Rosberg is “not really German” – Hamilton

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Lewis Hamilton, Nico Rosberg, Mercedes, Red Bull Ring, 2014In the round-up: Lewis Hamilton says the upcoming German Grand Prix is not a true home race for team mate Nico Rosberg.

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Hamilton: Rosberg is not German (The Guardian)

“He never stood by a German flag. He is German-Finnish-Monaco-esque, or whatever.”

FIA made right calls on Vettel/Alonso fight, says Horner (Adam Cooper’s F1 Blog)

“Charlie [Whiting] pointed out a couple of times track limits to Seb, and Alonso got a warning flag, which was for track limits. The problem is when you’ve got run-off like that, and it’s quicker, drivers are going to want to abuse it.”

Williams surprised by pace (Sky)

Rob Smedley: “My opinion of him is growing week by week. I think he’s a very, very good driver and he can become an exceptional driver. We’re lucky to have him.”

Massa wants crackdown on Merc’s formation laps (ESPN)

“The FIA say we can’t go so slow but they didn’t do anything or penalise anyone. I think if they penalise one car for that by giving them a five grid penalty for the next race, everything will change.”

Lauda critical of Raikkonen’s driving (Autosport)

“He went wide, so why does he come in balls out and then crash? Hopefully nothing happened [to hurt him], but it was unnecessary.”

France pursues Swiss firm over alleged theft of Schumacher’s medical records (The Telegraph)

“The email offers were signed off with the name Kagemusha – a Japanese term translated literally as ‘Shadow Warrior’ and the title of a 1980 film about a petty thief who stands in for a wounded samurai warlord. More recently the emails were signed off ‘Jeremy Martin’.”

Change underway at Ferrari, says Mattiacci (Reuters)

“Starting from here we need to prepare a different team for 2015. Do we need to do an announcement? No. Do we need to improve? Continuous improvement, yes. That is our position.”

Why Formula One Doesn’t Need To Change Its Social Media Strategy (Forbes)

“Very few if any other sports give as much access to the media and literally let them sit next to the superstar athletes as they relax and discuss the day’s events with their bosses in their locker rooms. F1 fans don’t have this luxury but social media does.”

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Adam takes issue with Niki Lauda’s view that the barrier Raikkonen hit didn’t need replacing but it was unlikely to be hit a second time.

As unlikely as it is for someone else to crash there, the chance cannot be taken. One hour of waiting (and Silverstone making tons of money off of extra beers being sold) is well worth helping to ensure the safety of both the drivers and the marshals. Just look at the BTCC at Thruxton this year, that could have been really ugly, especially the driver (I forget who it was) that used the damaged barrier to launch into the air.

An argument could be made for speeding up the marshals by having them practice replacing elements off the barriers, but who knows how hard it was to disassemble the damaged guardrail.

There is a reason F1 hasn’t had a fatality during a grand prix weekend since 1994, and that is because the FIA do a good job monitoring all of the minor details when it comes to safety. There isn’t much the FIA do right, but safety is certainly one of the few things they have right.

Except for the excessive asphalt run-off areas. If there was a gravel trap there, the accident wouldn’t have happened the way it did. And drivers would not complain about track limits as much either.
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F1’s only race around the streets of Dallas was held 30 years ago today. In brutal heat the track fell to pieces, and Keke Rosberg emerged on top of a three-way scrap with Nigel Mansell and Alain Prost to give Williams their only win of the season, and their first with Honda power.

Mansell’s gearbox failed him just metres from the finishing line. He tried to push his Lotus across the line, but collapsed in the heat. He was classified sixth, three laps down, scoring one point.

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  1. Calum (@calum) said on 8th July 2014, 0:18

    “To be honest, Nico has never been in Germany, so he’s not really German. I remember when we used to race during karting, he never stood next to a German flag – not ever.

    “We would have to go on the start line and all the drivers would have to stand next to a grid girl in a line. The girls would be holding the flags or a sign saying Hungary or whatever, and he always stood by the Monaco one. He never stood by a German flag. He is German-Finnish-Monaco-esque, or whatever. So it would be great to win in Germany.”

    http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/jul/07/lewis-hamilton-nico-rosberg-f1-rivals-mercedes

    Although I did find this picture!!
    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/07/04/article-0-1F6450FC00000578-470_634x659.jpg

  2. ChimpSafari said on 8th July 2014, 0:25

    Lewis does have a point. I seem to remember reading somewhere (I think from Nico himself) that he only registered German nationality because it was a big country with a good motorsports heritage so easier to get sponsorship in his early career.

  3. Max Jacobson (@vettel1) said on 8th July 2014, 0:26

    I see his point, but don’t understand why he made the comment. It seems quite unnecessary really.

    • Dave (@raceprouk) said on 8th July 2014, 0:33

      Maybe, but the article doesn’t mention what Hamilton was asked. Still, whatever the reason, it’s not inaccurate ;-)

    • celeste (@celeste) said on 8th July 2014, 0:35

      Bur really fun to read it… I was to go all mean girls. “Burn” Nico.

    • matt90 (@matt90) said on 8th July 2014, 1:48

      Presumably as a response to a question along the lines of “you won your home race, knowing how that feels would you begrudge Rosberg winning his?”

    • Gwan said on 8th July 2014, 5:44

      He probably knows better than we do whether that would offend Nico. I am “officially” British since that enables me to work in the EU, but I’m really a New Zealander, and I’m the first to say “I’m not really British”, so those remarks wouldn’t bother me.

    • Patrick (@paeschli) said on 8th July 2014, 8:13

      To be honest, I think it’s awful Rosberg says at 3 different weekends that it is his home grand prix (Monaco, Silverstone and Germany).

      • Robbie (@robbie) said on 8th July 2014, 12:06

        Awful? Really? I don’t see the big deal. Lives in Monaco and used to walk those streets to go to school, Silverstone is 10 minutes from Mercedes’ F1 headquarters, and Germany is where he was born. And I believe Nico can speak the language can’t he? Why wouldn’t he play up his German heritage while on a German team? I think LH comes across as petty in this, and to me it doesn’t matter how the question was posed…it’s how he gave the answer. Nor does it matter what tracks NR claims are his home ones. LH’s fans are happy to point out which ones are ‘his’ tracks, as in the ones he excels at. Anyway, it’s just words, and I’m sure NR is used to it having known LH for so long and will only be invigorated by LH’s opinion if he does hear it.

    • JCost (@jcost) said on 8th July 2014, 8:34

      I too think he didn’t have to say that, maybe he was answering a direct question on the matter or he just wants to irritate Nico who as of late is pushing really hard to look as German as possible… by the way, good luck to the “Deutsche Fußballnationalmannschaft” :)

    • manu said on 8th July 2014, 10:21

      Media folks have a way of setting you up with a question or leading you on a certain path with your answers, and then blowing it out of proportion by omitting certain parts of the interview, its always better to hear the interview than to read about it. This is kind of the Monaco situation, where Lewis said that “The hunger was different” and it was translated to “I am more hungrier than him”

    • James (@iamjamm) said on 8th July 2014, 13:00

      Judging by this article from the daily fail, the comments that the Guardian have used are intended jokingly, as Lewis then does the add a few more comments which the Guardian journalist chose not to include.

      Without hearing the interview then it’s difficult to judge the tone of the answer. It was an unnecessary response though, regardless of whether it’s a joke or not, Lewis could simply have said “Yes, it would be huge to beat Nico at his home race”, but then there would maybe be people complaining that he was too short with his response.

      If you don’t like a driver you’re more likely to look for something negative in whatever they do/say. I’m sure if Lewis thought Nico would be offended by what he said then he wouldn’t have said it. They may be playing games with each other’s heads at the moment but I doubt either would be truly malicious toward one another’s heritage.

      • Michael (@freelittlebirds) said on 8th July 2014, 13:45

        Thanks for the link – obviously taken out of context because he does admit that Germany and Monaco are his home races. He’s just perplexed that people view Nico as primarily German when obviously Nico himself never felt that way.

  4. Adam Blocker (@blockwall2) said on 8th July 2014, 0:29

    @keithcollantine Thanks for the COTD. It is my second :)

    And Lewis is right about Nico, he is more Finnish or Monegasque than German. But I see no reason why he made the comment, unless he just wants to stir up trouble.

    • Strontium (@strontium) said on 8th July 2014, 0:32

      @blockwall2 Probably to boast about his current mental strength, etc. etc.

    • Clive Allen (@clive-allen) said on 8th July 2014, 1:01

      Actually, it’s even more complicated than Lewis mentioned. Nico’s father, Keke, was born in Sweden of Swedish parents and later moved to Finland and then Germany. I don’t blame Nico for not being entirely sure what nationality he is…

      • bull mello (@bullmello) said on 8th July 2014, 1:23

        @clive-allen

        I have it figured out, Rosberg’s heritage is so twisted up, he must be American! ;-)

        (So stated by a US citizen of Danish, Swedish, English, German, Norwegian, Scottish, Irish… descent.)

      • Hotbottoms (@hotbottoms) said on 8th July 2014, 10:35

        @clive-allen

        Nico’s father, Keke, was born in Sweden of Swedish parents

        I don’t think this can be true. Keke was born in Sweden, but how could he be Finnish, if his parents were Swedish?

        His parents do have a Swedish last name, but that’s very common in Finland. About 5 % of Finnish people speak Swedish as their mother tongue, but they’re still as much Finns as everyone else. Besides, I don’t think Keke’s mother tongue is Swedish. After doing some research, I couldn’t find any proof that his native language isn’t Finnish and apparently his biography states that he had some trouble with living in a Swedish village, because everyone was speaking a language he didn’t know – that probably wasn’t the case if his family spoke Swedish.

        • Lari (@lari) said on 8th July 2014, 19:53

          Keke is Finnish, was born in Sweden and his mother tongue is swedish, as is for 5% of the Finnish people (which you mentioned). Hence he has both passports. Keke is married to German woman, so Nico is 50% German, 50% Finnish (maybe 1% Swedish since he was born there ;)

        • Clive Allen (@clive-allen) said on 8th July 2014, 20:02

          I couldn’t find any definitive answers on the family’s movements in Keke’s early years either, @hotbottoms. While it is true that many Finns do have Swedish names thanks, no doubt, to an ancestor having made the trip across the Baltic, there is no doubt that Keke was born in Stockholm, which gives him a Swedish element at the very least. The name is the telling factor, however – there’s a Swede in that ancestry somewhere!

          It would be interesting to know how old Keke was when he was living in a Swedish village. I’ve always assumed that the family moved to Finland when Keke was very young and so he never learned Swedish – but, if he found it difficult in the village, he must have spent a vacation there at least.

          • Lari (@lari) said on 8th July 2014, 20:36

            Going with ancestors-way, if you dig long enough, you might change your view on Lewis also. But that’s just stupid.

    • rez (@rez0) said on 8th July 2014, 9:40

      @blockwall2 How is he more Finnish? He doesn’t even speak the language! And afaik he also never lived there. IMO he is Monegasque more than anything.

    • Hotbottoms (@hotbottoms) said on 8th July 2014, 10:20

      And Lewis is right about Nico, he is more Finnish or Monegasque than German.

      Nico is without a doubt more German than Finnish – he doesn’t even speak Finnish language!

      When Nico came into Formula One, MTV3 (the Finnish broadcaster of Formula One) tried to represent him as a Finn even though he didn’t race under a Finnish flag and he didn’t speak Finnish. In the results, Rosberg’s name was even written with blue color, just like other Finnish drivers. But Finns never regarded Rosberg as a Finnish driver and after a couple of years MTV3 stopped doing this. Even now, when Rosberg is fighting for the championship, MTV3 isn’t trying to represent him as a Finn.

      But I see no reason why he made the comment, unless he just wants to stir up trouble.

      I agree. I’ve never liked Rosberg before this season, but now I’ve started to hope he beats Hamilton, because after all these comments from Lewis I find Nico a lot more likeable.

    • petebaldwin (@petebaldwin) said on 8th July 2014, 11:50

      @blockwall2 – I am almost certain he was asked something along the lines of “so the crowd really pushed you on at your home race – what do you think your chances are of beating Nico at his home race?”

      If asked that, it would make perfect sense for Lewis to repond as he did.

  5. Strontium (@strontium) said on 8th July 2014, 0:31

    Firstly, sausage kerbs – use them as well.

    Secondly, I liked hearing Hamilton complain about the Santander trophy. Made a refreshing change. I was surprised he didn’t get the actual one.

    Finally, it seems like Lewis is doing the mind games again (although I didn’t actually read the article, so I could be wrong). I find is weird for some reason, that Rosberg is Finnish too, and I do wonder what it would be like if he raced under a Finnish license.

  6. Bullfrog (@bullfrog) said on 8th July 2014, 0:46

    I approve of the 28! Good choice Pedro, and have fun.

    Another day, another Hamilton headline, deservedly placed next to a video of Mansell being a drama queen.

    • Sven (@crammond) said on 8th July 2014, 10:28

      Ah, common. Hamilton may be a drama-queen sometimes, but Mansell wasn´t until the mid-90s. Before that he was the drama itself within the ancient greek meaning of it.

      And I do miss drivers fighting till collapse. I know, there´s no way they could under the current regulations, but somehow I also can´t really imagine those todays drivers doing something comparable. Who of the current grid would try and push, given the same situation?

  7. Michael C said on 8th July 2014, 0:57

    Haha nice one Lewis.
    Its the eighth wonder of the universe, nobody really knows which nationality Rosberg is.
    Grosjean should be Swiss too but France bought him for €80Million or so the prophecy says.

    Also, a bit unrelated to what’s in the round-up today but I’ll say it anyway: It would be nice to have more updates on Schumacher’s recovery from the family, I know they want confidentiality but we care too! We rarely hear anything.

    • Dwight_js said on 8th July 2014, 4:17

      Regarding Schumacher, I suspect that the family are coming to grips with some very big changes in their lives while they begin the process of learning how to care for Michael. I don’t begrudge them pulling back from the limelight to go through this process in private. In time, perhaps when they are in a better emotional “place”, they might re-introduce Michael to his fans. But even if they chose not to bring him back into the public eye, we all know that he is cared for, and loved. What else do we really need to know?

    • Liam (@) said on 8th July 2014, 8:07

      For a guy who doesn’t pay much into the exchequer. The guy has some cajones to question anybodies nationality. It now opens up the door for people to accuse him of being a tax dodger who’s loyalty lies to the Prince of Monaco and not the Queen of England. Just saying!!

      • JCost (@jcost) said on 8th July 2014, 8:45

        @c4vtr In Spain some peple call Alonso “suizo” (Swiss) because he decided to live there for fiscal reasons, Shcumi did the same and many others do, personally I don’t think leaving your country to “save” money is an act of betrayal or questionable patriotism, one has the right to reduce his tax bill without tarnishing their love for hometown.

        It’s my humble opinion.

        • The Abbinator (@abbinator) said on 9th July 2014, 0:41

          Calling it your humble opinion does not make it less wrong… ;)
          In truth, it is and should be rather odious to any ordinary (read non-millionaire) member if society to see someone dodge taxes. How do you expect schools to be built, or police, ambulance drivers or firemen to be paid for, by charitable donations from the top 1% ? Good luck when your house catches fire or if you ever are in an accident that requires medical attention relying on the kindness of the rich… For god’s sake, being rich is not laudable in and of itself, it is usually a sign of being anti-social and greedy, but that’s just my humble opinion too. BTW, F1 drivers are NOT HEROES, they are entertainers (sadly few sportsmen, if any, remain in today’s F1) and are disgustingly well compensated for their considerable skill – the real heroes today are the poor mug on a negotiated public salary who run into a burning building or are expected to face down a gun or knife. F1 drivers (or anyone with a mega-yacht moored in Monaco) should see how most of the rest of the world lives, in poverty.

          • JCost (@jcost) said on 9th July 2014, 9:28

            @abbinator so Alonso, Hamilton, Rosberg, Schumacher, Massa and many others don’t like their countries because they do not agree with its fiscal policy? Or they’re just a greedy bunch?

            I think they decision to move is debatable but judge their love for their nations on that?

    • Crom said on 8th July 2014, 9:11

      Regarding the latest Schumacher news, or on his wife rather, Bild are reporting she is “smiling again” https://twitter.com/NicolaBILD/status/485928945398079489

  8. Aqib (@aqibqadeer) said on 8th July 2014, 0:59

    it will be interesting to see the 18-inch wheels today at silverstone and when do the tests start today

  9. Clive Allen (@clive-allen) said on 8th July 2014, 1:04

    There are times when I wish Hamilton would take on Kimi as his interview coach…

    • Michael C said on 8th July 2014, 1:08

      But this is funny!

    • bull mello (@bullmello) said on 8th July 2014, 1:15

      For the media, Hamilton is the gift that just keeps on giving.

    • Julian (@julianwins) said on 8th July 2014, 1:44

      Kimi teaching PR to the drivers… As much as I would absolutely love that, I have to say that the articles we all love would quickly become quite brief! :)

      “So Fernando, why did you go outside of the track?”
      -“I went wide.”

      “Jenson, fantastic result in front of your home crowd. How does it feel?”
      -“Good.”

      “Kimi, why did you crash on the wellington straight?”
      -“A bump.”

      etc.

    • bookgrub said on 8th July 2014, 2:39

      I think the sort of answers Kimi gives just show how rubbish most of the questions he is asked are.

      If you want somebody to expound in their answer ask them to instead of giving them a yes/no questions and being surprised when they answer yes or no.

      Like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kd8ij8l1q8Y

      That’s lazy journalism, and in my view dealt with appropriately.

      • maarten.f1 (@maarten-f1) said on 8th July 2014, 6:18

        Haha, that is just so funny. Serves them right for asking such a question though. Love the look on the faces of the other drivers

      • Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 8th July 2014, 8:33

        @maarten-f1 Most if not all F1 drivers use a simulator, so what’s wrong with that question?

        • It was asked to the wrong person. Who in that room would have been unable to predict such an answer from Raikkonen?

          Besides, the focus of the question was so narrow, and, has been said elsewhere, if you allow somebody the opportunity to give a “yes” or “no” answer then you can’t be too upset when that’s all you get back.

          We moan about the limited pr driven answers we get from today’s drivers without really blaming the poor journalism that leads to them.

          Whoever got the “Nico’s not German” answer from Hamilton obviously got both the question, and the person they were asking it of, spot on!

      • Hotbottoms (@hotbottoms) said on 8th July 2014, 10:49

        @maarten-f1 @keithcollantine @andy-m
        The journalist who is asking that question is Heikki Kulta from Turun Sanomat. He’s very respected Formula One journalist in Finland and he has often been the first one to report news related to Finnish drivers. Kimi must know him very well, so he was either playing a joke on his friend or then he’s annoyed about something that Kulta has written – most likely the first one. Either way, I don’t think his short answer had a lot to do with the question itself.

    • Strontium (@strontium) said on 8th July 2014, 10:40

      Yeah that would be good.

      I don’t dislike Hamilton, and have no doubt he is one of the fastest drivers out there, but I’m seriously becoming fed up with the way he starts moaning about everything when it isn’t going correct, then the moment it does he feels the need to come out with this load of sugar, and tries to say things against Nico (which I am yet to see happen the other way round).

      As for Nico’s nationality, if he wants to consider himself German then that is his choice, and has nothing to do with Hamilton. I have two nationalities, and if I want to chose my (what I would consider) ‘foreign’ one to live by then I will, and there is no debate about that, no space for other people’s opinion. It is my decision, just like it is Nico’s.

      • Sven (@crammond) said on 8th July 2014, 13:26

        As for Nico’s nationality, if he wants to consider himself German then that is his choice, and has nothing to do with Hamilton. I have two nationalities, and if I want to chose my (what I would consider) ‘foreign’ one to live by then I will, and there is no debate about that, no space for other people’s opinion. It is my decision, just like it is Nico’s.

        What I do find odd though is that international sport events (such as F1) force people into choosing a single one, like “you have to decide which flag and anthem will be connected to you, and that will stay throughout your career. Any other heritage you have will from now on be a sidenote only”.

  10. greg-c (@greg-c) said on 8th July 2014, 1:18

    And Lewis lives where?

    • Kingshark (@kingshark) said on 8th July 2014, 4:22

      Switzerland

      • JRG said on 8th July 2014, 5:29

        He lives in Switzerland, but there’s a big difference between moving to a country at four weeks and growing up there and moving somewhere in your mid-twenties. I’ve lived in Spain for several years now and I have a near native ability in Spanish. Have I ever been mistaken for being Spanish? Never.

      • GeeMac (@geemac) said on 8th July 2014, 6:08

        Monaco isn’t it? In the same building as Nico I believe.

        • PorscheF1 (@xtwl) said on 8th July 2014, 7:38

          To evade taxes. Nice guy he is.

          • Keith Campbell (@keithedin) said on 8th July 2014, 8:35

            @xtwl I think it classes as tax ‘avoidance’, not tax ‘evasion’. There is a difference because tax avoidance is legal but tax evasion is not ;)

          • Adam Hardwick (@fluxsource) said on 8th July 2014, 9:14

            I can’t imaging I’m going to change your mind, but this vitriol on his tax status is absurd. He lives in Monaco, so why on earth should he pay taxes to the UK? The reason you pay taxes is to fund the services you are using or could use. Hence paying the taxes of the country you live in. It’s pretty straightforward and a valid choice.

            It’s not as if he doesn’t contribute to the UK. The team he works for – and is a critical part of – employs a large number of people, most (if not all of whom) are in the UK, who all pay taxes here.

            If I had the kind of money Lewis has, I would seriously consider living in Monaco, regardless of any tax situation.

          • matt90 (@matt90) said on 8th July 2014, 11:24

            How is that tax evasion? You pay taxes for the country you live in partly to cover your use of national services. If you live abroad then you aren’t using those services, so why on Earth should you still contribute taxes?

  11. HoHum (@hohum) said on 8th July 2014, 1:45

    @christiansylt, gives us Bernies history with digital media, I found several conclusions illogical not to mention that the headline seems inconsistent with the summation, the one thing that does shine through is that Bernie has lousy timeing.

  12. Mach1 (@mach1) said on 8th July 2014, 1:53

    Does Lewis have a “mind games” coach or something….?

    It was fantastic to see Lewis win on Sunday but again Lewis seems to be distracting himself by trying to “play mind games” with rosberg and at the same time it seems to end up confusing and distracting him more than it does Rosberg.

    The Monaco debacle seemed to leave him very paranoid about his place in the team or rather, his relationship with the team, and just when you think he has turned a corner….here we go again.

    Fine, he may be accurate in his assessment of Rosbergs nationality and we do not know what leading question he was asked but please Lewis, just drop the attempts at mind games and bloody drive!

  13. dpod (@dpod) said on 8th July 2014, 2:01

    Hamilton is “not really Focused” – dpod

  14. HoHum (@hohum) said on 8th July 2014, 2:16

    Niki Lauda is no dummey, Autosport have published a more complete less controversial account of his crticism of the delay in re-starting the race in which he suggests (as several of us have) a portable tyre barrier should have been quickly put in place and racing resumed within 15 minutes, I agree, portable tyre barriers have a long and effective history in motorsport, unfortunately the whole world works on a CYA basis.

  15. HoHum (@hohum) said on 8th July 2014, 2:29

    Sadly the formation lap is a problem for both ends of the grid, if the leaders speed up and the tail end slow down the leaders suffer sitting on the grid with engine temps riseing while their tyres are cooling.

    • petebaldwin (@petebaldwin) said on 8th July 2014, 12:00

      @hohum – Surely the solution to be fair to everyone is to say that at the safety car line, you have to line up 2 by 2 and drive to your grid spot. All your burnouts etc have to be done before then and you all drive to the grid together?

      • PeterG said on 8th July 2014, 13:43

        There are many tracks where that wouldn’t be possible because the final corners are to tight to allow them to run 2 wide.

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