‘If you drive like last year you won’t finish’ – Vettel

2014 F1 season

Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, Jerez, 2014Sebastian Vettel says drivers will have to be more conservative at the wheel of the new generation of cars.

“There?s a lot of things that potentially will change,” said Vettel after the launch of the Red Bull RB10.

“How big the changes will be, we can?t say at this stage. Whether it favours myself or another driver in particular, just because of the way they drive, it?s very tricky to know at this stage.”

With drivers limited to 100kg of fuel per race, fuel conservation is expected to play a greater role, especially at tracks where consumption is high.

“For sure, there will be new elements of driving skill, different skills that you?ll have to get on top of and adapt,” said Vettel. “If you drive it the same you drove it last year in the race, for example, you won?t see the chequered flag.”

Red Bull had a slow start to the first day of testing. Vettel completed just three laps after the team made a “mistake” while preparing the car on Monday.

“Obviously, previously with the new cars that we?ve launched here in Jerez, in the end, it was just the same toys under the cover, just probably laid out differently or way or set up in a different way,” Vettel explained.

“Whereas this year, there are a lot of new things. As you can see, there?s very little running so far. So everyone is struggling. It?s a massive challenge to get all your parts lined up ready to roll out of the garage first of all.”

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50 comments on ‘If you drive like last year you won’t finish’ – Vettel

  1. BasCB (@bascb) said on 29th January 2014, 12:46

    Hm, I call ******** there Seb. From what Renault itself has mentioned before the season (and it fits with information from Mercedes from last years), a race like Melbourne is one of the more fuel heavy tracks, so yes, it will be tight, just like it was on the edge for some last year. At the same time, Monza is not expected to be any problem at all (nor is Monaco), just like some other tracks.

    Sure, its a different approach – finetuning how to use the turbo, and the different parts of the hybrid package and battery to get there as fast as possible – but how is that different from before?

    • drmouse (@drmouse) said on 29th January 2014, 13:33

      I may be wrong, but I read it differently. He did not appear to be saying that, if you drive like last year, you will run out of fuel, but that the cars behave so differently this year that you must drive them in a very different way.

    • ME4ME (@me4me) said on 29th January 2014, 13:36

      Very different, and quite obvious isnt it? Last year, it was maximing throttle for maximum exhaust gases. This year it’s conservative on throttle trying to safe fuel. And that is just generally speaking. Im sure, in detail, there are even more differences.

      • petebaldwin (@petebaldwin) said on 29th January 2014, 14:20

        The tyres are going to be more durable this year also which means that you can be more aggressive with the wheel and under breaking. Last year you had to be very careful to ensure your tyres lasted 10 laps. In effect, you may have to coast into corners to save fuel but once you’re there, you can chuck it in because the tyres should last longer.

        The style of driving will be very different so it’ll be interesting to see how the drivers stack up now. It won’t be the same order as last year.

    • Juzh (@juzh) said on 29th January 2014, 13:38

      @bascb
      what ********?? He is 100% correct. if you drive flat out like they did last year (at least in fuel department), you wont finish this year. simple as that. Fuel savings will be critical at some tracks.

      • BasCB (@bascb) said on 30th January 2014, 7:24

        Have a good look at last years races and show me a single one where the guys on the podium were able to push all race and I will wholeheartedly apologize for giving a wrong statement @juzh.

        I am convinced you would find no such race, because teams know fully well that it saves overall race time when they under-fuel (at most races they had far less than a full fuel tank), and they always count on being able to do part of the race at less than full pace. Off course last year another reason for having to slow down was the tyres, something that should be less extreme this year (with Pirelli planning the tyres to be more durable).
        Yes, fuel saving will now be limited more, but on the other hand, teams will have far more variables to play with so it won’t be all that much of a difference altogether. And at some tracks most engine manufacturers have already mentioned that the total fuel used should be easily enough even now (Monza and Monaco were specifically named).

    • Prof Kirk (@prof-kirk) said on 30th January 2014, 1:20

      Yeah, the Four time world champ doesn’t know what he’s talking about

  2. Funkyf1 (@funkyf1) said on 29th January 2014, 12:49

    Is DR scheduled for days 3 & 4? If so, Seb better get some miles in his new “toy” this afternoon

  3. Latvian (@latvian) said on 29th January 2014, 13:16

    I just hope that in qualifying there will be no saving. I realize that black smoke coming out from exhaust pipes, like in previous turbo-era, is too much to hope for. Aggressive power slide driving is what i really want to see. At least hope to see…

    Otherwise it is too much saving in modern F1.

    • Baron (@baron) said on 29th January 2014, 13:38

      Well, we’re all doing our bit saving the planet aren’t we?

      F1 drivers will have to be careful & canny whilst racing to the flag, and that is why I personally like the new tech. The V8’s were the engines that were boring and obsolete; turbo with gadgets is definitely the way forward.

      • Latvian (@latvian) said on 29th January 2014, 14:07

        I’m not believer in Al Gore propaganda. There is no proof, just speculation, that exhaust gases are changing planets climate. One big volcanic eruption make more gases than hundred years of human activity.

        • Albrecht said on 29th January 2014, 14:19

          @latvian

          Sadly, this is not one of those things that stop existing just because you don’t believe in them.

        • Lancer033 (@lancer033) said on 29th January 2014, 14:40

          you both realize the the race fuel is only a small fraction of what F1 teams use during the year flying around the globe right?

          • eljueta said on 29th January 2014, 15:21

            Thank you. It’s ridiculous for a racing car to save fuel. It’s not racing. And from a green standpoint, it makes absolutely zero difference that a F1 car has less emissions.

          • Diego (@ironcito) said on 29th January 2014, 17:46

            Yes, but the point is that the teams will develop ways to improve efficiency, and those developments will eventually make its way to road cars, thus saving millions of times more. That’s part of the reason for the regulation changes.

          • Lancer033 (@lancer033) said on 30th January 2014, 6:15

            for the record, if i had my way, they would free up the engines even more and let the teams get creative instead of just naming a specific solution and letting the teams develop that. What would they come up with if the only limit was X amount of fuel per race.

            The one rule I would like to see added would be to make them use locally available commercial fuel. I.E. the same type of gas that available at the pump in whatever country the race is in.

        • Mach1 said on 29th January 2014, 15:19

          As with everthing, there is always an alternative viewpoint….Where did you get your data from?

          ” Our studies show that globally, volcanoes on land and under the sea release a total of about 200 million tonnes of CO2 annually.

          This seems like a huge amount of CO2, but a visit to the U.S. Department of Energy’s Carbon Dioxide Information Analysis Center (CDIAC) website (http://cdiac.ornl.gov/) helps anyone armed with a handheld calculator and a high school chemistry text put the volcanic CO2 tally into perspective. Because while 200 million tonnes of CO2 is large, the global fossil fuel CO2 emissions for 2003 tipped the scales at 26.8 billion tonnes. Thus, not only does volcanic CO2 not dwarf that of human activity, it actually comprises less than 1 percent of that value.”

        • matt90 (@matt90) said on 29th January 2014, 16:42

          No proof, besides all that proof that they have.

          • pxcmerc (@pcxmerc) said on 30th January 2014, 20:12

            I would like to see their proof of global cooling, I have seen their proof for global warming, not really convinced on that one, seems they have it nailed by stating the climate changes, that one’s probably the hardest to deny :)

        • Victor. (@victor) said on 29th January 2014, 19:07

          Just shut up.

    • The issue is not so much fuel saving with the new engines but maximising what you can extract from a set amount. It’s all about thermal efficiency and recouping lost energy, which is heavily influential for road cars – a ludicrous amount of the energy in fuel is wasted as spent heat, so any contributions towards reducing that are welcome.

    • Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 30th January 2014, 4:15

      @latvian

      Aggressive power slide driving is what i really want to see.

      You won’t.

      For one, it is inefficient. All that sideways movement only slows drivers down. Rally drivers might slide, but only on low-grip surfaces like gravel and mud where their momentum won’t be interrupted by a surface like tarmac, which had far more grip.

      And secondly, it will butcher even the most durable of tyres. Sliding of any kind puts stress on the construction of the tyre, stress that the tyres were never meant to endure. If a driver slips up and is forced to correct his steering resulting in a power-slide every now and then, it should be okay. But if he is doing it deliberately, the tyres won’t last two laps.

  4. OmarR-Pepper (@omarr-pepper) said on 29th January 2014, 13:35

    So, if we thought races were boring because itsimpossible to see drivers going flat-out, now there will be some races which will be at Safety Car speed… just to reach the finish line. Wow, that will really be the pinacle of racing. (#:( )

  5. Patrick (@paeschli) said on 29th January 2014, 14:44

    Vettel completed 11 laps in two days, amazing …

  6. kpcart said on 29th January 2014, 14:55

    If Vettel is correct, he along with Alonso and Button are championship favourites, and Hamilton has no chance.

    • Guccio (@concalvez00) said on 29th January 2014, 15:09

      Keep on dreaming, Button NEVER will become WDC again, Vettel without his rear down force is nothing! and Alonslow without his No1 status can’t do anything. It’s all about Raikonen and Hamilton!.

      • eljueta said on 29th January 2014, 15:27

        good to see such founded and well backed statements here.

        • Guccio (@concalvez00) said on 29th January 2014, 15:47

          Well, it’s known that Alonso without his No1 status is nothing special, hence 2004 and 2007 and if he is really good why does he need No1 status in the first place ?.

          • Kingshark (@kingshark) said on 29th January 2014, 16:40

            @concalvez00
            Yeah, Alonso had a #2 driver driving alongside him in the past four years (2010-2013). Only this “#2″ beat Raikkonen.

          • @kingshark that isn’t exactly the most valid of counter-arguments (pre versus post accident) but otherwise I agree – calling up Alonso on his lack of ability on the basis of two seasons is slightly ludicrous. He may be one to lose his cool absolutely, but it doesn’t adversely affect his driving – he is undeniably sound in that department.

          • Breno (@austus) said on 29th January 2014, 18:03

            He doesnt need it. Massa is so usually so far behind that point becomes moot.

      • Beto (@chebeto) said on 29th January 2014, 16:15

        I also think it’s gonna be between Mercedes and Ferrari, but I think it could also be Alonso or Rosberg. The driver who gets the hang of better in the first races and is lucky no to break down much is gonna be driver number one. Atm it is hard to say which one, imo.

      • iAltair (@ialtair) said on 29th January 2014, 16:37

        Vettel with no rear downforce is nothing?

        Let’s see.

      • JamieFranklinF1 (@jamiefranklinf1) said on 29th January 2014, 18:01

        I don’t understand where your opinions are founded upon, and could go on about how Jenson is a multiple race winner, how Seb won races and Championships before exhaust blown diffusers took full effect, and how Alonso is one of the most intelligent racers on the grid…or I could just let the three of them show you themselves.

        • Agree, he’s obviously not seen any of 2011 where Button was the best driver not in a Red Bull and not named Sebastian! Every driver has their fanboys and their haterzz. I like an array of drivers and teams. Mostly from their determination and behaviour (sportsmanship counts big here). I like Hammy’s raw pace, Alonso’s starting and racecraft, Bottas’ potential, and Massa’s spirit (when it is not being crushed) but my favourites guys are tough but ultimately fair in wheel to wheel racing: Kimi and Jenson are two of the best at it IMHO.

  7. Maciek (@maciek) said on 29th January 2014, 15:31

    Absolutely everything coming out of RedBull is negative so far – fearless prediction: they falter this year.

    • aka_robyn said on 29th January 2014, 17:25

      Definitely a bold prediction based on two days of testing!

      • True, but the law of averages says you can’t win ‘em all, right? We can dream that it won’t be another walk to the WDC for anyone, and a big rule shake-up usually doesn’t favour the front runners, as they have the most to lose. RBR have had an incredible run and hats off to them, but it was aided in no small part by exhaust blowing (keeping your foot in hard during cornering) which simply won’t work this year. I’m hopeful and early indications point to Merc powered cars will be class of the field, but who knows. It is encouraging that aero may count for a lot less this year than good driving and reliability… But some people will still find excuses to moan about how F1 is dead. :)

    • Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 30th January 2014, 4:23

      @maciek – When you sound out the name of the chassis, the “Red Bull RB10″ becomes “Red Bull are beaten”.

  8. iAltair (@ialtair) said on 29th January 2014, 16:37

    Despite all the hoo and haa, I still see Red Bull and Vettel coming on top and could very well be his 5th title.

  9. Mach1 (@mach1) said on 29th January 2014, 17:56

    Bensons BBC blog headline annoyed me. “Vettel Struggleing with new car”. I hate it when headlines contain complete mis-information. He has hardly been able to drive it yet, how do we know he is struggling…..
    The team “may” be struggling to get the car set-up but you can hardly say Vettel is….

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