Adrian Sutil, Sauber, Albert Park, 2014

Fans will ‘get used to sound of new engines’ – teams

2014 Australian Grand PrixPosted on | Author Keith Collantine

Adrian Sutil, Sauber, Albert Park, 2014F1 team principals believe fans will quickly adjust to the sound of the new Formula One engines.

The first practice sessions featuring the new V6 turbo engines received mixed responses from fans at the track in Melbourne about how the sound of Formula One has changed.

However team principals hold the view that the new sound will gain acceptance.

“Personally I like the sound of the engines,” said Williams deputy team principal Claire Williams.

“But then I love Formula One and I love watching car go round a race track. I think people pretty quickly get used to what Formula One engine sound like. We’ve had so many changes over so many decades of motor racing and you very quickly forget what a previous engine sounds like.”

“I think people just want to see a good race on Sunday and I thin as long as we can deliver that then I think that any issues or contentious conversations around that may fade away.”

Ferrari team principal Stefano Domenicali agreed with the views put forward by Williams and Mercedes’ motorsport chief Toto Wolff.

Wolff said: “If you like sound of engines let’s go back to V10 and V12s, let’s not do any hybrid. This is a modern technology, this is how road cars go, downsizing is the motto and I think we just accept that the formula has changed.”

“These cars are going to go quicker in a couple of races than the old ones. You’re going to get used to the sounds and I promise next year around you will not notice and not remember any difference any more.”

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  1. Fair enough, they just need to be careful the new sound people get used to isn’t the sound made by engines in other racing championships.

    All joking aside, I’ll reserve judgement on these new engines until after the race, but what I’ve heard so far doesn’t really impress me. Having watched a few F1 races of previous years over the winter, though, the sound of F1 has always been subject to change – so nothing new in that regard. I’m sure people watching F1 will indeed get used to it.

    1. I agree the F1 sound has always changed marginally from year to year, but it has always been an unmistakably F1 sound. This year however after being trackside on the weekend, I would argue these things sound exactly nothing like an F1 car.

      Could not be more disappointed and I disagree, I will not get used to it. Having been a big F1 fan for many years I would not waste my money attending an event with exactly zero atmosphere. I’d rather watch on tv and see the event in detail.

  2. Watched the FP2 this morning. It sounded like a superbike race to me.
    And that’s NOT a compliment.

  3. There is something which it’s not right. I don’t mind the turbo sound, i like it very much, but the one from the 80’s. The sound of the new engines is quite good, i won’t miss the high pitch, but it’s not loud (the roar is missing) and that’s not acceptable.

    McLaren MP4/4
    Turbo 2014

  4. I was at some of the tests this year and was totally underwhelmed by the new sound levels :( . Although not so straight forward, there is away sound levels could be increased – The predominant reason the new engines are much quieter is because there is a single exhaust pipe with the Turbo “fan” in the middle of it being powered by the exhaust gasses before they are chucked out the back. The engine part of the Power Unit is still a “V” configuration – it would be possible with some engineering tweaks to revert back to a twin exhaust configuration with one of them powering the turbo and the other a straight through “non-turbo turning” pipe straight out the back above the other exhaust pipe – then increase the revs a little and you won’t be far off the db’s of last years cars.

    1. I have never heard of a worse suggestion. Firstly, that would be a woefully inefficient way to configure an engine, seconds it would but the engine way out of balance and cause running problems. Thirdly, you’d be losing half of the energy you’re putting into the turbocharger in order to generate more noise.

      Noise – energy being wasted. The energy which used to make a load of noise around the track is now being recycled into the turborcharchers and makes the cars faster.

      No engineer in the world would ever want to compromise efficiency in such a pointless pursuit of noise. Nothing is broken here – you have a very vocal minority making a big noise (arf) about how they don’t like the change, whereas the majority of educated people understand the reason for change and actually enjoy the new sound.

      1. Unbalanced assumes you have assumed that you have one one bank of the “V” for the turbo and one for noise……. there’s nothing tosay you couldn’t have rear two cylinders (one each side ) exhausted into a “turbo’d exhaust and the other front 4…… 2 each side into 2nd exhaust with no turbo in it….. Sort the firing order out correctly and it would still be balanced and I reckon the two turning the turbo could still generate enough energy to spin the turbo up enough to create enough boost to achieve parity with what they have now – the boost they are creating now is minuscule to Keke Rosbergs (still) Silverstone lap record setting 1500bhp Williams-Honda from 1985 (160mph average) – they have plenty in reserve if they want it so could use it if they so wished to compensate for a small amount that would be lost to “sound” energŷ as you put it – I know which I would prefer…. Not sure how you get to the reckoning that it is a minority who are against the quiter cars – what information are you basing those figures on ? I would like to analyse them and the source 95% of those I spoke to over 4 days @ winter testing said they thought the cars are now too quiet.

        Here’s 2 tweets from Martin Brundle just today……. Gotta say I agree with him.

        @MBrundleF1: I like the sound of the new engines there just not enough of it, turbos strangle it. ‘Noses’ and ‘noise’ on the to-do list for 2015 please.

        @MBrundleF1: People don’t always know what they want but do know what they like,e.g the iPad. And fans don’t like the sound of F1 2014, we need to fix it

  5. Not that I have been to an F1 race recently but the thing that always struck me when I was attending was the immense sound that the cars made. Was like nothing else I have ever witnessed and something that I 100% associated with F1.

    I was watching P2 on TV this morning and the cars sound awful on TV and on-board cameras, very quiet and uninspiring and I cant stand the way the engines do not rev at all. You could now easily confuse the sound they let off with any other lesser formula. Has totally taken something away from F1 that I have come to love over the years. Disappointed to say the least.

  6. Harley Davidson trademarked their “noise” in 1994. If only F1 recognised the value of a distinctive – and much loved – sound.

  7. Wolf should listen to his own teams before he speaks of fans getting used to the sound. Lewis himself said he did not like the sound of the V6s.

  8. Was at Albert Park this morning for most of FP1 & 2, at close range (trackside) they sound ok and its quite interesting to actually be able to tyre squeal on lock-ups etc. However, its just lacks that sense of enormous power that the noise of the V8’s gave off. From a further distance wandering around the circuit they sound mightily unimpressive, reminded me of lawnmowers, my wife said they sounded like trucks…

  9. I think it is horrible. FIA did not develop F1 they are killing it. Come on guys. The top class in motorsports driving a 1.6 litre V6 which sounds like a sewing machine on wheels, or a vacuum cleaner. It is realy a shame. I even do not want to talk about some rule chanches. I am watching F1 since I 37 years and for me sound is very important. Thank god I was able to hear the fantastic V12 machines. This hear is not F1, thats F-0.1. Next year they are going to race with electric cars or what?

  10. I didn’t like the sound of the new engines very much. However halfway through the second practice session I stopped noticing and got on with what I do every race weekend. One eye on the TV and the other on live timing. So in other words, I don’t like it but it didn’t send me screaming to the other side of the continent.

  11. Mike Zwolsman
    14th March 2014, 19:20

    On TV you can’t even talk about sound, because you don’t hear it. When turn up the volume, I hear sound, but want to kill the commentator. For now , it is very boring. I’m glad that I not paid for this season, it is a waste of money. If you want to know, take a race from last year and put your finger in your ears, pffff

  12. Part of the problem for me, and this actually started with about a quarter of last season to go, is that the BBC has literally made it so we cannot hear any on track activity at all (by lowering the FOM feed volume).

  13. The 2014 cars sound terrible. It is a calamity if we lose the sound of F1. To those that don’t like the high-pitched harmonics produced by an engine revving at maximum RPMs – I would hazard a guess that you are in the extreme minority and not the majority.

  14. By the way, I would also suggest that there is a danger of our losing some of the unique character that has defined the sport, and that unquestionably includes the sound of an F1 engine between 12-18rpm. I doubt that most of the people who attend the race would prefer a non-engaging subdued and monotonous lawnmower or leaf-blower sound, even if the more sensitive of hearing need to wear ear plugs. I say, Bravo VJ for speaking you mind, and I agree with you whole-heartedly. LETS BRING BACK THE REAL SOUND OF F1!

  15. You could feel the V8’s & V10’s as well and moved the hairs on the back of your neck. And made you skin tingle especially if you were sat at the back of the Woodcote Grandstand …… it was an assault on all of your senses :). ….. This generation of cars don’t do that.

    1. Excuse they typo’s….. Flippin iPads lol

  16. I love F1 for the racing and I doubt that the new family friendly exhausts will detract too much from the TV broadcasts, but the reason I attend GPs in person is for the ear shattering, mind numbing, sensory overload that is an F1 engine on song. Sadly, I will not be attending any further GPs while this poor excuse for the pinnacle of motorsport is allowed to persist – bring back the atmosphere that a GP should be.

  17. From a fan watching at home the noise seems ok. But as a fan at the track the noise and vibration is very important. At a race it likely that you only see the cars for a few seconds a lap and will miss much of the racing, unlike at home with all the TV cameras. So as a paying trackside fan the noise & feeling F1 generates makes me spend my money. The good racing is best viewed at home with the aid of media.

  18. In the news next day: F1 team principals believe fans will quickly adjust to the Toyota Prius as the new Formula One standardized car.

  19. Today is my third day at the Aus GP. Both the Porsche Carrera Cup Cars and V8 Touring Cars are MUCH louder than the new F1 cars. When the F1 cars pull out of pit lane they sound like a hedge trimmer and down the straight they almost sound like MotoGP bikes. Hugely disappointed!

  20. Disappointed
    15th March 2014, 11:12

    Unfortunately F1 has had its testicles removed. These cars are not thrilling to watch in person. The sound of previous years cars was astounding – you could FEEL them coming past, and hear them from kilometers away. The whole experience has lost an important dimension, like others have said, the sound is no longer special. The carrera cup cars were more thrilling today. I’m concerned that next year’s cars will be run on ethically sourced fair trade vegan custard. Tomorrow, after I watch the two seater Minardi and the speed comparison with last year’s car, I am going to set fire to myself and run onto the track in protest… 

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