Horner open to double points for last three race

2014 F1 season

Christian Horner, Red Bull, Yas Marina, 2013Red Bull team principal Christian Horner says extending the unpopular double points plan to three races instead of one could make it less of a lottery.

Asked whether the sport’s determination to introduce a rule which an overwhelming majority of fans oppose Horner said: “I think of course the fans’ opinions matter and I think that I don’t think it’s any secret that I wasn’t particularly in favour of it.”

“I can understand why the governing body and the promoter are keen to keep the championship alive until the last race but two out of the last four years it’s gone to the last race under the previous points scoring system.”

Bernie Ecclestone originally proposed to offer double points at the last three races of the year, after Sebastian Vettel on last year’s championship with three races to spare. Horner suggested that might be a better solution.

“It would probably be better to, rather than look at just the last race, if you’re going to end up dealing with the points, is look at more than one race. Look at three races, maybe take away an element of lottery over that last race.

“But it is what it is, it’s the same for everybody as we stand here and that’s what we’ve got.”

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52 comments on Horner open to double points for last three race

  1. Adam Gonda (@adames2x) said on 28th January 2014, 13:39

    sure because he believes the will have car perfectly developed to the end of a season… no double points at all OMG

  2. Joe (@theessence) said on 28th January 2014, 13:42

    double points for the last 19 races please

  3. Albrecht said on 28th January 2014, 13:45

    Did you guys even read it?

    He said that if we MUST hace double points, having them for the last three is better than only for the las one.

    He even said (again) he didn’t like the idea of double points.

    It’s always constructive to read the whole article before passing judgement.

  4. Patrick (@paeschli) said on 28th January 2014, 13:53

    Actually, the option ‘let’s give double points at every race’ is bad too. The difference in points between finishing first or second would be far too great.

    • Mads (@mads) said on 28th January 2014, 15:20

      @paeschli
      No it would be exactly the same, as all points are doubled for all positions.
      Say driver A wins the first two races, and driver B finishes 2nd in both races. Lets look at the gaps between them.

      Double points:
      A : 50+50=100
      B : 36+36=72
      100-72=28.

      Normal points:
      A : 25+25=50
      B : 18+18=36
      50-36=14.

      14*2 is 28, so the relative gap is the same.
      Both gaps could be closed (with respectively 2 and 1 points in change) with:
      A: DNF
      B: 3rd place.

  5. Imre (@f1mre) said on 28th January 2014, 14:02

    Double points for last twenty races!!!

  6. Cornflakes (@cornflakes) said on 28th January 2014, 14:12

    That just makes it worse!

  7. Maciek (@maciek) said on 28th January 2014, 14:17

    Christian Horner has been doing a lot of thinking

    I think of course the fans’ opinions matter and I think that I don’t think it’s any secret that I wasn’t particularly in favour of it.

    Too bad most it’s backwards.

    Look at three races, maybe take away an element of lottery over that last race

    See, we’ve just created a totally unnecessary problem, so if we spread it out three times as wide it’ll be thinner and seem less stupid, see?

    • Albrecht said on 28th January 2014, 14:31

      Which is a perfectly valid point. Three races with double points dilute a bit the lottery-effect of having just one.

      Ofc, it would be better to have none at all, but he’s saying this is the lesser of two evils. And it is.

  8. Bullfrog (@bullfrog) said on 28th January 2014, 14:29

    We should have double points for the first race. That’ll help Christian finish his car.

  9. Steven (@steevkay) said on 28th January 2014, 15:02

    As I’ve said before, you can make double points races if the races themselves are double length. I don’t want a double length Abu Dhabi run, though. The F1 600km of Montreal? Yes! The Monza 600? Definitely (it’s a short race anyway)!

    Otherwise, do away with all of this nonsense. You want to take the “lottery” part out of it, then remove it altogether and then we’ll be back to winning based on skill and strategy.

    • Mads (@mads) said on 28th January 2014, 15:22

      @steevkay
      I agree. But that is not why they are doing it. They are ONLY doing it to keep the championship battle going for longer, and a Monza 600 won’t help to achieve that.
      Although a double length Monza or Montreal would be quite brilliant.

  10. sidecar_jon said on 28th January 2014, 15:20

    how about double points for anyone not called Vettel…..

  11. Paulocreed (@paulocreed) said on 28th January 2014, 15:23

    I don’t think the double points is a good idea like many of the other F1Fanatics. But if this rule HAS to exist. then I think it should be implemented only if the Championship hasn’t been decided before the final round.

    I agree with @mads that it will screw up a team/driver depending on how the race goes. Whether a DNF or an incident in the race causing to lose positions. But ideally if it is a normal race then the top teams will still be at the top and the only difference will be that the points they receive are more than normal.
    Last year it would not have mattered if the double points existed or not, Vettel still would’ve won the championship. The only difference is Vettel would have 447 points instead of the 397 he has.

  12. maarten.f1 (@maarten-f1) said on 28th January 2014, 15:26

    Interesting. Question is, what would he want in return for supporting this?

  13. Racer (@racer) said on 28th January 2014, 18:39

    Why don’t we award double points at every race, then every round would be more important and the focus on every round would be increased.

  14. Horner really is Bernie’s whore.

  15. Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 28th January 2014, 22:27

    If double-points absolutely have to happen, then it is probably better that it happens in the last three races instead of just one. At the very least, it will prevent a situation from arising where a championship is settled on the back of a single result, and should one driver get a bad result in a double-points races, they will at least have the opportunity to try again in the next.