FIA accepts Haas team entry, considers Forza Rossa

2015 F1 season

Marcus Ericsson, Caterham, Sepang, 2014The FIA has accepted an entry from Haas Formula to participate in the 2015 F1 season – and is considering an application from a second team.

The new team run by NASCAR team owner Gene Haas was given the go-ahead to compete next year following a meeting of the World Motor Sport Council in Morocco.

A statement from the FIA added they “are in the process of conducting further investigations for Forza Rossa”. It described the applications which were submitted were “of a high standard” and said the decision had been taken in “close consultation” with Bernie Ecclestone.

If both teams were to appear on the grid in time for next season Formula One would have a full 26-car field for the first time in 20 years. However the last American team which tried to enter the sport, US F1, collapsed before the first race of the season in 2010.

This was also the last year any new teams entered Formula One: Lotus, Virgin and HRT. The latter collapsed at the end of 2012 and the other two have since changed names to Caterham and Marussia respectively.

The FIA added a meeting on the subject of cost reduction has been scheduled for May 1st to involve all the Formula One teams plus Jean Todt and Ecclestone. It will be followed by a meeting of the F1 Strategy Group.

In a further development, the WMSC said “preliminary results” are expected shortly on the possibility of altering the noise of the 2014 specification engines.

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112 comments on FIA accepts Haas team entry, considers Forza Rossa

  1. hunocsi (@hunocsi) said on 11th April 2014, 20:31

    Why are they rushing it for next year? Why can’t the new teams just be patient and try to join in 2016? They’ll have a much worse time this way.

  2. trotter said on 11th April 2014, 20:52

    All great new, but leave the sound alone. It’s really not why I watch F1. It’s cool when it’s loud, but if anything is going to be changed regarding the performance, they shouldn’t touch it. Unless they are gonna put a microphone near the exhaust and play it on the sound system around the track, I’m not sure I wanna see any change to the sound.

    • HoHum (@hohum) said on 11th April 2014, 21:25

      Totally agree.

    • All they can really do to increase the sound level is allow the engines to rev higher. Which means they will logically have to increase the maximum fuel flow rate. Which may in turn have to lead to an increase in the amount of fuel allowed for a race distance to remove any glaring disparities in performance between phases of the race. Which flies in the face of the purpose of these regulations being introduced in the first place. Back to square one.

      Leave them alone, they sound fine.

      P.S. – I enjoy being able to hear more varied sounds than constant engine whaling from a V8 – such as tyre squeals and fans cheering. It contributes to the overall atmosphere of an event. And the fact the new power units are evidently more powerful than their predecessors can only be a good thing.

      • OOliver said on 12th April 2014, 10:46

        Are you watching at home or at the race track, because your experience will be different depending on where you watch from.
        If you are at the race track, you don’t get to see the cars as frequently as those watching on TV, and now you may not even hear them racing in the distance.
        It wasn’t just the volume of the old engines that enthralled, it was also the richness of the notes. At a time when ticket prices are at a record high, it will be the race venues that suffer poor ticket sales, and not the TV broadcasters.
        The broadcasters can liven up the experience for us at home, but there is nothing you can do for those at the race venue.

    • kpcart said on 12th April 2014, 3:40

      Nope, they sound crap. To avid fans, yes they are acceptable, as we focus on every detail in the sport, but to the lay sports fan warching not every race and going to a race now and then, there is a precedent of 20 years of high revving and high volume sound, it was an experience that is gone now. Now its like watching a lower tier formula. i suspect they will change the fuel flow rules, so they can rev out to the rev limit, this will make them sound racier and louder. Some people defend the current sound, but i bet if they had a choice of the current sound, or something louder and higher revving they would not choose todays sound. Gp2 and indycar sound better. The v8 supercars were louder in melbourne… Touring cars outdoing f1 good grief! They sound like motorcycles from onboard.

  3. Bullfrog (@bullfrog) said on 11th April 2014, 21:00

    Who’s behind Forza Rossa? It’s not a great name – we’ve already got Force India and Toro Rosso. Any chance of an Italian driver? (I know, that’s a ridiculous idea…)

  4. ME4ME (@me4me) said on 11th April 2014, 21:03

    An American team is exactly what F1 needs. I very much hope they’ll make it and can join the midfield right from the start (wishfull thinking, i know..)

  5. Uzair Syed (@ultimateuzair) said on 11th April 2014, 21:11

    Yay we have 24 cars again!!! :D

  6. Ciaran (@ciaran) said on 11th April 2014, 22:43

    Great news, more teams on the grid means more chances for young drivers to actually get a shot at F1. Alexander Rossi and Conor Daly would be examples if Haas wanted to push for an all-American style team.
    I’ve never heard a thing about Forza Rossa before though, does anyone know anything about them?

  7. Paul (@frankjaeger) said on 11th April 2014, 23:09

    Psyched for a new team, welcome Haas!

  8. GT Racer (@gt-racer) said on 12th April 2014, 3:08

    Just a point regarding Dallara who took a beating in 2010 for how bad the HRT was.

    That car would have been a lot better had Dallara not stopped developing it when Campos defaulted on payments. When the team was brought & renamed HRT the car design/development hadn’t been touched for about 4 months & the only built car available was overweight, A 2nd chassis was rushed for Bahrain & while lighter was still overweight.

    Then Dallara split with HRT & Dallara had zero input on the development of that car although they did finish fabrication on 2 new chassis which were much lighter & did continue to supply parts until new suppliers were found.
    Bruno then binned one of the lighter chassis at the Spanish Gp so had to run the rest of the year with chassis #1 which was a big disadvantage for him over the 2nd car.

    Providing Haas honor the payments which will allow Dallara to develop the car through to completion & beyond then the car should be a decent package.

    I’d also guess that the chassis will be built at Dallara’s new Indianapolis factory which I believe also has a brand new state of the art windtunnel.

    Engines are expected to come from Ferrari, But I wouldn’t be surprised to see him switch to a Ford badged Cosworth.
    Cosworth have designed & developed a V6 Turbo, But they don’t want to put it into full production without a team to partner up with.

  9. Joe Amber said on 12th April 2014, 5:44

    This is great news. Ferrari has another back-marker they can beat next year.

  10. Lancer033 (@lancer033) said on 12th April 2014, 9:35

    Speaking as an American, please don’t judge us based on USF1.

    I don’t think that it’s really fair to compare Haas to USF1. USF1 was run by idiots that made huge mistakes. Haas knows how to run a team and win races, he’s just got to take it to the next level. It’ll take time and be a slow process, but i think he’s capable of doing it. Being in the US is a bit of a disadvantage, but I think you could minimize that by having a US headquarters and a satellite office in England. I’d consider it a win if they can build a car and qualify to start most of the races next year and move on from there. Hell, when you look at the full history, it took the team currently known as Red Bull 17 or 18 years to start winning races.

  11. Tayyib said on 12th April 2014, 10:40

    Very good news for F1. Lets hope there are no issues from now till next year and lets hope they are at least on the pace. Good for the sport, isn’t this why the regs changed. Honda are coming in as are a new team. Good luck to them

  12. OOliver said on 12th April 2014, 10:57

    There was no way Dallara could have developed a very competitive car based on how much they were going to be paid. If they were going to sell the cars to perhaps 3 or more teams, then they could have done even more aerodynamic investigations. But with just HRT as a customer, Dallara was just going to provide a functional design with a basic aerodynamic profile.

  13. Shimks (@shimks) said on 12th April 2014, 13:15

    Very exciting news. The new rules have breathed new life into F1. All they need now is cost caps and to get rid of DRS and double points.

  14. Nick (@npf1) said on 12th April 2014, 14:35

    Forza Rossa sounds like a merger of Toro Rosso and Force India, which leads me to think about what would happen if Caterham and Marussia would merge; Catrussia or Marterham?

    You could go on; Sauliams, Wilber..

  15. Sauber (@mumito) said on 12th April 2014, 16:18

    I’m glad when NON-british teams enter the F1.

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