Felipe Massa, Williams, Hockenheimring, 2014

Magnussen should have backed off, says Massa

2014 German Grand PrixPosted on Author Keith Collantine

Felipe Massa, Williams, Hockenheimring, 2014Felipe Massa said Kevin Magnussen could have avoided their collision on the first lap if the McLaren driver had backed off.

The Williams driver was tipped into a dramatic roll at the first corner after the pair made contact.

“Going into the first corner I was near to Valtteri but had to back off to stop an accident, sadly some others didn’t do the same,” said Massa. “I am obviously very disappointed.”

“Luckily I am ok but I am not happy,” he added. “I was in front going into the corner, and so to have another race ended by another driver is not easy.”

“I am doing my best, the team are doing their best, and we just aren’t getting the chances we need.”

Magnussen insisted he did everything he could to avoid the contact.

“I need to see a replay of the accident, but I feel that, if I’d had somewhere to go, then there wouldn’t have been contact with Felipe,” he said. “I did my best to try and avoid the accident, but there wasn’t much else I could do.”

No penalties were issued for the collision after the stewards ruled Massa had been keeping an eye on team mate Valtteri Bottas before the clash with the McLaren.

“The stewards took into account that this was the first turn of the first lap, cars 77 [Bottas], 19 [Massa] and 20 [Magnussen] were entering turn one and it appears [Massa] was concentrating on [Bottas],” they said in a statement.

“There was no intentional turning in by [Massa] on [Magnussen],” they added. “[Massa’s] rear right wheels impacted with the left front of [Magnussen].”

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  1. I think Magnussen did incredibly well off the start. A driver with GP2 mentality would’ve dived down the inside of bottas, but he backed out of it and slotted in behind bottas and on the inside of massa, who simply didn’t pay attention to that. Some would call it a racing incident, but i believe Massa should’ve got a penalty for causing a collision. He’s just wasting so much of Wliliams’ potential it’s unreal. I’m starting to feel that he’s just not up to the driving standarts of f1 anymore. Consider that Bottas only has one and a half season of F1 experience, you’d think Massas experience would help him to be in front of Bottas, but so far Bottas has outperformed Massa most of the time. Just shows that he’s simply an average driver, who has become a pay-driver now.

    It’s interesting to see that Magnussen still ended up P9, one wonders what he could’ve done if it wasn’t for that first corner incident.

    1. If I were Claire Williams, I would ditch Massa and take Hulkenberg back.

      1. I would take Magnussen

        1. I have a feeling that Ron wont let that happen anytime soon.

    2. Agree… but I think this is how Massa was all the time. The way this season develops for him I think it’s proof enough that all the talking about Ferrari “destroying” him mentaly, psychologically etc with the no.2 status… was just BS ! Now he’s with a new team, with a team that recovered from a long time of mediocre results and that offered equal treatment to their drivers… yet again Massa racecraft is quite poor. Look at Austrian GP again, he started from pole, but finished 4th, behind his team mate. Kinda pathetic given his opinion about himself as a driver.

  2. “Going into the first corner I was near to Valtteri but had to back off to stop an accident,” – certainly didn’t look like he was backing off there IMO. I thought he just hadn’t seen Magnussen inside.

    But if he did see him then he should have backed off instead of trying to go to the inside there.

  3. It’s 99% Massa’s fault and maybe 1% Magnussen’s fault. Magnussen was much faster off the line and had the inside line, he even backed off a little. Massa just turned in on him and ruined his and Magnussen’s race! Just shut up and drive Massa you careless Maldonadoist. Well that’s a new word xD

    1. He should have backed of even more.
      He was behind.
      What you’re saying is that on that crash with Hamilton and Maldonado a few years ago, nearly identical to this one, Maldonado was to blame. Wrongo.

      1. A typical Massa fan comment :P

  4. I think it was a racing incident. Massa tried to leave a bit of space, he didn’t go straight for the apex, but it wasn’t enough. Turn one is a difficult corner, everyone is so close at the start, I think that accidents like that can happen, no need to blame people.

    Having said that, it’s the second time this year that a car has flipped due to wheel to wheel contact. I expect that there will be discussions about improving the safety in these situations.

  5. I like and support Massa, but it’s entirely his fault. A racing incident, quite scary though. If anything had to stand in the path of his car, any debris, it would go straight on the helmet.

  6. This is racing and sometimes a driver need to be rough.
    If Massa leaves room for MAG there and looses the position, he would be to blame anyway. This is still a fighting for position.
    Magnussen should have backed off. He was clearly behind on the approach to the corner.
    You can’t go expecting everyone to leave space to you in a RACE.
    A driver must know when to keep going or not.

    1. I guess you will never say this line for the Perez-Massa collision in CA. Fan or not, accept it and move on…

      “This is still a fighting for position.”

      1. Why instead of telling me your point you keep talking about this childish thing of being a fan?
        I’m not Massa’s fan, this is my opinion.

        You could give yours or start talking crap about fans. You made your choice.

    2. And backing off, as some already said, would mean collision with cars from behind.. So, well MAG hardly a choice.

      1. Yeah, and the guys behind MAG don’t have brakes themselves?
        Think about what you write friend.

        1. You clearly are a Massa fan Edvaldo :) And that is only fair, but don´t say that FM and KM weren´t in the corner at the same time… Look at the helicoptershots… FM just doesn´t leave room and drives as if he is alone in the 1 corner of the race… Clearly a stupid mistake…. Like he made a ton of times in his own first season…

  7. When Massa can say things like this, he most be living in his own world.
    It makes Massa a joke and any team as well that hire such an crashguy….

  8. I didn’t like the way Massa was complaining that these young drivers come in from GP2 and do stuff. He should learn to start accepting his mistakes. I have never seen him admit even once . it is always somebody else’s fault. With a field growing lush with young talent, he should better watch out. Sir Williams won’t be patient for a long time.

  9. Massa as been often on the eye of the storm but (he sais) never is his fault… i’m starting to see a pattern there, always playing victim and never assuming resposability. I would like to see Susie doing some racing on that car!

  10. I am shocked at people blaming Massa. Just wow, im the first to have pops at him like of youre to slow Massa but look at Massa’s onboard. KMag nose was not even in shot, you either blame no one or you blame Mag it is that simple. Was Mag alongside? No he was not.

    1. Please, Mag was on racing line! Race start is not queuing up to see whose nose is ahead of whom so that they can line up going into a corner.

    2. in a first corner if you are on the outside line, you leave a cars width on the inside just incase… its called self preservation and you learn it in karting. you cant win the race at the first corner, but you can deffinately lose it.

  11. Massa is the biggest cry baby F1 has ever seen! Every time it’s someone else. It’s never even a ‘racing incident’ with Massa, it’s ‘so and so is dangerous’, ‘so and so should have backed down’. Put him out to pasture, Frank.

  12. It was a racing incident. That is all.

  13. If you are on the outside of the first corner and you cut in to clip the apex on the first turn there will be a car there every time. Massa it’s time to retire before someone gets hurt. What is worse is if they don’t punish him he will go on believing that it’s never his fault.

  14. If Mag backed out he would of lost so many positions that it would be dangerous due to him having to slow to make the corner due to the angle of approach, he takes it either early and gets a penalty or does what he does and gets hit.

    Massa now needs to think about what is happening with his racing. Whilst he team mate is gaining plaudits and becoming a hero with racing fans, he has been in a many number of crashes which the large proportion of which are avoidable. Take Canada for example, he could of avoided that accident, saved him and Perez a trip to the hospital and gained some points.

    That being said, this little incident can either be seen as his fault or K-Mag’s fault. Massa was taking the normal line, all be it a little aggressive, so he is in the right. K-Mag had a great start which caused him problems and proved he wasn’t to blame because there was nothing he could do.

  15. What struck me was FM’s remark when they interviewed him about mid-race, presumably after he had been checked out by the medics. I’m paraphrasing and he said something to the effect that it is the responsibility of the guy behind to check up to avoid an incident. I’ve always thought that was the case in general, most of the time, as it is the guy behind who has the clearer vision of circumstances and has to assume the guy in front has the racing line or whatever line he has chosen, whatever real estate he has chosen, and it is up to the guy behind to adapt. The guy in front has only his mirrors and shouldn’t be expected to have as good a judgement on the whole interaction. He’s usually going to use the racing line or something close, and may also do his one move to defend, and then back to the racing line, and they are also to leave a car width for the guy behind.

    So what struck me immediately about Massa’s in-race interview was that if he expected KM to back off, then why didn’t he, FM, back off in Canada. Yeah I know umpteen stewards looked at it and still blamed Perez, but that doesn’t mean FM couldn’t have or shouldn’t have backed off to avoid a collision based on the same principal he would used to have KM back off in Germany.

  16. You can’t just assume there’s noone on your racing line.

  17. Angus Podgorney
    21st July 2014, 22:38

    Massa’s a whiner and a crash magnet.

  18. Kevin Magnussen clearly was in the corner when Massa chose to turn into it, as if no one else could be there. It is a typical Massa blunder one of many through out his career. Please resign now Massa, before you create more danger for yourself and others.

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