‘I wish you could see Rosberg’s data’ – Hamilton

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Nico Rosberg, Mercedes, Monte-Carlo, 2014In the round-up: Lewis Hamilton raises suspicions over Nico Rosberg’s driving at Mirabeau when he went off the track during qualifying at Monaco.


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Lewis Hamilton and Nico Rosberg relationship hits new low in Monaco (The Guardian)

“I wish you could have seen the data. I saw something late on last night and all I could do was smile.”

Hamilton-Rosberg feud began before Monaco (The Telegraph)

Toto Wolff on Hamilton and Rosberg using powerful engine settings when they are not permitted to: “It’s never going to happen again. I think they are probably exploring how far you can step above the line and what the consequences are. But isn’t that normal?”

Rosberg keen to avoid Prost/Senna end (ESPN)

“He said in the press conference that it’s been turned around, saying that he thinks he has the most passion, or whatever, from his childhood. He didn’t talk so much about me he just was mentioning himself and that’s what he said in the press conference.”

Flavio Briatore backs Azerbaijan Grand Prix in Baku as an ‘F1 kind of place’ (The Independent)

“I have a lot of friends there (in Baku), have had for many, many years, and we hope it happens in 2015.”

Ecclestone rules out French GP return (Autosport)

“They are knocking on the door, but I don’t think we can do that.”

Pirelli F1 tyres too hard – Alonso (BBC)

“When they bring normal tyres with good grip, we finish the tyre in two or three laps. When they bring harder tyres we finish the tyre in eight or nine laps but we go very slow.”

Alonso sure Bianchi has a great career ahead of him (Reuters)

“Hopefully with this result he can have a more competitive car next year and show his talent even more.”

Mercedes W05 – new front-wing endplate (F1)

“Despite their dominance, Mercedes keep developing their car in the hope of keeping their advantage for as long as possible.”

Where has the glamour gone? (James Moy)

“There is another type of Monaco Chav. The ones that sit on their boats, hugely overweight, surrounded by pretty Russian hookers whilst blasting out RnB at full volume. The ‘nouveau riche’ Chav.”


Comment of the day

Many were delighted to witness Marussia’s breakthrough points finish last weekend:

The highlight for me was Bianchi and Marussia scoring their first points, it is something I didn’t expect to see this year. Those points are so valuable to them, it is easy to forget how smaller they are than other teams (even Caterham), not only is it a morale booster for the team it also brings them valuable FOM points.

I am a big Marussia fan so seeing them celebrate like they won the race was so special it almost brought a tear to the eye. It was not a points scoring occasion like in the past where a Jordan or perhaps a Minardi would only get in the points because of the high attrition rate that used to happen during races in the past. They did a better job on the weekend than the other teams, Marussia have built a reliable car, obviously got the strategy right on race day, Bianchi did everything he could dragging that car into the points, a brilliant overtake on Kobayashi all culminated in a fantastic weekend for them.
Lucas Wilson (@Full-Throttle-F1)

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On this day in F1

1994 F1 seasonFerrari, Sauber, Tyrrell, Minardi and Larrousse were the only teams to participate in the first practice session for the Spanish Grand Prix, held 20 years ago today. The remaining nine teams sat it out while they confronted the FIA over its plan to introduce drastic changes to the cars on safety grounds.

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294 comments on ‘I wish you could see Rosberg’s data’ – Hamilton

  1. chris said on 27th May 2014, 11:19

    I’m losing respect for Hamilton pretty quickly.

    He just can’t stop whining.

  2. Colossal Squid (@colossal-squid) said on 27th May 2014, 11:46

    It’s a coy move on Hamilton’s part. He gets to play the downtrodden hero now, and turn the media against Rosberg, especially in the UK. The British media love their pantomime villans and this is perfect for them to have the narrative now become Hero Hamilton vs. Cheater Rosberg.

    I suspect he saw only what he wanted to see. There’s precedent here with Hamilton seeing what he wants to see at times – look at Belgium 2012 with the telemetry. He can also percieve slights where there are none – his tantrum over Jenson Button ‘unfollowing’ him on twitter after Hamilton signed for Mercedes, when in reality Button had never followed him at all.

    Furthermore he gets to say what he said with relative impunity. The telemetry will never be made public. Mercedes will not come out and say Hamilton is wrong as they’ll run the risk of upsetting their highly expensive driver and plunging the team into chaos by publicly saying he was wrong or lying. Rosberg can deny it all he wants, but Hamilton has raised doubts in peoples minds and nothing Rosberg can say will change them. Perception is everything.

    Hamilton is a hell of a driver. No question. But his easily bruised ego, petulant and childish behaviour and (to me) his need to always be seen as the burdened, struggling or conspired against hero means while I respect him for his awesome skills behind the wheel I have very little of the same for him when he steps out of the car.

    • Funkyf1 (@funkyf1) said on 27th May 2014, 12:13

      Well said +1

    • iFelix (@ifelix) said on 27th May 2014, 12:21

      I agree, but he has also created bad press for himself and he cares more about this stuff than the cerebral Rosberg.

    • “There’s precedent here with Hamilton seeing what he wants to see at times – look at Belgium 2012 with the telemetry.”

      There’s also precedent of people purposely stopping Hamilton completing his qualifying laps because they fear his speed.

      • Colossal Squid (@colossal-squid) said on 28th May 2014, 0:48

        The only thing I can remember where your statement is true is Hungary 2007, and if I remember correctly, before Alonso held up Hamilton in the pits, Hamilton himself had impeded Alonso on his flying lap. So your ‘precedent’ doesn’t hold much water when Hamilton had instigated the whole affair.

        You couldn’t possibly be referring to the events of last Saturday, where Rosberg was cleared of any wrongdoing by a panel of highly trained, experienced stewards with access to far more data and information than any of us. That would be preposterous and make for a rather weak argument.

      • “Hamilton had instigated the whole affair.”

        The situation arose because Hamilton couldn’t let Alonso through without letting Ferrari’s through as well, as they left the pits right behind Alonso, Hamilton couldn’t have known this was going to happen and made an instant judgement call based on the facts he saw at that given moment. Unfortunate situation at very best, not a cause to go purposly cheating your teammate out of doing _any_ final quali lap.

        “where Rosberg was cleared of any wrongdoing by a panel of highly trained, experienced stewards with access to far more data and information than any of us.”

        The stewards make bizarre decisions all the time, practically every race weekend theres debates being had about penalties or lack of them, the stewards are not perfect and they do make clangers, its interesting how much people big them up when they make a decision they agree with.

        My opinion on this matter is that they came to a quick decision because it was essentially a Merc vs Merc fight. Not because there wasnt any ambiguity in the evidence. Had Vettel been the one to cause those yellows in that manner, you can bet your very last penny Merc would have been in there to argue the contrary. You can be certain much more would have been made of the situation than actually was.

    • Rick said on 27th May 2014, 13:25

      Actually I believe what he cares about is winning and more importantly doing it fairly.

  3. Joaquin (@fat-tyre) said on 27th May 2014, 11:51

    Glamour can go to hell as far as I’m concerned.

  4. Funkyf1 (@funkyf1) said on 27th May 2014, 12:15

    “I wish you could see what you are doing”

  5. Paul2013 said on 27th May 2014, 12:41

    I really like Nico, I do not understand why Hamilton is not focus on comeptition instead of breaking the team.

  6. Ron (@rcorporon) said on 27th May 2014, 12:47

    I have some advice for Hamilton:

    Drive more, talk less.

    • How can he do that when people stop him driving? ;]

    • William Jones said on 27th May 2014, 21:51

      Sadly, we have limited tyres at races and limited testing, so he’ll probably just have to ignore your sage wisdom and drive just the same amount as he already is.

  7. matt said on 27th May 2014, 13:34

    all of us moan and complain when we are not happy about something.and lewis drove well in monaco,he stayed to within a second of nico for most the race.he didnt try any rash moves,and was controlled in his driving.it was actually nico who made the mistake in quali,ANOTHER mistake under pressure.nico got away with it this time tho.and this engine mode thing in barca,in a interview,when asked about it,nico said i dont know what NIKI is referring to.he said its normal to switch engine modes.

  8. Deb Luhi (@debeluhi) said on 27th May 2014, 13:34

    Hamilton had 4 wins in a row. In two of these races he “destroyed” Rosberg and in the other two he still managed to win although, in his mind, he had a slower car. That would be a big confidence boost for any driver. Then people (media) started asking themselves whether he can win the rest of the races. It appears Hamilton believed that he can do that, judging by the interviews before the last race.
    For a person obsessed to become one of the greats, I believe he already won all of the races in his mind. But then the Q3 happened.

  9. Klaas (@klaas) said on 27th May 2014, 15:28

    I don’t know if Rosberg cheated or not. But one thing is for sure – Nico could only beat HAM this season on 2 occasions:
    1. HAM had a car failure in Australia
    2. HAM was prevented to finish the lap for pole on a circuit where is VERY difficult to overtake (due to Nico’s mistake)
    HAM needs to get his act together and win in Montreal (like in the old days). Seven years ago at Monaco people were falling for this “victim” stuff, but now nobody is buying his tantrums.

  10. Fixy (@fixy) said on 27th May 2014, 15:58

    Rosberg may have been started playing tough, but Hamilton won four races in a row even after head-to-head fighting and Rosberg, who lost those duels, always congratulated his team mate. Now Hamilton finishes second once and suddenly he’s the victim, Nico is the evil guy and the world is unfair. That looks all too much like childish behaviour to me.

    • Robbie (@robbie) said on 27th May 2014, 19:38

      Problem is, as I see it, LH did not win 4 straight head to head fair and square…he started this downhill trend of childishness when he cranked up his boost to keep NR back, in Spain. Yes NR did not take the high road, and he too did it at the next race, but LH set the tone by potentially robbing NR of a win. In a perfect world perhaps NR should not have done or said anything about LH cranking his boost, taking the win, and apologizing after the fact, but I think that a WDC level driver would not let that alone, which I’m starting to think NR is just that, WDC level and not one to let himself get rolled over.

      • Robbie (@robbie) said on 27th May 2014, 19:50

        Correction…after re-reading the quotes from Toto Wolff LH cranked his boost in Spain, and he LH only suspects NR did back in Bahrain, but since Wolff doesn’t mention that I would say it is pure spin from LH. LH has set the tone they are now in with his cranking of the boost in Spain and therefore did not win 4 straight fair and square imho.

        • William Jones said on 27th May 2014, 21:55

          Why on earth are Mercedes even preventing their drivers from extracting more performance from their cars in a perfectly legal way? Seems weird to me.

          • Robbie (@robbie) said on 27th May 2014, 23:32

            I think it might be that they don’t need to crank things up to beat the competition, so might as well conserve their engines and gearboxes.

  11. Robbie (@robbie) said on 27th May 2014, 16:13

    Wow…so much to weed through here but in general I see this all having started by LH needing to crank up his boost to stay ahead of NR. Seems to me LH started this path and NR has had to now play the game. They’ve both now been guilty of tabloid junk…LH moreso…but I certainly no longer believe that LH won 4 in a row fair and square. Some have argued NR has needed LH’s ozzy DNF to be ahead, and otherwise LH has been trouncing him…but now we know LH started a downhill trend by cranking up his boost first. No question LH sees NR as a legitimate threat, and he may like to boil it down to “I’m faster” but if that is the case he shouldn’t have had to crank his boost to maximum in order to beat NR. All the crap since LH has brought upon himself IMHO.

  12. kpcart said on 27th May 2014, 16:42

    the strange data Hamilton saw from Saturday was rosberg outbreaking himself and going down the escape road… wow big revelation. Hamilton must have looked at it and thought “hmm, that is strange, he is not completing his lap” that is about all that is strange about it… the data will correlate to what the whole world saw, a driver braking in the wrong spot, nearly losing control of his car, and choosing to go down the escape road instead of continueing to brake and turn in to an apex he wont hit, and instead hit the barriers ala Hamilton in qualifying a few years ago.

  13. Ab576 said on 27th May 2014, 17:02

    Why does something dodgy always happen when flavio briatore is around?

  14. DeVante said on 27th May 2014, 17:17

    What Lewis should post is the pit times of both drivers since the start of this Championship…

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