Daniel Ricciardo, Red Bull, Sepang International Circuit, 2014

Ricciardo gets ten-place grid drop

2014 Malaysian Grand PrixPosted on | Author Keith Collantine

Daniel Ricciardo, Red Bull, Sepang International Circuit, 2014Daniel Ricciardo will be moved back ten places on the grid for the Bahrain Grand Prix.

The team were given the penalty after Ricciardo was released from his pit box with the front-left wheel not attached properly.

Ricciardo was also given a ten second stop and go penalty during the race, which he did not finish.

Red Bull were also handed a reprimand by the stewards as a member of their team did not wear protective headgear during Ricciardo’s stop.

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159 comments on “Ricciardo gets ten-place grid drop”

  1. Can only “assume” that the grid drop is for a team member in pitlane without a helmet (bonce hat) on, Stella recovery from testing though, and how good was RIC at the start!!!!!!! Awesome. Move over fellas I’m coming through!

  2. front left wasn’t fit properly, he was released, i can agree, that’s a potential danger to others in the pitlane. but Ricciardo realized the situation immediately, and stopped the car to avoid the tyre getting loose. i believe he has done more than you can expect from an average driver in this situation, he was nowhere near making a mistake, and still he is the one getting penalized, even twice… i still believe that a lollypop man should be there with eyes wide open, and i believe that the team should be penalized for things like this, but penalities shouldn’t compromise even two weekends of a driver that has done nothing.

    1. F1 is a team sport. Therefore the Team, which includes the driver gets punished. In fact every punishment even when directed to the driver alone will impact the team. It seems harsh but so is killing someone with an unsafe release. The lesson to be learned here is the pit crew needs to check their work before giving the thumbs up to let the driver go.

  3. The double penalty thing for unsafe release is now part of the sporting regs, not a special case. It came in after Webber’s wheel injured a cameraman in pit lane last year. The 10 place grid drop is mandatory. If the car is able to continue after the unsafe release, a penalty is also applied during the race.

    Sporting reg 23.12 (c)

  4. Red Bull Racing + Australian driver = Worst luck in the universe.

  5. Did he serve his 10 second stop-go penalty? Or did he retire beforehand?
    I think maybe they retired the car instead, and therefore didn’t serve the penalty, go it gets converted into a ten place grid penalty at the next race.

    In which case, sheer incompetence from Red Bull.

    1. Good point there .

    2. Repeat my post from the comment page 1, he served the penalty before the retire.
      First three for tyres, 4th for nose change and 5th for the penalty.

  6. He never did the 10 sec stop/go.

  7. Hugely unfortunate, but the FIA had previously said that this was how they were going to deal with unsafe releases, so it looks like the Webber legacy lives on…

  8. The penalties have all seemed a bit harsh to me so far – seemingly any contact in the last race was resulting in penalties.

    Now as this is still breaking, it isn’t exactly clear why the 10 place grid drop is being applied. The unsafe release was penalised in the race – his race being effectively over should have no bearing on that. It would be very disappointing if they have ruled in this way.

    I suspect it might be for being pushed backwards up pit lane during the race as opposed to the unsafe release itself. I’m ignorant of the rules in this circumstance though, but I think they take a dim view of pushing cars around the pit lane during practice let alone during a race. However, I do struggle to see what else could have been done to avoid this once that situation occurred. He could hardly continue down the lane with a heavy tyre ready to go AWOL. Stopping and exiting the car there and then leaves the pit lane effectively blocked, which would shut pit lane and required a safety car given how quickly the tyres burn off. Maybe they do expect the latter?

  9. It may seem harsh but these are the rules that were agreed.

    Iirc the teams asked for the grid drop penalty for an unsafe release.

    Unsafe releases are dangerous and there has to be huge deterants to stop them.

    1. Unsafe releases are dangerous and there has to be huge deterants to stop them.

      I have to agree with you we don’t want to see another person hit with a tyre in the pit

  10. Bed Bull remain under investigation by the stewards as a …”
    All Bed Bulls must be investigated :)

  11. Good news for Ferrari, Red Bull this race were just copying Alonso’s strategy on Ricciardo’s car, i know Alonso didn’t have the pace to bother Vettel but they were playing safe

  12. These are the new rules. Harsh, yes, but rightly so. We’ve seen too many unsafe releases in the last few years, some of which came very close to tragedy.

  13. FIA slaps punishment on a team for an unsafe release since it endangers the people in the pitlane (Germany 2013 – Webber/RBR) but I don’t understand the reason to punish teams in terms of results. Inflicting big monetary penalties serves the purpose. Why hamper a driver’s potential result when he is not even to blame? Also unsafe release are a cause of ‘human error’ and you can’t completely eliminate human error.

    Secondly it seems very harsh to inflict 2nd penalty on a driver/team once handed out. The logic behind a penalty is to ensure that the driver/team loose the result they would’ve otherwise got. In this case as Dan retired, the damage was done and it serves the purpose of the FIA. In the past, drivers are handed out penalties and when they retire, the penalty ceases. However not here.

    Lastly, it’s just a personal opinion/speculation but I feel that FIA is really acting very harsh RBR since the ‘Fuel-gate’ saga. The penalty is just too harsh.

    1. and common, Button had the same situation last year at the same race and wasn’t given a penalty. Even if according to FIA the penalty is for team personnel not wearing helmets then why punish the driver?

      1. i don’t like these statements “why punish the driver and not just the team”
        drivers are part of the team, and if yoiu ask me they should be treated equally

        1. For eg. when a driver exceeds pit lane speed limit, it’s the driver who gets fined and not the team.

          1. Its the teams who pay the fines for pit speeding, Not the drivers:

  14. Penalties should only be awarded once – and if it’s not taken before…retirement, then ignore it.

    At least that’s my opinion….

  15. What a disastrous weekend.

  16. Okay, so the stewards disqualify him in Australia, they give him a stop and go in Malaysia and they give him a ten spot penalty for the next race … isn’t that a bit, just a little bit too harsh given the fact that Ricciardo hasn’t done anything wrong himself?

    1. @paeschli is that a record of somekind… just trying to find some solace for the poor kid

    2. Very harsh. And when Magnussen crashes into somebody and destroys their race, he only gets 5 seconds added onto his time.

    3. @paeschli It’s rather unlucky but it’s all according to the rules. It’s on safety reasons.
      @strontium Destroying someone’s race is not as bad a hurting or killing someone. This rule is based on safety. If Magnussen’s move would have hurt Raikkonen or put his life in danger he would have had a harsher penalty, i.e. Grosjean Spa 2012.

  17. The next race is China!

    1. In 7 days, this statement will be correct.

  18. Poor kid can’t seem to catch a break…

  19. Initially I thought this was too harsh, but in time this kind of a penalty will make the teams adapt to it, that’s all. If they have to wait 0.2secs longer in the pits to make sure all 4 tyres are on properly then that’s what they have to do.

    The rule is in the sporting regs, so the teams must play by the rules and adapt accordingly. Shame for Ric but he has been let down by his team, not the FIA here.

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