Rosberg on pole, Hamilton to start from back after fire

2014 Hungarian Grand Prix qualifying

Nico Rosberg, Mercedes, Hungaroring, 2014Nico Rosberg secured his third successive pole position at Hungary after Lewis Hamilton failed to set a single timed lap due to a fiery engine failure in Q1.

Sebastian Vettel will line up alongside the championship leader on the front row, with Valtteri Bottas and Daniel Ricciardo behind them on the second row of the grid.

Q1

Qualifying began with a dry track, but with the threat of rain hanging in the air as thick dark clouds gathered overhead.

Pastor Maldonado was the first car on circuit, but almost immediately there were problems with the Lotus which slowed to a crawl exiting Turn 15 and was forced off the circuit just before the entry to pit lane.

But then, there was even greater drama as Lewis Hamilton’s Mercedes was suddenly ablaze. With flames shooting out of the rear of the car, Hamilton was forced to stop in the entrance to pit lane, his session over just as soon as it had begun.

With his championship rival doomed to a back row start, Nico Rosberg set the fastest time of the session, a 1’25.227 on the Medium tyres. Jean-Eric Vergne then lowered the fastest time with a 1’24.941.

With two cars eliminated, there was an opportunity for one of the ‘back four’ drivers to steal a place into Q2. As the chequered flag flew, Nico Hulkenberg was on the cusp of dropping out of qualifying in P16, but the Force India driver was able to improve to 12th with the help of the Soft tyres.

That left Kimi Raikkonen vulnerable with the Ferrari driver now in P16 and with the Finn in the pits, Jules Bianchi stunned the thousands of Finnish fans in attendance by knocking the former world champion out.

Kamui Kobayashi, Max Chilton and Marcus Ericsson were also duly eliminated, leaving Lewis Hamilton and Pastor Maldonado to start from the final row of the grid for tomorrow’s race.

Drivers eliminated in Q1

Row 9 17. Kimi Raikkonen 1’26.792
Ferrari
18. Kamui Kobayashi 1’27.139
Caterham
Row 10 19. Max Chilton 1’27.819
Marussia
20. Marcus Ericsson 1’28.643
Caterham
Row 11 21. Lewis Hamilton No time
Mercedes
22. Pastor Maldonado No time
Lotus

Q2

The second session started in slightly warmer and brighter conditions than the first as the threat of rain appeared to be subsiding.

The two Force India drivers were the first drivers on track, but their initial lap times were quickly eclipsed by Daniil Kvyat’s Toro Rosso.

With all the top teams now on Soft tyres, Nico Rosberg set the quickest time of the weekend with a 1’23.310, almost seven tenths quicker than Valtteri Bottas’s first attempt in the Williams.

Red Bull’s first efforts proved better than the Williams’, but both Sebastian Vettel and Daniel Ricciardo were three tenths adrift of the Mercedes.

With six minutes remaining,Sergio Perez’s session was ended by a hydraulic leak – a problem that had hit his team mate Nico Hulkenberg in third practice.

The track fell silent until just over three minutes remaining, with both Force Indias, Saubers, Romain Grojean’s Lotus and Bianchi’s Marussia all set to be eliminated, with Vergne, Jenson Button and Daniil Kvyat occupying the final spots for Q3.

Felipe Massa improved his best time to help guarantee his place in the final session, as Nico Hulkenberg jumped into Q3 with a 1’24.647.

With the chequered flag out, Daniil Kvyat spun his Toro Rosso on the entry to Turn 12, leaving his car stranded on the outside of the corner and forcing double yellow flags, ruining any chances of last minute improvement.

Hulkenberg’s gain was Kvyat’s loss as the Force India only just held on to tenth. Vergne and Magnussen also secured a place into Q3, while Sutil, Perez, Gutierrez, Grosjean and Bianchi were all eliminated.

Drivers eliminated in Q2

Row 6 11. Daniil Kvyat 1’24.706
Toro Rosso
12. Adrian Sutil 1’25.136
Sauber
Row 7 13. Sergio Perez 1’25.211
Force India
14. Esteban Gutierrez 1’25.260
Sauber
Row 8 15. Romain Grosjean 1’25.337
Lotus
16. Jules Bianchi 1’27.419
Marussia

Q3

Ahead of the crucial final session, the umbrellas began to appear in the grandstands as rain drops began to fall around the circuit.

With the circuit not due to stay dry for very long, the was an immediate rush out on to the track as the session began with all drivers looking to try and set a time on Soft tyres before the circuit became too wet to improve.

Nico Rosberg was the first man across the line and arrived at the braking zone of Turn 1 to find that the rain was now streaming onto the track, causing him to miss the first corner entirely and creep around the tarmac run-off on his Soft tyres.

Behind him, however, Kevin Magnussen was not so lucky. The McLaren rookie found no traction into the now wet braking zone on his dry tyres and speared straight into the barriers, putting him out of the session and causing the session to be stopped. Magnussen climbed out of the car uninjured.

While the teams waited for the session to be resumed with ten minutes remaining, the rain stopped. Rosberg ventured out first once more with another set of Soft dry tyres and posted a very cautious 1’26.488 with his first banker lap, which was immediately beaten by Daniel Ricciardo, who was then eclipsed by over a second by Valtteri Bottas’s 1’24.259.

With just under five minutes to go and with no more threat of any further rain, Sebastian Vettel stormed to provisional pole by over eight tenths with a 1’23.415. But that did not last long as Nico Rosberg snatched back the top spot by just under two tenths with his first truly flying lap of the session.

As all nine remaining cars set out for their final attempts, the battle for pole looked to be a straight fight between Rosberg and Vettel, but Valtteri Bottas suddenly leapt up into second by just under a tenth in the Williams.

Sebastian Vettel’s final effort was good enough to take provisional pole as the chequered flag fell, but it was not to be for the reigning champion as Nico Rosberg’s final lap was good enough to secure him his third successive pole at the death.

Valtteri Bottas and Daniel Ricciardo will share the second row of the grid, with former team mates Fernando Alonso and Felipe Massa behind them. Jenson Button will line up seventh, ahead of Jean-Eric Vergne and Nico Hulkenberg in ninth.

Top ten in Q3

Row 1 1. Nico Rosberg 1’22.715
Mercedes
2. Sebastian Vettel 1’23.201
Red Bull
Row 2 3. Valtteri Bottas 1’23.354
Williams
4. Daniel Ricciardo 1’23.391
Red Bull
Row 3 5. Fernando Alonso 1’23.909
Ferrari
6. Felipe Massa 1’24.223
Williams
Row 4 7.
Jenson Button 1’24.294
McLaren
8. Jean-Eric Vergne 1’24.720
Toro Rosso
Row 5 9. Nico Hulkenberg 1’24.775
Force India
10. Kevin Magnussen No time
McLaren

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257 comments on Rosberg on pole, Hamilton to start from back after fire

  1. cpeterip said on 26th July 2014, 14:26

    Hamilton to Ferrari for 2015. Limy to Redbull vetted to merc !
    It is not a conspiracy but something has to be wrong with Hamilton car preparation. Maybe they use mercedes apprentices? But in the long run terrible pressure for Hamilton & it better he look for a team that supports him

    • Vetted?

      Limy?

    • Eric (@) said on 26th July 2014, 15:04

      I seriously doubt Hamilton is even considering Ferrari at this moment. The only thing they’ve got going for them is reliability…

      Oh wait.

      Seriously though. Hamilton wants to win WDC’s. It’s not looking likely that Ferrari will be able to provide him with a chance to win one. McLaren might just get lucky with a Honda engine. So if he goes and changes teams again he’ll more likely go back to McLaren.
      But I doubt it. The Mercedes is class of the field by a considerable margin on every track. The car is more dominant than the Red Bull has ever been in the past four years. And with aero as restricted as it currently is and engine development as good as frozen I don’t see any other team being class of the field for the next couple of years.

      • sonia luff (@sonia54) said on 26th July 2014, 17:06

        If he goes back to Mclaren we’ve already had the conspiracy theories there when Jenson was beating him.Seems like Hammy fans are going to have conspiracy theories where ever he drives if he gets beat by his team mate. Maybe it’s Gods will that he’s only to win 1 WC lol

        • Eric (@) said on 27th July 2014, 10:54

          @sonia54

          It does seem like it. If Hamilton wins the general response is that he’s the second coming of Senna. If he looses, it’s because the team is obviously sabotaging him…

  2. James said on 26th July 2014, 14:27

    The conspiracy theorists will love this. Honestly though, Hamilton has been incredibly unlucky, but then I look back over the years and Jean-Eric Vergne has always had far more mechanical failures than his team mates, but no one ever said Torro Rosso were sabotaging his car. If we compare Vergne and Hamilton, they both have quite aggressive driving styles, whilst the likes of Ricciardo and Rosberg may be less demanding on the car. I’m purely speculating, for all I know it may just be bad luck, but to get bad luck consistently could be due to an underlying cause.

    • David (@neiana) said on 26th July 2014, 14:36

      This is my argument and belief. Hamilton is simply more aggressive. Was Webber more aggressive, as well?

      • PeterG said on 26th July 2014, 14:48

        Something that people always ignored when looking at Mark Webber’s unreliability at Red Bull & insisting the team were sabotaging his car was that Mark had always had more reliability issues than his team mates regardless of what team he raced for.

        It was the same for Rubens Barrichello, Everyone complained Ferrari were sabotaging Rubens races, Yet this again ignored that Rubens suffered from a lot of unreliability at Jordan & Stewart before joining Ferrari & it was the same after he left Ferrari.

      • James said on 26th July 2014, 14:48

        I wouldn’t say Webber was, I think the issue with Webber was that he was relatively large so I think it was more to do with tighter packaging causing overheating issues and KERS failures.

      • Guy (@sudd) said on 26th July 2014, 14:52

        The funny thing is most people that are constantly making fun of the “conspiracy theorists,” as they have come to be known would not accept this sort of thing in their personal lives. I’m not accusing Mercedes of anything, but only a fool would brush off so many incidences as “bad luck” or coincidences. Crazier things have happened in the history of F1.

        When you start to invent alternative reasons for why failures occur like blaming the driver for being hard on his equipment, you’re just searching for a scapegoat.

        • David (@neiana) said on 26th July 2014, 15:00

          @sudd You literally just said that looking for a realistic answer is looking for a scapegoat. This is why our world is so ridiculous!

          If someone goes out and drives angry on the highways they are more likely to end up using more fuel (petrol?) and being involved in an accident. So if we decided to take 21 calm drivers and 1 angry driver you end up with Maldonado often causing accidents. Well.. why should we blame the driver for how he drives? You just said that was searching for a scapegoat…

          because saying someone in the garage is messing with Hamilton’s car is clearly not searching for a scapegoat.

        • matt90 (@matt90) said on 26th July 2014, 18:17

          only a fool would brush off so many incidences as “bad luck” or coincidences

          Yeah, because 4 whole issues in a season, compared to 2 for his team mate, is a big number. That’s a huge 2 more reliability problems- such a vast number clearly means something has to be going on. There’s no way that could logically be down to luck or coincidence. None whatsoever. But of course, you aren’t accusing Mercedes of anything, and neither am I. So I guess that only leaves Cthulhu.

      • Dan said on 26th July 2014, 14:58

        Yes he is so agressive his brakes failed in Q1 last race, and today it starts a fire… You’re argument makes sense for 1 race, which is Canada

        • Guy (@sudd) said on 26th July 2014, 15:37

          @Dan, and even if we cut him some slack and attribute the Canada failure to the driver being harder on his equipment, we still have a more logical explanation: Cooling! Even if Hamilton pushed his equipment to EXACTLY the same level as Rosberg, he would get hit harder because he is trailing in hotter/dirtier air. And we all know both cars allegedly had the same failure. What I couldn’t understand was how Mercedes could not see what was around the corner with all the sensors on the car. Rosberg’s engineers were managing his temps long before the failure to MGU occurred.

      • Rick said on 26th July 2014, 15:19

        So, if Hamilton is more aggressive then how come he always uses less fuel than Rosberg ? And how come Hamilton tends to be able to make his tyres last longer than Rosberg ?

      • Webber did not have more car problems than Vettel.

  3. David Margono (@woshidavid95) said on 26th July 2014, 14:32

    I was supporting Rosberg over Hamilton but with all the bad luck the latter’s been getting, I honestly won’t be too unhappy if Hamilton wins by virtue of Abu Double… that is unless Rosberg gets his share of bad luck as well.

    • Eric (@) said on 27th July 2014, 10:59

      @woshidavid95

      It’s not Rosberg’s fault that Hamilton is having bad luck.

      • David Margono (@woshidavid95) said on 27th July 2014, 11:03

        @baron-2

        Nope, but not the point… I’m just saying that should such a scenario occur, it would almost be poetic justice because if you take out reliability issues, Hamilton would be the one ahead.

        • Eric (@) said on 27th July 2014, 11:15

          @woshidavid95

          Maybe he would but we won’t know. And even if he would be ahead he wouldn’t be ahead by much. Both of them deserve the championship equally.

          • David Margono (@woshidavid95) said on 27th July 2014, 13:35

            @baron-2

            Maybe he would but we won’t know.

            Do I really have to explain why this is false… anyway the point is Rosberg has by far been the luckier of the two Mercedes drivers and given the slender lead he has over Hamilton despite that, it goes without saying that up to this point, Hamilton has been the better driver… I may have to amend my opinion on this if Rosberg does start beating Hamilton on equal footing more often in the upcoming Grand Prixes but as of now I’m slightly miffed even though I prefer Rosberg over Hamilton.

  4. Dan said on 26th July 2014, 14:34

    Ham should change his mechanics, he really should. Bruno thinks cold be a mechanic fault

  5. Sven (@crammond) said on 26th July 2014, 14:35

    Bianchi in Q1 had both McClaren and Massa within the reach of 1.5 tenths, and (again) was 1.1 seconds faster than his teammate. So Raikkonen out in Q1 was not only a Ferrari-mistake, but also a very good lap by Bianchi, capitalising on that.

    Hopefully a good portion of mixed weather gives people the chance to fight with Rosberg. Also looking forward to Maldonado and Hamilton starting from the same row.

  6. Bianchi: I’ll be taking that Ferrari seat, if you don’t mind

    I had a dream this morning about the race. It’s raining, Magnussen leads from Button and Kobayashi, and the two Ferraris crashed into each other at the chicane.

  7. Fer no.65 (@fer-no65) said on 26th July 2014, 14:47

    Loved the spectators cheering at Seb as he set provisional pole.

    What a difference a year makes.

  8. medman (@medman) said on 26th July 2014, 14:48

    Mercedes is doing a bang up job destroying Hamilton’s chances for a championship….great job guys. The rate of failure on his car this year is completely unacceptable. Rosberg may win the championship by default, without really having to earn it, much the way Button did in the Brawn.

    • Sven (@crammond) said on 26th July 2014, 14:56

      Rosberg may win the championship by default, without really having to earn it, much the way Button did in the Brawn.

      Do you mean Button wasn´t better than Barrichello that year, or do you think always bringing home the points (even in the cold late-sommer races that year, when the Brawn wasn´t working and couldn´t bring tyres near the operating temperature) isn´t a feature that earns you something? Would it have been better if he threw in a couple of blunders and mistakes to make the championship more entertaining?

    • Bruno (@brunes) said on 26th July 2014, 14:56

      How can you possibly compare JB’s championship with Rosbergs?

      Button demolished Barrichello on track. I am Brazilian and I really cheered for RB but Jenson was way superior.

      • Bobby (@f1bobby) said on 26th July 2014, 22:06

        JB’s championship was well-earned. He outclassed Barrichello when it mattered and with parity in machinery he defended his lead and drove the race of his life in Brazil.

        Rosberg, on the other hand, is coasting while the other car in garage gets ****ed at every turn.

    • You mustn’t have seen 2009. Button had to resort to damage limitation to win the title, while Red Bull were charging in the second half. Barrichello had his chance in the Brawn and he finished third.

    • Guy (@sudd) said on 26th July 2014, 15:04

      @medman, it would feel very hollow. Winning the championship because the guy that was going to beat you kept suffering DNFs and reliability problems does not seem very satisfying.

      This is very different from the Vettel vs Webber battle. I know people keep bringing it up, but even on level playing field, we all know Webber was no match for Vettel. The year Vettel was suffering devastating DNFs, Webber still couldn’t win the title. Even though Webber was having more issues, the majority of us knew it wasn’t going to change the outcome if his car was more reliable. I’m not a RB fan nor a fan of Helmut Marko, but he was right in that Webber was good for two or three fantastic wins a year, then would fall off.

  9. Dan said on 26th July 2014, 14:55

    Standings when car was ahead this is upto Hockenheim before the qually incident.

    Hamilton 25 25 25 25 25 18 25 18

    Ros 18 18 18 18 18 25 18 25 25

    Gap will not look big because guys are top 2 all the time. But that table with cars ahead at time of ret, then last 2 Ham potentially loses a 17 point swing so no bad luck retirements Ham has been the better driver it is facts. We have not seen a merc overtake in race with drs and make it stick so woulda been good bet this would have happend.

    • Bruno (@brunes) said on 26th July 2014, 14:59

      “Ham has been the better driver it is facts”

      Why don’t you show us these facts?

      • Dan said on 26th July 2014, 15:03

        4 failures to 1, Ham has as many wins as Ros and is behind. I rest my case. It is 2 race retirement’s to 1 and 2 were he is out of Q1 on a track he is majestic at, a 7 point lead would look alot better than 20 plus don’t you agree?. You’re comment is wierd though you must know Ham deserves to be leading WC. Infact Hamilton as more wins than Nico.

        • Bruno (@brunes) said on 26th July 2014, 16:57

          Wins count for nothing if you are not consistent.
          Look at the 1982 Season. Keke ROSBERG won only ONE race and took the title.

          Nobody but Nico deserves to be leading the championship. Unfortunately that is how F1 is.
          Many “deserved” to have won championships, but they haven’t because they were not consistent

          • Bobby (@f1bobby) said on 26th July 2014, 22:08

            Keke is a weak WDC also. Keke himself can hardly believe he was the class of the field in ’82.

      • Bobby (@f1bobby) said on 26th July 2014, 22:07

        It’s plain to see. Hamilton is better than Rosberg. Take out reliability and he’s way out in front. Rosberg is so lucky it must be embarrassing for him.

  10. David (@neiana) said on 26th July 2014, 14:56

    I never really liked Hamilton. It started from way back when he was a rookie and essentially acted like he was the best driver on the grid. Very flippant, arrogant and pretentious and that’s why.

    Last qual I found myself happy that Hamilton crashed out of Q1. This week I find myself feeling sorry for him. At some point, everyone should feel for the guy. What was he thinking as he stood there and watched his car burn? Is this the first time in his F1 career where Lewis has had a good home life (or “outside of driving”) and it’s his car that fails him rather than his emotions?

    • Dan said on 26th July 2014, 15:00

      Nice comment from you it is truly sad to see, im sure he as a good life but he deserves a car that wont break many agree he is talented to be multiple champion. He looked broke watching his car burn must be frustrating, can you imagine what we be like i be cursing my team lol.

      • David (@neiana) said on 26th July 2014, 15:16

        I still prefer Nico over Hamilton but it’s so difficult to see this kind of result. Yes that image of him looking back at the car was a sad thing. If this was a few years ago , coupled with troubled relationships, who knows where he would be now? I think this year has really given him the opportunity to mature incredibly and I think he’s handling it much better now than even earlier in the season.
        He’s gone a long ways to help my opinion and some day I may cheer for him as a favorite, as well.

  11. Bruno (@brunes) said on 26th July 2014, 15:01

    Driving styles are proven to cause mechanical failures.

    Why can you guys not think Hamilton could be causing SOME of these failures?

    • I remember 2012, when he had lots of problems. Is it too much of a stretch to say that his driving might have caused these problems?

      • Dan said on 26th July 2014, 15:05

        lol a fire without setting a lap lol, and his brakes failing in Q1. No laps in Australia. Man one race is all you can bring up and it is Canada

    • Ed Marques (@edmarques) said on 26th July 2014, 15:07

      HAHAHA, yeah it’s all his fault. Ludicrous.

      • Dan said on 26th July 2014, 15:13

        I know right he even pushes hard in Q1 for his car to go on fire, his team knew in formation lap in Aus their was a problem, but he pushes too hard…

    • evered7 (@evered7) said on 26th July 2014, 15:13

      I honestly hope Hamilton doesn’t have anymore failures. This site is turning for the worse with all the conspiracy theorist taking it over.

      • Guy (@sudd) said on 26th July 2014, 15:52

        @evered7, I prefer the so called “conspiracy theorist” than gullible people who don’t question anything. Or people who would under normal circumstances question something but ignore it when its not convenient because they like the way things are playing out at the moment.

        • evered7 (@evered7) said on 26th July 2014, 16:13

          Or people who would under normal circumstances question something but ignore it when its not convenient because they like the way things are playing out at the moment.

          @sudd I could say the same about you. I don’t think you will be harping about it if Rosberg was the one having the issues.

          • Guy (@sudd) said on 26th July 2014, 16:19

            @evered7, then say it! I don’t have time for pussyfooting. Are we in second grade? Repeating what someone else said is not a valid argument.

          • Guy (@sudd) said on 26th July 2014, 16:46

            @evered7, No I wouldn’t be harping on about Rosberg. Rosberg fans would be the ones doing it. Just like Senna fans, Alonso fans, Webber fans, and Hamilton fans all suspected something. And I would understand their curiosity or suspicion. I would not be so dismissive.

            Many of things we take to be facts in science or history started off as theories. The people who posit those theories were ridiculed and labeled as “loonies” before they could be proven they were actually right. So think about that before you ridicule.

          • evered7 (@evered7) said on 26th July 2014, 18:40

            @sudd, come back when you have some ‘facts’. Until then it is simply Hamilton fans crying that the world is dark because their eyes are shut.

            Just because you have an alternate theory doesn’t mean you are necessarily right.

    • sonia luff (@sonia54) said on 26th July 2014, 17:14

      Well said Bruno

    • Max Jacobson (@vettel1) said on 26th July 2014, 19:23

      It could have caused him to retire in Canada whilst Rosberg was able to conserve the brakes, yes. Otherwise, not so much. Perhaps at a stretch Hockenheim but I wouldn’t say so.

  12. matt said on 26th July 2014, 15:03

    lewis pace in germany looked good enough to win,his pace in aus too,and his pace in hungary.if it was 1 dnf each,lewis would be leading the championship for sure.if nico wins the wdc this way,it wont be deserved imo.

  13. JohnBt (@johnbt) said on 26th July 2014, 15:04

    Bring Stefano Domenicali back, I don’t think that guy Marco should be there at all! Did you see how he just stomped off from Ted ‘no comment’, definitely not a team principle role he can handle, rather rude! Stefano would’ve answered with a smile that they made a mistake and take the criticism.

    Poor Lewis, what else is there to say. So let’s watch him cut through the field tomorrow, hopefully with no problem to his car.

  14. Ed Marques (@edmarques) said on 26th July 2014, 15:14

    Already seeing some jumping to defend Rosberg as worthy of his position. You know, Hamilton coming from 20th to 3rd is nothing because he’s got the fastest car, but Rosberg is a genius by always capitalizing os his teammate unfortunes. Well isn’t his car the fastest, or this only goes when we are talking about Hamilton?

    Ludicrous, it’s the 4th big falilure on Hamilton’s car.

  15. Mike said on 26th July 2014, 15:42

    Hamilton fans are having a meltdown again. Don’t worry he’ll probably finish in the top 3 again.

    • Guy (@sudd) said on 26th July 2014, 16:22

      @Mike, that’s not good enough for us. P1 is all that matters to us. The word you are looking for is “unsatisfied” not meltdown. I know some people would be over the moon with 3rd. Not us!

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