2014 mid-season F1 driver rankings part one: 22-13

Driver rankings

The F1 Fanatic Driver Rankings are being produced for the tenth time this year, and as usual they began with a review of how the field has fared at the mid-season point.

Here are the ten drivers in the bottom part of the list – look out for the rest in two further articles to be published later this week.

22. Marcus Ericsson

Marcus Ericsson, Caterham, Monte-Carlo, 2014Key stat: Completed the fewest racing laps of any driver so far – 466 of the 698 which have been run.

Sporting Ronnie Peterson’s helmet design in Monaco, Ericsson produced the best performance of his short F1 career to date, and gave Caterham their highest-ever finish with 11th place. Yes it was aided by retirements, but also by several of his rivals making the kind of errors he avoided, which is particularly impressive given the car he has to drive.

But that was the sole highlight of a rookie campaign which has otherwise left a lot to be desired, even when allowances are made for the serious shortcomings of his machinery. We’ve quickly grown accustomed to the sight of Ericsson climbing from the cockpit of his Caterham, for which Renault’s persistent reliability problems have only been partly to blame. Qualifying has been a particular problem – he crashed in Malaysia, Monaco (taking out Felipe Massa) and Canada – and binned it just seven laps into the last race.

21. Max Chilton

Key stat: Record run of consecutive finishes for a rookie ended in Canada – when he took out his team mate on the first lap

It’s not immediately obvious whether a year’s experience has helped Chilton raise his game all that much. He continues to be a safe pair of hands for the most part – with the obvious exception of Canada – but otherwise doesn’t distinguish himself with speed in qualifying or races.

When the chequered flag falls Chilton can usually be found a considerable distance behind his team mate and not that far ahead of Ericsson. It was telling that even when Bianchi limped home with a badly damaged floor in Hungary, Chilton still couldn’t find a way past his team mate.

20. Pastor Maldonado

Pastor Maldonado, Lotus, Shanghai International Circuit, 2014Key stat: The only driver to be issued three penalty points for a single incident, when he flipped Gutierrez in Bahrain

The same old Maldonado mistakes persist – the careless collision which put Gutierrez on his head, the clumsy spin into the barrier during qualifying in Spain. But the greater impediment to his performance this year has been the dreadful unreliability and unsympathetic handling of his Lotus.

Because of that he has been unable to set a time during Q1 on three occasions and sidelined with technical failures during races four times. He didn’t even start the race at Monaco, which is usually one of his strongest circuits. But team mate Romain Grosjean has been similarly afflicted by Lotus’s problems, and he has had the car running and finishing in higher positions.

19. Adrian Sutil

Key stat: Has finished ahead of Gutierrez more often than he has finished behind him, and vice-versa in qualifying

Sutil had a lot of trouble getting the Sauber beyond Q1 in the early part of the season, and the unco-operative chassis has rarely been a willing partner in the races either. Much of the first half of the season was an unrewarding grind, punctuated with notable lows in Monaco, where he crashed out, and Austria, where a communications error meant he was accidentally told to stop.

But a glimmer of hope appeared prior to the summer break. With FRIC now banned, Sauber seem a little more competitive, and Sutil came within a second of scoring their first point in Hungary.

18. Kamui Kobayashi

Key stat: Equalled Caterham’s best ever starting position – 14th – in Australia

After a year away, Kobayashi’s fan-funded comeback has produced only disappointment thanks largely to his uncompetitive car. Even in China, where he put one over Bianchi in the final laps, he had the incredible misfortune to be robbed of the result because the chequered flag was shown too soon.

In Monaco Bianchi caught him by surprise at Rascasse and pulled off a pass which eventually gave Marussia a valuable two-point lead over Caterham in the constructors’ championship. The team may rue Kobayashi not being a bit more aggressive on that occasion, but more often than not it’s been the car which has let him down.

17. Esteban Gutierrez

Esteban Gutierrez, Sauber, Circuit de Catalunya, 2014Key stat: Gained more places on lap one than any other driver: 26 (an average gain of 2.4 places)

Gutierrez has shown Sutil the way in qualifying and would probably have scored Sauber’s first points in Hungary had his energy recovery system not failed. Some poor luck also explains which his finishing record is not quite as good as his team mates – the collision with Maldonado in Bahrain, and Sauber’s pit error in Austria.

Yet it’s hard to shake the impression that, though the C33 is undoubtedly one of Sauber’s worst cars, it is capable of more than either of its drivers have extracted so far.

16. Felipe Massa

Key stat: Has retired on the first lap on three occasions

Massa has missed out on several points-scoring opportunities due to misfortune: he was blameless when he was hit by Ericsson during qualifying in Monaco, in his last-lap tangle with Sergio Perez at Montreal, and in the start-line crashes at Melbourne and Silverstone. But that’s not the whole explanation for why he has less than half his team mate’s points haul at mid-season.

On other occasions having started well he simply tried to make too much of the advantage, leading to tangles with Fernando Alonso in China and, most dramatically, with Kevin Magnussen in Germany. But most worrying for Massa are the increasingly common days when Valtteri Bottas has been just plain quicker than him.

15. Daniil Kvyat

Key stat: Toro Rosso is the only team where each driver has finished in front of the other the same number of times

There’s very little to choose between the Toro Rosso pair, and that reflects very well on the latest product of Red Bull’s junior driver programme. Despite a disrupted testing programme, including one day at Jerez when he didn’t get on the circuit at all, Kvyat scored in three of the first four races on unfamiliar tracks. He then used recent circuit experience to good effect at the Red Bull Ring, lining up seventh on the grid, only to be sidelined by one of Toro Rosso’s many car problems.

It hasn’t been all smooth sailing – he ruined his race in Germany with a rash move on Perez, and the Hungarian weekend was a complete write-off. But he has more than justified Red Bull’s surprise decision to promote him.

14. Kimi Raikkonen

Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari, Red Bull Ring, 2014Key stat: Sixth in Hungary was his best finish so far – Alonso has only finished lower than that once

Niggling problems during practice have been a feature of Raikkonen’s season so far, and that can’t have helped his qualifying and race day performances. But even making allowances for that, and the inevitable adjustment period involved when a driver switches teams, Raikkonen’s return to Ferrari has evoked more memories of his poor 2009 campaign than his 2007 championship victory.

At times it’s seemed as if his F14 T had been fitted with a Magnussen magnet, but while the McLaren driver bore responsibility for their tangles in Malaysia and Bahrain, the Monaco collision was down to Raikkonen. This began a poor run of races which included tenth places at Montreal (where he spun) and the Red Bull Ring, his nasty (and self-inflicted) smash at Silverstone, and a bruising encounter with several rivals at the Hockenheimring.

However he was happier with his car’s handling in Germany and that served as a springboard for his best performance of the season so far in Hungary, where he finished sixth despite being eliminated in Q1 due to an error by his team. Better days seem to lie ahead.

13. Jean-Eric Vergne

Key stat: Has the most retirements due to car failure of any driver: five

It’s a case of deja vu for Jean-Eric Vergne – at the mid-point of the season he’s had more mechanical failures than any other driver, which also happened last year. This has plainly affected his ability to score points, such as in Malaysia where he reached Q3 but had a power unit problem at the start of the race.

Car failures aren’t the only way he’s been let down by his team. In Spain a wheel came off his car during practice, leading to a grid penalty, and in Monaco having qualified seventh a pit release error led to a penalty. Wet weather conditions seem to bring out the best in him, as in Hungary where he got ahead of Nico Rosberg at the restart. Kvyat is certainly keeping him honest but Vergne narrowly has the upper hand at the moment despite his many misfortunes.

The next part of the rankings will be published tomorrow.

How the rankings are produced

Among the data referred to in producing the ranks are notes on each driver’s performance at each race weekend, compiled data on car performance, direct comparisons between team mates and each driver’s form guide.

Over to you

How do you think these ten drivers have performed so far in 2014?

Have your say in the comments.

Images © Caterham/LAT, Lotus/LAT, Sauber, Ferrari/spa

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118 comments on 2014 mid-season F1 driver rankings part one: 22-13

  1. Wais (@itswais77) said on 12th August 2014, 13:50

    Gutierrez ahead of Sutil, at least he deserved that.

    Vergne ahead of Kvyat, they are both equal but Kvyat is more impressive.

    Raikkonen is past his best, maybe his back has affected him worse.

    I’d predict, 1 HAM 2 RIC 3 ALO 4 BOT 5 MAG

  2. wsrgo (@wsrgo) said on 12th August 2014, 14:14

    I’d put Raikkonen lower and Kvyat higher, but otherwise it’s a pretty good ranking.

  3. Atticus (@atticus-2) said on 12th August 2014, 14:45

    I agree that Räikkönen should be lower, definitely lower than Massa. @conmcdonaghf1 explained it very well.

    My rankings for the 13th-22nd:

    13. Massa – made a couple of errors (e. g. bogging down on GB grid, Germany start) and… um… strange accidents (China start, Canada finish).
    14. Magnussen – some decent results (Australia podium, Germany comeback), but again a couple of errors and though these were rookie mistakes, he was generally slower than his teammate which is mostly not true for my top 13.
    15. Bianchi – been the sharpest when it was most necessary to score those first Marussia points, but was more crash-happy than in this rookie campaign.
    16. Räikkönen – low-speed spins here and there, hugely disappointing compared to Alonso (with whom he battled for the 2005 WDC) and an inability to adapt to the car. May see the light at the end of the tunnel post-FRIC.
    17. Sutil – I can’t really judge him, has not been spectacular. Monaco crash comes to mind, slumping behind the not-very-highly-rated Gutiérrez in quali pace does not bode very well for him.
    18. Kobayashi – nothing spectacular again, missed a beat at the worst possible time in Monaco, nice move on Bianchi in China, crashed in Australia, beat team-mate regularly… Up-and-down.
    19. Gutiérrez – great quali pace, but not much more. Maldonado give-and-take in Bahrain and GB the highlight in a negative sense.
    20. Maldonado – countless errors and mistakes really. Been on pace with Grosjean in raw terms – which saves him from finishing last – but… just too many errors, raw pace is nothing if you can’t finish.
    21. Chilton – not much to say.
    22. Ericsson – same.

    • Atticus (@atticus-2) said on 12th August 2014, 14:56

      Regarding some of @keithcollantine‘s picks, which I have not included above:

      Kyvat – his only two really error-prone weekends came at the end of the first half of the campaign, but was dependable and very quick despite being a rookie otherwise. Ranked him 10th.
      Vergne – two things stand out mistake-wise as well (Malaysia crash, poor starts), generally on pace with Kvyat, so I think this is one of the closest team-mate battle of 2014 beside the Hamilton-Rosberg one. Ranked him 11th, I think he got unlucky with Ricciardo and Kvyat as his team-mates in 2013-14 (I ranked Ricciardo 1st).

    • Breno (@austus) said on 12th August 2014, 22:43

      How many times has Bianchi crashed?

      • Atticus (@atticus-2) said on 12th August 2014, 23:39

        I think four times.

        With Vergne in Malaysia after the start, with Sutil in Bahrain in the early phase, with Chilton in Canada after the start and with Maldonado in Hungary in the early phase.

        I feel like he was at least partly to blame in two of these (Malaysia, Bahrain).

  4. zoom (@zoomracing) said on 12th August 2014, 15:04

    I can’t believe Ferrari pays Kimi 22m for this kind of performance, unreal.

  5. WilliamB (@william-brierty) said on 12th August 2014, 15:18

    I’m slightly confused about Kvyat’s ranking. Yes, he has been mistake prone, but his first ever taste of anything more powerful than a GP3 car was little over a year ago at the Silverstone test, and despite the fact that he had never driven a GP2 or FR3.5 car, he has been sublimely quick in the most volatile and premature F1 cars on this generation: a Q3 appearance on his first ever visit to Monaco reeks of future stardom. There has been none of the “warm up” period Tost can be quoted as saying on Kvyat’s announcement over Da Costa (a driver Franz hinted he would have expected to be quicker in the short term), he was close to JEV’s pace from the first round. For a rookie scarcely out his teenage years to be endangering the career of a teammate of whose illustrious junior career saw him once linked with F1 stardom is a brilliant effort: as Horner said, he is clearly rookie of the year so far.

    • Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 12th August 2014, 17:58

      @william-brierty As I mentioned to @Todfod earlier in the comments, whether they are rookies or not has no bearing on their ranking.

      • WilliamB (@william-brierty) said on 12th August 2014, 21:35

        @keithcollantine – Surely that’s an erroneous method of ranking then, with performance in motorsport so experience dependant. What is impressive about Max Verstappen and what is likely to prevent Palmer from making the step up to F1 depends on their performances versus their experience level. I don’t see how any system can rank performances validly without crediting Kvyat for coping with these highly unpredictable cars despite having little experience with anything more powerful than a GP3 car.

        • John H (@john-h) said on 13th August 2014, 7:48

          It’s not erroneous at all. Its like me taking up oil painting, and then being in the same league as Van Gogh because the critic has taken into account the fact I’m an amateur. That’s erroneous.

          Kvyat will get better season upon season and so will his ranking no doubt.

          • WilliamB (@william-brierty) said on 13th August 2014, 10:10

            @john-h – But whilst in F1 a fast lap is a fast lap no matter what its origins, art is deemed meritorious versus the artist’s heritage and broader portfolio: Q.E.D. you are not comparing apples with apples. And anyway, your point is mute, if said oil painting was produced by a child or merely someone with no artistic training, it would be a sensational undertaking; it would not however be valuable without a broader portfolio behind the artist, thus making the painting the F1 equivalent of Maldonado’s sole victory: a “flash in the pan”.

          • John H (@john-h) said on 13th August 2014, 10:59

            @william-brierty

            whilst in F1 a fast lap is a fast lap no matter what its origins,

            Haven’t you just contradicted yourself? I thought you were arguing that we should take an individual driver’s context into account?

            if said oil painting was produced by a child or merely someone with no artistic training, it would be a sensational undertaking

            Of course, but it doesn’t necessarily make the final artwork any more meritorious.

            And Q.E.D.? There’s no proof to be had here, and even if there was Gödel would probably disagree with us anyway!

          • WilliamB (@william-brierty) said on 13th August 2014, 18:06

            @john-h – A fast lap is a fast lap, and a nice painting is a nice painting, but its perception can be modulated by the background of its creator, so a Q3 appearance from Monaco newbie Kvyat is comparable to me, a political history graduate, painting something Michelangelo would be proud of. However art has a further component not shared by F1: value. A piece is deemed artistically valuable or meritorious as a matter of opinion versus an artist’s heritage and broader portfolio of works, many of which would be interlinked, however the value of a mid one minute sixteen at Monaco is ultimately modulated only by the decimal places after it; although of course the quality of the car and the experience and background of the driver has an impact on how it is subsequently perceived. Ultimately we are only comparing apples with apples to some degree; the nature of which I am sorry for not explaining fully previously.

            As for Q.E.D., or quod erat demonstrandum, is merely means “I have demonstrated thus” and is not merely the monopoly of mathematics, but also common in history journals and other essays.

          • John H (@john-h) said on 14th August 2014, 4:45

            Ok, thanks for explaining @william-brierty.

        • Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 13th August 2014, 23:02

          @william-brierty I’m not saying we can’t ever appreciate a driver’s efforts in light of their level of experience. There have been many occasions where a driver’s rookie status has elevated an excellent performance to something really special – Magnussen at Melbourne this year, Alonso at Suzuka 13 years ago and so on.

          But the intention behind this series of articles is to rank the drivers based on who’s been the best this year. Nothing more than that. Not ‘the best driver having taken their experience into consideration’. Not ‘the best driver having taken age, reaction times, level of education or anything else which might affect their performance into consideration’. Just who was best.

          And, as I say, disentangling driver performance from car performance is tricky enough as it is without making things even moe complicated by throwing other variables in.

          • Girts (@girts) said on 14th August 2014, 7:42

            @KeithCollantine I agree with that, if we start to take drivers’ experience or expectations into account, then we risk ending up with placing Chilton ahead of Alonso like the Guardian did last year: http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/groups/f1/forum/topic/2013-f1-driver-rankings-by-the-worlds-media/#post-133974

          • Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 14th August 2014, 8:33

            @girts Ha! I’d forgotten about that…

          • WilliamB (@william-brierty) said on 14th August 2014, 14:18

            @keithcollantine – Point taken; so these rankings are essentially a kind of supergrid if each driver had the same car? Alonso will be looking good for the top spot then…

            @girts – Gorgeous example there of what happens when you hand the mainstream press something as three-dimensional as F1 when they proceed to hand the story to a traditional ball ‘n’ bat sports journalist. Therein Sky Sports, get conventional “sports presenters” Lazenby and Brooks away from the cameras and keep Brundle, Crofty and Kravitz in the limelight…

          • Girts (@girts) said on 14th August 2014, 14:36

            @william-brierty Agreed, I actually do not think that professional F1 journalists would agree to the Guardian’s “alternative” rankings even if they considered experience to be a factor. As for the “sports presenters”, swapping jobs might be interesting for them but not so good for spectators / readers because, as you say, F1 is far too complex. I have been following F1 for 18 years but I’m still learning…

  6. Sridhar said on 12th August 2014, 15:22

    For once my sympathies are with the crazy Venezuelan (Mad Maxdonaldo). He threw away a good chance at Williams.Chances are that he could have finished on a podium this year which I doubt Massa will achieve. As for the rest yes Kyvat should be higher than Kumi but I guess Kimi will end the year at least within the top 10. Hoping for the best for the rest of the season.

  7. OmarR-Pepper (@omarr-pepper) said on 12th August 2014, 15:40

    This is my top ten, when the time comes I’ll post it again.
    1. Ricciardo: He has shown to be the right choice by Red Bull (especially seeing Kimi being nowhere near a podium). Also, he has literally overshadowed Vettel and matched the Mercedes in many races.
    2. Alonso: Give him a Williams now!!! He could be winning a couple of races already in that white car.
    3. Hamilton: He is winning the battle of wins (not the WDC standings though). As a downside, some people say Rosberg is “average” and that he should be beating him.
    4. Bottas: I know he’s not really a rookie, but he’s making Maldonado cry for sure. And he’s getting what Massa can’t. I guess Mr. 77 will win a race or two before the end of the year (He just needs a crazy race as today’s race)
    5. Rosberg: Although he is leading the championship, he looks quite pale sometimes. And let’s stop the “he never makes mistakes” idea. When he has to go head to head with Hamilton, he looks nervous (Monaco Q3, Canada battle, today) and he needs to shake that off before going into full charge mode.
    6. Hulkenberg: Mr. Consistency got his good run stopped today by his own fault, and by slippery conditions, which are his Achilles heel (remember Brazil 2012?)
    7. Vettel: The 4WDC must change something in his approach, even when he declared the other day he won’t. He must, especially to stop his doubters (although doubters will always be doubters). At least it looks like he is starting a recovery.
    8. Kvyat: He is definitely the rookie of the year. He just needs a car that doesn’t get on fire.
    9. Bianchi: Monaco, Monaco survival. Getting a Marussia into Q2 again. He needs another team to step up his game.
    10. Jenson Button: He’s finally giving his car some decent results. I know Magnussen has a podium while he doesn’t, but his experience is giving McLaren some solid results that maybe the car doesn’t deserve.

    • WilliamB (@william-brierty) said on 12th August 2014, 15:58

      @omarr-pepper – I don’t see how you can say slippery conditions are Hulkenberg’s Achilles heel with reference to Brazil 2012 (where it was actually the dual effect of aerodynamic turbulence from the lapped traffic and the conditions that saw him crash) when he was leading in a Force India at the time…on a track where he was on pole by over a second for Williams just two years prior. To my mind the only drivers more competent in an F1 car when the weather turns British are Fernando Alonso, Lewis Hamilton and Sebastian Vettel (ascending order)…and they aren’t bad in the dry as well…

      • Sven (@crammond) said on 13th August 2014, 1:57

        I´m not ecaxtly sure wether there are still drivers who are generally better than others in wet conditions, or wether that´s more about the wet tyres fitting the driving style. Hamilton was great on the Bridgestone-wets but hasn´t shown anything impressive on Pirelli-wets, while wet conditions were considered as Alonsos weak-spot in Bridgestone-times, but on Pirelli-wets he has been very consistent.
        It may futher also depend on temperatures, track and car, wether the difficulty is getting heat into the tyres or not overheating them. The tyre-eating Toro Rosso of 2008 and the same characteristic of the Williams in 2012 helped on those wet-days when it hindered them on hot, dry days, whereas this years Force India might produce severe problems when it´s cold and wet.

      • tmekt (@tmekt) said on 13th August 2014, 15:00

        @william-brierty – Actually he spun earlier in that race due to braking over a white line, entirely his mistake, and because of that lost the lead to Button (I think it was Button that won?). The Hamilton incident in T1 was later IIRC.

        I usually suck at remembering events in past races (and this particular race had so many) so don’t lynch me if I’m wrong but that’s how I remember it.

    • OmarR-Pepper (@omarr-pepper) said on 12th August 2014, 17:34

      sorry for some “today” phrases, I posted this the day of Hungary’s race and got it deleted. I had my backup and pasted it today… so the “today” in the post means 2 weeks ago.

  8. Why people said Kvyat should be ahead of JEV? I mean Kvyat is a good driver but he still made some mistakes. And JEV is leading Kvyat on the Championship, with a note that JEV had many mechanical failures that cost him more, while Kvyat did not have a lote of mechanical failures and some mistakes. So JEV ahead of Kvyat is right, the problem is they deserve better than 13th and 15th

  9. Rigi (@rigi) said on 12th August 2014, 16:48

    good ranking, except maybe kvyat is a bit too far down. other than that i agree with everything, especially gutierrez ahead of sutil.

    • Sauber (@mumito) said on 12th August 2014, 21:32

      I don’t believe that. GUT season was packed with rookie mistakes. And he is not a rookie anymore.
      He has flashes of great driving (wet, good starter, etc.) but his head is way too weak for F1.

  10. Imre (@f1mre) said on 12th August 2014, 17:42

    Raikkonen performed better than Massa??? Surely not in 2014.

  11. 22.Chilton: Continues to perform at a very low standard.
    21.Ericsson: Some excuses for the rookie, but not a lot of potential is shown.
    20.Maldonado: It is not just his recklessness, he has also been massively off the pace.
    19.Sutil: Just been very mediocre, but at least he has had his moments.
    18.Kobayashi: Personally, I never understood the buzz around this guy. Beating his teammate though.
    17.Gutierrez: Ahead of Sutil, but that isn’t saying much. He is good in the wet at least.
    16.Raikkonen: Very disappointing. Unlucky, but still probably the worst season by a World champion ever.
    15.Massa: Similar to Raikkonen, but has been closer to the pace.
    14.Magnussen: Showing a lot of potential, but hasn’t made best use of it yet. Promising start to career.
    13.Kvyat: Close to his teammate. Only rookie to have earned his place next year by this point.

  12. Prithvi Mohanty (@prithvif104) said on 12th August 2014, 18:39

    Oh cmon when has Bottas been “plane quicker” than Massa! With the way the 1st half has gone im not saying he should be higher but i just didnt like that sentence. It has been much much closer than that. Agreed Bottas has outqualified Massa in last 2 or 3 gp but quicker in one lap doesnt indicate race pace, this is were experience kicks in. Also in Hungary, Bottas enjoyed more updates than Massa. But no offence to Bottas, he has been and will remain one hello of a driver this season and will give a hard time to Massa.

    • Prithvi Mohanty (@prithvif104) said on 12th August 2014, 18:41

      *Hello – hell

    • craig-o (@craig-o) said on 13th August 2014, 14:03

      @prithvif104
      Malaysia Bottas 8th, Massa 7th. Massa refused to let a faster Bottas through.
      Spain. Bottas 5th, Massa 13th. Massa had no notable issues on that day.
      Monaco. Bottas RET, Massa 7th. Bottas was ahead when he retired due to an engine failure, granted Massa started behind through no fault of his own, but Bottas had far better race pace that day.
      Austria. Bottas 3rd, Massa 4th. Massa had slightly slower stops, but was still well behind his team mate at the line.
      Hungary. Bottas 8th, Massa 5th. Bottas was ahead before the safety car affected him, Alonso, Rosberg and Vettel.

      Obviously Australia, Britain and Germany are hard to judge due to Massa being eliminated on the first lap, the latter being the Brazilian’s fault, but there are some clear-cut examples of Bottas being plain quicker than Massa. It’s happened more times than not.

      • Prithvi Mohanty (@prithvif104) said on 13th August 2014, 17:14

        Malaysia: Bottas was on fresher tyres and that too he was not that quicker that he could have gone to overtake Button. If he had not attacked, both of them could have overtaken Button.
        Spain:Bottas’ strategy was better!
        Monaco:Massa started from behind so the pace is going to be slower than that of drivers ahead. Its natural. Then again you cant overtake that quickly.
        Austria: The pitstop was too slow. Then towards the end Massa was only 3.5 sec behind Bottas. He choosed not to overtake and backed off. When Alonso attacked, he pushed again so he had pace.
        Hungary: Bottas was using more updates. No matter how the race went, the laptimes were pretty close.
        In germany it wasnt the mistake of Massa!!!

  13. montreal95 (@montreal95) said on 12th August 2014, 19:21

    Apart from the bottom 2 I disagree with the placings. Seems that there was not enough concern given to the cars they were driving, neither to the relative performance compared to the respective team-mates. And the p13 driver doesn’t belong in the bottom 10 at all. Yes Vergne had a lot of bad luck but if we want to take that into account we can just look at the WDC official statistics. Here we judge the performance of the drivers the way we see it and no way JEV doesn’t deserve a higher position. On the other hand Perez, who is demolished by the Hulk doesn’t deserve a top 12(yes I know he scored a podium so what?)

    Then there’s the obvious FM/KR issue. I really like Kimi and never liked Massa but he’s been miles ahead of Raikkonen this year so far. The only time in his career Kimi drove this badly was in the second half of 2008. Massa and Bottas are very closely matched on pace. So yeah FM>KR so far this year

    Other issues: considering his weight issue and less mistakes Sutil>Gutierrez. Kobayashi’s should be a couple of places higher given his equipment and relative to others

    So, my bottom 10:
    22)Ericsson
    21)Chilton
    20)Gutierrez
    19)Maldonado
    18)Sutil
    17)Raikkonen
    16)Kobayashi
    15)Perez
    14)Massa
    13)Kvyat

  14. Bobby (@f1bobby) said on 12th August 2014, 19:57

    Kimi is too high on your list in my opinion.

    My top five:
    5. Ros
    4. Bot
    3. Alo
    2. Ham
    1. Ric

  15. msoerensen (@msoerensen) said on 12th August 2014, 20:29

    Don’t agree with the rankings. But that’s fine. Everyone has their opinion. Here is mine:

    22. Maldonado
    21. Ericsson
    20. Chilton
    19. Raikkonen
    18. Gutierrez
    17. Sutil
    16. Grosjean (probably the most overrated driver in F1)
    15. Vettel
    14. Kobayashi
    13. Vergne
    12. Massa
    11. Button
    10. Bianchi
    9. Magnussen
    8. Kvyat
    7. Perez
    6. Hulkenberg
    5. Bottas
    4. Rosberg
    3. Hamilton
    2. Ricciardo
    1. Alonso

    • craig-o (@craig-o) said on 13th August 2014, 14:08

      @msoerensen Grosjean overrated?

      He’s scored more points than Kvyat, despite being in clearly inferior machinery. He has only been outqualified by his team mate once this season, and has dragged that Lotus into Q3 on a couple of occasions, whilst that car should not belong in Q3.

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