Felipe Massa, Williams, Red Bull Ring, 2014

2014 Austrian Grand Prix grid

2014 Austrian Grand PrixPosted on | Author Keith Collantine

Felipe Massa, Williams, Red Bull Ring, 2014

Row 1 1. Felipe Massa 1’08.759
Williams
2. Valtteri Bottas 1’08.846
Williams
Row 2 3. Nico Rosberg 1’08.944
Mercedes
4. Fernando Alonso 1’09.285
Ferrari
Row 3 5. Daniel Ricciardo 1’09.466
Red Bull
6. Kevin Magnussen 1’09.515
McLaren
Row 4 7. Daniil Kvyat 1’09.619
Toro Rosso
8. Kimi Raikkonen 1’10.795
Ferrari
Row 5 9. Lewis Hamilton No time
Mercedes
10. Nico Hulkenberg No time
Force India
Row 6 11. Jenson Button 1’09.780
McLaren
12. Sebastian Vettel 1’09.801
Red Bull
Row 7 13. Pastor Maldonado 1’09.939
Lotus
14. Jean-Eric Vergne 1’10.073
Toro Rosso
Row 8 15. Sergio Perez* 1’09.754
Force India
16. Adrian Sutil 1’10.825
Sauber
Row 9 17. Esteban Gutierrez 1’11.349
Sauber
18. Jules Bianchi 1’11.412
Marussia
Row 10 19. Kamui Kobayashi 1’11.673
Caterham
20. Marcus Ericsson 1’12.673
Caterham
Row 11 21. Max Chilton** 1’11.775
Marussia
22. Romain Grosjean*** 1’10.642
Lotus

*Five-place penalty for causing a collision with Felipe Massa
**Three-place penalty for causing a collision with Jules Bianchi
***Started from pit lane after car was taken out of parc ferme

Image © Williams/LAT

82 comments on “2014 Austrian Grand Prix grid”

  1. Daniel (@collettdumbletonhall)
    21st June 2014, 14:04

    Well that was unexpected.

    1. 6 cars in the first 7 places. Refreshing even for a Mercedes fan

  2. Well that’s… disturbing

  3. Graham (@guitargraham)
    21st June 2014, 14:05

    fantastic!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GO TEAM WILLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  4. I remember Sky were saying before quali that Mercedes’ advantage would be bigger here than any other circuit so far… so much for that!

    1. Chris (@tophercheese21)
      21st June 2014, 14:22

      I think it would’ve been a Mercedes 1-2 again had Lewis’s car not unexpectedly snapped, and thus effected Nico’s lap as well.

      But, shoulda, woulda coulda.

      Congrats to Williams! They finally capitalized on a favour able situation!

  5. Did not see that one coming! So pleased for Massa and Bottas, and Williams! And that spin for Hamilton was completely unexpected! Fantastic – those 12 minutes were better than last year’s entire season.

    1. “Did not see that one coming”
      Rather, I didn’t see that one-two coming :D

    2. “those 12 minutes were better than last year’s entire season”

      +1

    3. “those 12 minutes were better than last year’s entire season”

      +2

  6. That was great but don’t expect a win ;D

  7. Hamilton now under total pressure for this championship and cracking, dismal performance.

    1. He will crash tomorrow. Its so easy to predict. I mentioned after his first run mistake he would end up p10 and I wasn’t too wrong ! Rosberg has him on the ropes now. It should be an easy win for him tomorrow and the championship slipping further away from Hamilton. Its not over, but you expect with others seemingly catching up Mercedes will pick their lead driver soon.

    2. Technical failure, without a doubt.

      1. @dh1996 Toto Wolff later said there wasn’t a technical problem:

        http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2014/06/22/f1-fanatic-round-2206/

    3. He certainly messed up the 1st lap, but that was such an odd spin that I can’t imagine it was anything other than a technical failure.

      1. I guess it was a driver error that resulted in a bit of an exaggerated spin due to the BBW

    4. That looked like a transmission-failure on downshift.

      1. Maybe so, to be honest I was distracted at the precise moment and haven’t seen the replay
        However ever since his unwise ‘I’m hungrier’ comment, Nico has been piling on the pressure. This has led to smaller margins for Hamilton, including his run-off in the first run of the final qualifying session, where he just had to put in a banker lap. It’s all knock-on effects. He needs to stop trying to win everything instantly and consolidate or he’ll lose the championship in the next few races.

        1. He’s losing far more points due to car failures than his own errors or failings. That’s where his problem really lies.

          1. Well, for example this quali, it was 50/50 in regards to himself (binned the 1st quick lap) and car problem (assuming the last one is indeed car problem).

  8. WOW. Massa on pole!!! Bottas second!!! Williams 1-2!!! Loads of exclamation marks!!! Awesome!!!

    1. First Williams 1-2 since… Germany ’03?

  9. Growing up in the bad ass streets of Stevenage can play tricks on the mind. Cut Hamsy some slack.

  10. Hamilton’s first lap would have been faster – he was 4 tenth up on Bottas after the 2nd sector at that time. Unfortunately for him, he overcooked it in the last sector.

    1. There’s been plenty of would’ve, could’ve for Hamilton this season, but as we know, it only counts if you can hold it for the entire lap, parts don’t really matter.

      1. Absolutely, but I just wanted to say that Merc in principle had the speed to be ahead of Williams.

        1. That’s true, hence Rosberg didn’t do too stellar job either, for whatever reason. So Williams really capitalized this moment Merc gave them. Briliant!

          1. Rosberg was held up by yellow flag due to Hamilton spin. @lari

  11. Felipe Baby!!!

    1. omarr-pepper
      21st June 2014, 14:25

      Alonso must be wishing to have that Williams so much!!!

  12. Michael Brown (@)
    21st June 2014, 14:10

    Hamilton had issues with his BBW

    1. Must’ve been, very weird lock up otherwise.

  13. Everyone, Felipe is faster than you!

    Beautiful. I shed a tear. as a long time Williams fan, no matter the drivers. What a good day it is indeed. Maldonado his win was nice but this really is something else emotionally for me.

    1. Its great to see them really take the fight, and not mess up. Not expecting a great result for them tomorrow but wouldn’t it be incredible if they did!

    2. I too shed a tear. I think anyone who loves F1 has to like seeing Sir Frank and Felipe get today’s result. Hell, I think I even saw Seb shed a tear, but that may have been for completely different reasons.

  14. Hamilton choked under pressure and Rosberg didn’t get the most out of that W05. Sad. But many many congratulations to Massa, Bottas and Williams. Finally performing to the potential of that car.

    1. I think they’ve extracted the best out of the car on a few occassions already this season. I think this was something noone expected and I’d say they overdid it now.

      1. Considering how close they were to Mercedes during pre season test, one would have expected a better fight from them but due to some unlucky circumstances and some of their own doing, they couldn’t capitalise on that. But yes, today’s a celebration day for them. Lets enjoy the change we got to see. :) Hopefully Massa can hold that position in race as well.

  15. Hamilton binning it, England’s soccer team binning it, this week(end) hasn’t been good for them…

    1. Both Williams on the front row is nothing to be unhappy about!

      1. That is 100% true, it’s very, very big reason to be happy! But by the looks of it, Hamilton has more fans than Williams….or just more vocal fans in this forum.

        1. I think that a large amount of F1F contributors would be well pleased for Frank and Claire and all the team

  16. Best qualifying this season. Icing on the cake was Alonso congratulating Massa. Alonso wondering why is he still stuck with Ferrari.

    1. Yeah, it definitely is nice to see the respect they have for each other :D

  17. Given how everyone is going on about Ricciardo beating Vettel proves that Vettel is overrated & undeserving of his success.

    Do the same people also think that Rosberg proving as fast as/beating Lewis proves that Lewis is overrated? Afterall we have had 7-8 years of been told that Lewis is the best driver on the grid or whatever & would easily win the championship if given a half decent car.

    1. There’s a difference between 6-2, and 4-4 in qualy. Also everyone expected Rosberg to match Hamilton. Whereas everyone expected Vettel to destroy Riccardo. Also race wise its still 4-1 where both Mercedes have finished. Could be 4-2 tomorrow, lets wait and see. Either way it sets up a great race.

    2. Please, without two technical failures, Lewis Hamilton would be wiping the floor in the championship. Bit premature to say he’s not doing well!

      1. omarr-pepper
        21st June 2014, 14:28

        @kibblesworth also to glitches for Vettel.

      2. omarr-pepper
        21st June 2014, 14:28

        @kibblesworth also 2 glitches for Vettel (still drowsy sorry)

    3. I don’t think Vettel is overrated. He was clearly the best with the regulations of the last 5 years – it simply suited his driving style well. He is struggling with the handling of the car, and we will have to see whether he can adjust eventually or not – he will have to if he wants to win again as we will have the current regulations for a while to come.

      1. “handling the car” is kinda of a huge part of the sport, and it is not as if he has being doing mistakes in which case he could adjust by having a different approach. He just has being “slower than Ricciardo”

  18. Michael Brown
    21st June 2014, 14:16

    Well done Felipe and Williams ! Fantastic quali result all-round

  19. Neil (@neilosjames)
    21st June 2014, 14:17

    Awesome result for Massa, really happy for him.

    But… still would have preferred a first pole for Bottas.

  20. Pole lap replay clearly showed that Massa was always within track limits. By quite a lot actually, it was not even a question.

  21. Gideon Hadi (@)
    21st June 2014, 14:20

    I’m very happy to see Williams at the front row, however my predictions ends in a total disaster, i did put both Williams on the Top 5, but I put them in the wrong position, 3rd and 5th, and I put both Mercedes on 1st and 2nd, along with Ricciardo on 4th. but overall, a really thrilling qualifying

    1. well, the order only matters for the race!

      @f1indofans

  22. *Five-place penalty for causing a collision with Felipe Massa
    **Three-place penalty for causing a collision with Jules Bianchi

    I was looking at that. Why is there a difference in penalties for those collisions?

    1. Yeah, why is Bianchi’s DNF somehow deemed less important than Massa’s that Chilton has to be penalised less positions even though both Chilton and Perez were punished taking another driver out of the race.

      Then again it’s hardly a rare occurrence to see the FIA stewards being inconsistent.

      1. +1 to you both. It seems completely unfair, especially given that there is a lot more room for debate over the Perez / Massa incident compared with the Chilton / Bianchi one.

    2. Daniel (@collettdumbletonhall)
      21st June 2014, 15:44

      Given how Chilton never qualifies higher than 20th anyway I doubt it really matters.

    3. @xtwl – Chilton lost control of his car accidentally and took another car out (bad), Perez deliberately changed his line in the braking zone and took another car (very bad).

  23. So happy for Massa and Williams…. great stuff :)

  24. Come on Mercedes! Crash both cars and make it an exciting race!!!

    1. They already made the race alot more interesting with this quali :)

  25. WilliamB (@william-brierty)
    21st June 2014, 14:24

    Yet more evidence, if it were needed, that the out of touch insults leveled at the new formula by F1’s naysayers, such as those of Ferrari’s di Montezemelo, are nothing more than the aloof and anarchic mutterings of a team that has lost it touch. What a thrilling season. What a lens 2014 is to view previous years through: namely Felipe Massa, who many concluded (including me – who linked Felipe with a comfy Ferrari GTE drive, not a Williams race seat) that because he scored less than half the points of Alonso had lost his speed, but is now performing fabulously against his young hotly-tipped teammate; as illustrated by a GORGEOUSLY driven pole lap today. And that poses the subsidiary: if Massa is still fast, what kind of job was Alonso doing in past seasons to annihilate him so emphatically?

    1. Well maybe Alonso is just faster than the fast Felipe?.. Look, he dragged that Ferrari into second row today, only 0.4s behind the pole.

    2. I think that’s more of Massa showing what he’s capable of now that he’s not stuck as a #2 driver… Alonso’s one of the best, but he is still human :P

    3. maybe having the preference on team strategy and mechanics to set up the car is a bigger advantage than we think, just remember in 2006 Schumacher’s diffrence to Massa was about the same to Alonso’s to Fisichella and yet when Raikkonen went to Ferrari who everyone thought was a hotshot like Alonso finished only 14 point ahead. and 2009 when Massa was out with double the points of Raikkonen and Fisichella came in to sub him his diffrence to Raikkonen was HUGE.

      1. And more recently is Kimi and Grosjean last year. When Kimi fell out with the team all the attention went to Grosjean and he became the fastest non-Red Bull driver.

  26. For anyone wondering what happened to Rosberg’s final run, He had to back off because of the yellow flags from Hamilton’s spin.

    1. @stefmeister

      I would say that was Monaco payback…
      But since Hamilton still lost out, it’s not quite :P

      1. Imagine if Hamilton had stayed on track for his first run and got pole, then spins on his next lap. Puts Rosberg down in fourth. What would the reaction be.

  27. hehe, that was one cracker of a qualy) And we seem to be all set for a very interesting race tomorrow.

    Congratulations to Felipe and Williams. It was cool =)

    Did anyone catch what Nico said to Massa at the presser? Felipe seemed to get sort of annoyed =)

  28. HOLLY SHIVERS

  29. Wow, awesome, I couldn’t believe it. Both Williams in the front row, WOW.
    I can’t wait for the race!

  30. Well, this is set to be interesting tomorrow.

    Looking past the front row, there has to be a big round of applause going Kvyat and Magnussen’s way. Absolutely destroyed Vergne and Button and put in stellar laps in Q3.

    I don’t know if it’s the nature of this season, an effect of the new regulations or the fact that the field has been leveled up as everyone needs to get used to these new cars, but I have to say, this year’s batch of rookies (especially these two fellas mentioned above) looks VERY promising.

    1. @tony031r

      Agreed… But perhaps Kvyat and Magnussen’s recent experience did help accentuate their skills a touch.

      Both of those just seemed to know the little characteristics of the circuit more than everyone else.
      Of course their experience wasn’t in an F1 car, but familiarisation with a circuit can somewhat transcend the machinery you’re in.

  31. Gideon Hadi (@)
    21st June 2014, 14:39

    i predict this could be another Canada last 2 weeks. with the Williams battle along with Rosberg, P1 will be very interesting to watch. and p4 battle also very thrilling, i think Alonso, Magnussen, Ricciardo and even Hamilton will battle for it, and lets hope Vettel, Button, and Grosjean could match their teammate on Race

  32. Last time Williams had first row of the grid, the cars starting from 2nd, 3rd and 5th all DNFed due to a first-corner-incident. That was Germany 2003.

  33. So we have a season that so far has given us a change in the order, a tough battle for the WDC between teammates who seem to use every trick in the book and feel the pressure. It gave us 2 of the best races in the last decade. And we got a new winner already in Canada. Now first front row lockout for Williams in over a decade as well as the top 7 being within a second and speeds being close to what they were at the top of the tyre war and with V10s.

    And the guys in charge offer us to “solve” the on track action by losing even more time from racing if we get a SC?? What are they smoking?

    The on track stuff is working as it should guys, just solve issues with sustainability of the financial side.

    1. “And the guys in charge offer us to “solve” the on track action by losing even more time from racing if we get a SC?? What are they smoking? ”

      The viewer-numbers are decreasing. This is mainly due to wrong marketing-choices (and most of all, wrong choice of marketing channels, Pay-TV instead of the Internet), and since those in charge are responsible for those wrong decisions, they want to distract from that. Either that, or they are simply too old and too much out of touch to realise what they are doing, and are just trying to fight that loss of viewers somehow.
      However, that´ll get better once Bernie is history. And LdM (the biggest burden Ferrari ever had), too.

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