Rosberg is “not really German” – Hamilton

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Lewis Hamilton, Nico Rosberg, Mercedes, Red Bull Ring, 2014In the round-up: Lewis Hamilton says the upcoming German Grand Prix is not a true home race for team mate Nico Rosberg.


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Hamilton: Rosberg is not German (The Guardian)

“He never stood by a German flag. He is German-Finnish-Monaco-esque, or whatever.”

FIA made right calls on Vettel/Alonso fight, says Horner (Adam Cooper’s F1 Blog)

“Charlie [Whiting] pointed out a couple of times track limits to Seb, and Alonso got a warning flag, which was for track limits. The problem is when you’ve got run-off like that, and it’s quicker, drivers are going to want to abuse it.”

Williams surprised by pace (Sky)

Rob Smedley: “My opinion of him is growing week by week. I think he’s a very, very good driver and he can become an exceptional driver. We’re lucky to have him.”

Massa wants crackdown on Merc’s formation laps (ESPN)

“The FIA say we can’t go so slow but they didn’t do anything or penalise anyone. I think if they penalise one car for that by giving them a five grid penalty for the next race, everything will change.”

Lauda critical of Raikkonen’s driving (Autosport)

“He went wide, so why does he come in balls out and then crash? Hopefully nothing happened [to hurt him], but it was unnecessary.”

France pursues Swiss firm over alleged theft of Schumacher’s medical records (The Telegraph)

“The email offers were signed off with the name Kagemusha – a Japanese term translated literally as ‘Shadow Warrior’ and the title of a 1980 film about a petty thief who stands in for a wounded samurai warlord. More recently the emails were signed off ‘Jeremy Martin’.”

Change underway at Ferrari, says Mattiacci (Reuters)

“Starting from here we need to prepare a different team for 2015. Do we need to do an announcement? No. Do we need to improve? Continuous improvement, yes. That is our position.”

Why Formula One Doesn’t Need To Change Its Social Media Strategy (Forbes)

“Very few if any other sports give as much access to the media and literally let them sit next to the superstar athletes as they relax and discuss the day’s events with their bosses in their locker rooms. F1 fans don’t have this luxury but social media does.”


Comment of the day

Adam takes issue with Niki Lauda’s view that the barrier Raikkonen hit didn’t need replacing but it was unlikely to be hit a second time.

As unlikely as it is for someone else to crash there, the chance cannot be taken. One hour of waiting (and Silverstone making tons of money off of extra beers being sold) is well worth helping to ensure the safety of both the drivers and the marshals. Just look at the BTCC at Thruxton this year, that could have been really ugly, especially the driver (I forget who it was) that used the damaged barrier to launch into the air.

An argument could be made for speeding up the marshals by having them practice replacing elements off the barriers, but who knows how hard it was to disassemble the damaged guardrail.

There is a reason F1 hasn’t had a fatality during a grand prix weekend since 1994, and that is because the FIA do a good job monitoring all of the minor details when it comes to safety. There isn’t much the FIA do right, but safety is certainly one of the few things they have right.

Except for the excessive asphalt run-off areas. If there was a gravel trap there, the accident wouldn’t have happened the way it did. And drivers would not complain about track limits as much either.
Adam Blocker (@Blockwall2)

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On this day in F1

F1’s only race around the streets of Dallas was held 30 years ago today. In brutal heat the track fell to pieces, and Keke Rosberg emerged on top of a three-way scrap with Nigel Mansell and Alain Prost to give Williams their only win of the season, and their first with Honda power.

Mansell’s gearbox failed him just metres from the finishing line. He tried to push his Lotus across the line, but collapsed in the heat. He was classified sixth, three laps down, scoring one point.

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205 comments on Rosberg is “not really German” – Hamilton

  1. monaco73 said on 8th July 2014, 10:35

    Lewis just can’t help it can he and he risks making himself look foolish to be honest, with another dig at Nico, or a comment that doesn’t come out right. I mean what’s the point of it? Nico was born in Germany, his mother is German, and he has a German-Finnish passport. He is a German national by most standards, races under that nationality and has done for years.

    His dad, Keke has had very little to do with Finland since the 1980’s, being was born in Sweden, but came to Finland when he was a toddler (as was common in those days) and lived in an area which is about as Finnish as you can get. But, Nico has had zero to do with Finland, doesn’t speak Finnish and has no connection with the country.

    Nico can’t really help the fact he was shipped to Monaco, where he grew up and went to school and lives today. Of course he regards Monaco as his home and he is certainly regarded as a local boy in the Principality. Half the F1 field could claim Monaco as their home race, as so many of them live there!

    To jut say Nico’s home race isn’t at really at Germany might have been better, but to say he isn’t German is just silly. On the week Nico is getting married, on the run up to the Grand Prix, Lewis isn’t doing very well in the PR department. It’s just makes a mess, it’s not even mind-games or trying to get a psychological advantage. Mercedes must be happy too.

    • Dan said on 8th July 2014, 12:07

      Read the full text of Hamilton’s remarks, and their jokey context, and calm down. This overreaction is the reason why journalists put topspin on their articles. It’s so easy to get fans frothing at the mouth over Hamilton. Just look at how many comments this thread has generated within a few hours! Can you imagine the furore if the schoolgirl spat between Alonso and Vettel had been between Hamilton and Rosberg???? God, it doesn’t bear thinking about …

      • Robbie (@robbie) said on 8th July 2014, 12:56

        Jokey or not LH is not being very sensitive to the fact that he himself is driving for a German team that is about to enjoy the extra marketability of racing in Germany, and he himself should also be a part of the busier media week like he experienced ahead of Silverstone, not just NR. But rather in his ‘jokey’ answers he has chosen to make it about questioning NR’s nationality, again, while driving for a German team that may well see him with another WDC this year, to go along with the other WDC he won with a German powered car.

        What would have been wrong with answering the question, no matter how it was worded…’Nico has German heritage in his blood so this is going to be a great weekend for the whole team to be back racing in it’s home country.’

  2. Fitzroyalty (@fitzroyalty) said on 8th July 2014, 11:19

    I was fascinated by the interview with Niki Lauda where he said the Mercedes drivers don’t come to him for advice. Hamilton would be wise to talk to Dr Lauda about head management.

  3. MazdaChris (@mazdachris) said on 8th July 2014, 12:02

    Lewis might want to keep in mind that Rosberg is as German as Lewis is black..

    • paulguitar said on 8th July 2014, 12:18

      What does that mean?

      • MazdaChris (@mazdachris) said on 8th July 2014, 12:22

        Hamilton identifies as a black driver. He is proud to be the first black driver in F1. But his mother is white – he’s mixed race. However I can’t see anyone, jokingly or otherwise, publicly questioning his right to describe himself as black. Why is it ok for him to question Rosberg’s right to identify himself as German?

        There are a large number of black people who feel very resentful about mixed race people identifying as black and claiming achievements on behalf of black people.

        • Dan said on 8th July 2014, 12:31

          You’ve just told me all I need to know to disregard any comment you ever make in future. Disgraceful.

          • MazdaChris (@mazdachris) said on 8th July 2014, 12:35

            Er… ok? I don’t really understand your position. I’m simply pointing out that if someone like Rosberg (or anyone for that matter) were to publically question Hamilton’s right to identify as black, then there would (rightly?) be outrage. And yet Hamilton saying Rosberg isn’t really German on the basis that he’s only half German, is apparently fine.

            The question of whether or not mixed race people should identify as black is, in my opinion, one for black people to answer and not something I really have an opinion on.

        • Michael (@freelittlebirds) said on 8th July 2014, 14:00

          @MazdaChris Mixed race people??? Do you mean that my kids who are half Asian half Caucasian should not be allowed to identify with any of their parents races?

          I think you should issue an apology here to the many people that your post has offended.

          Read the article and you’ll see that Lewis concedes that Monaco and Germany are Nico’s home turf. He’s just pointing to the fact that he didn’t know that until recently as Nico would stand under the flag of Monaco always. He’s not saying anything that the Germans don’t already know – Nico Rosberg is as German as Pete Sampras is Greek and as Zinedine Zidane is Algerian.

          • MazdaChris (@mazdachris) said on 8th July 2014, 14:17

            I don’t feel I have any responsibility for highlighting opinions of other people which I have made pretty clear are not my own.

            My wife is mixed race and her perspective is to take on board all of the positive things about her racial and cultural heritage. In the same way that I embrace both my Irish and my English background. But she doesn’t fully identify as either of her racial backgrounds, but sees herself more of an amalgamation of the two. My personal opinion is that people should take whatever they wish from their lineage, regardless, and that it’s something that’s personal to you and not something that people have any right to claim.

            But I can also understand specifically the reason why black people feel that they are disempowered by people who are not from a fully black background claiming ownership of achievements on behalf of black people.

            It’s an absolute minefield, and a hugely controversial subject which I find fascinating given my background. I’m just very surprised that Hamilton would take the stance that Rosberg shouldn’t identify as German because he isn’t fully German, while at the same time identifying as black when he isn’t fully black. The two viewpoints seem to be conflicting.

            But of course if you’d like to just have a kneejerk reaction about my post and make assumptions about me and my background. Go right ahead. I’m not apologising for offense you’ve conjured up out of nothing, however.

          • I find your remarks offensive, Michael, and think you should apologize for them.

            Nico Rosberg is as German as Pete Sampras is Greek and as Zinedine Zidane is Algerian.

            Or as Hamilton is British.

          • The Abbinator (@abbinator) said on 9th July 2014, 1:24

            Chip on shoulder, anyone? Watch out or it will be handbags at dawn… I see where MazdaChris is coming from and agree about the inherent hypocrisy in Ham’s position, but surely you’ve hot to realise the “not really black” or “not really British” comments will be all some people see… The best thing to do us to stop using labels to describe people, as the lines have become rather blurred in the last 50-100 years as an inevitable result of European colonisation in the 18th century to present…

  4. Miko-Jarvinen (@miko-jarvinen) said on 8th July 2014, 12:19

    Lewis is right. He is half Finnish and Half German that has lived many years in Monaco.
    But Lewis, you are not 100% British either.

    • beneboy (@beneboy) said on 8th July 2014, 14:34

      Nobody is 100% British, we’re all descendants of immigrants.

      Cpt Darling: I’m as British as Queen Victoria !
      Cpt Blackadder: So your father’s German, you’re half German and you married a German ?

  5. mattshaw85 (@mattshaw85) said on 8th July 2014, 12:30

    The British Monaco resident with an american twang suggesting his Monaco residing neighbour isn’t German. Superb.

  6. What is nationality? Is it where you were born? Is it where you have lived for most of your life? Is it what your passport says you are? Is it where your father/mother/grandparents were from?

    It’s a strange concept.

    • BasCB (@bascb) said on 8th July 2014, 14:38

      I’d say its based on a mix of the culture you grew up in/identify with, including language and where your family comes from/is based and passport that more or less confirms it.

  7. Slava (@slava) said on 8th July 2014, 12:49

    If Ferrari is so keen on improving the team I am curious if they are going to replace that terrible pull-rod front suspension with normal and adjustable push-rod suspension.
    It is horrible to see Rai struggling with the front of the car due to this. The Red Bull cars had the best aero package without such aerodynamic gimmick. So what is the reason to be the one team to use that if only 2 drivers (Alo and Ham, I assume) will be able to extract driveability from that?

  8. Daniel (@collettdumbletonhall) said on 8th July 2014, 14:04

    Reuters make it pretty clear Lewis is joking though.

  9. Corrado (@corrado-dub) said on 8th July 2014, 14:13

    LOL ! And what’s his problem with Rosberg’s nationality, under what flag he’s racing, playing football etc ? Just bla bla bla…

  10. Rigi (@rigi) said on 8th July 2014, 15:06

    this brings up a topic i don’t really lke. tax avoidance by drivers. don’t like it when drivers move to ‘tax havens’ like switzerland or monaco.

    as i’m swiss, i know how the system works for a normal person and also for celebrities. (i presume it’s the same in other countries, but i’ll give a quick explanation nontheless)

    for normal people: a person with a yearly income of 90’000 CHF will have to pay app. 7-8% of it, depending on the persons marital status, they’ll have to pay more or less. they say you always need to assume you’ll have to pay one monthly income for your taxes.

    celebrities: get flat-rate taxes, for example let’s assume bernie ecclestone has a yearly income of 500 million CHF (est.), for which he would have to pay 7-8% of it for his taxes. but since the town he lives in gets a lot of money from him anyway, they make themselves look good by offering him a unique tax-contract, saying he doesn’t have to pay the 40 million CHF a normal person would have to. instead he just haves to pay 15 million (est.) every year and bernie of course thinks “well, if any town wants to have my 15 millions, let’s have them fight for it and see how low the offers will get.” the town still gets 15 million CHF more than they would without bernie living there. that’s a definition of “tax haven”.

    this is how the system works and why switzerland has a lot of international celebrities living in it. that and a beautiful scenery, of course :)

    i think that’s wrong however. why do you deny your (so-called) home country the money they’d get from you? and what gives you the right to still race under that flag if you don’t even live there anymore? this is a problem i’ve been having for a long time, since i started watching f1 in 2001 and lead to the first driver i disliked because of the tax dodge, michael schumacher.

    • John H (@john-h) said on 8th July 2014, 18:46

      I agree with you, but pretty much all the drivers do it. I’d like to think I’d stay in the Uk and pay 40% if I ever earnt what Hamilton does, but who knows. Even everyone’s best mate Jenson Button is a tax dodger, but you know its much easier for everyone to pick on Hamilton.

      It’s a shame that society doesn’t create people that feel they should pay something back. Nobody earnt it without some help from the state in earlier life, including Hamilton and Button.

  11. CarlD said on 8th July 2014, 15:18

    When answering questions from a pen journalist/reporter one never knows how one’s word are going to be rendered on paper. In the best of cases, it is very difficult to convey tones, inflections, emphasis, accents and nonverbal gestures in a written piece.

    On top of this, many readers are not rigorous while reading and misinterpret what is written or miss the point entirely.

    It is written in the article that in an interview previous to the race, Nico Rosberg felt that Silverstone was more Mercedes’ home race -being 8 kilometers away from the track- than Lewis’.

    Therefore the stimulus for depriving Nico of a claim to the German Grand Prix.

    Such a storm in a cup of tea!

  12. Scepter (@scepter) said on 8th July 2014, 16:31

    Ha Ha Ha! i love it, Lewis has to be the wind-up merchant of all time, im amazed the ease at which he gets his detractors all bent out of shape, what we are witnessing here is a true masterclass, and there are people who still believe he doesn’t know how to play mind games, Chapeau to you sir.

  13. ferrox glideh (@ferrox-glideh) said on 8th July 2014, 16:53

    Homo-sapiens from the planet Earth say the strangest things…

  14. Uzair Syed (@ultimateuzair) said on 8th July 2014, 17:19

    Even though Lewis does have a point, and I am a Lewis fan, he should have worded his sentences better as that sounds a little rude!

  15. Michael Brown (@) said on 8th July 2014, 20:40

    Tarmac run offs are safer than gravel and grass but they bring the issue of drivers abusing the limits.

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