Alonso: Trulli was toughest team mate in qualifying

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Fernando Alonso, Jarno Trulli, Renault, 2004In the round-up: Fernando Alonso says of all his team mates – which includes Lewis Hamilton, Kimi Raikkonen and Felipe Massa – the quickest over a single lap was Jarno Trulli.

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54 comments on Alonso: Trulli was toughest team mate in qualifying

  1. In the end, the Renault team sacked Trulli because of his pace and letting slip a podium at their home event I the final corners of the race. Also, I would question why there isn’t an Italian driver in f1. Valsecchi was fast in Gp2.

    • Nathan (@il-ferrarista) said on 18th August 2014, 8:35

      because of Trullis pace. Ehhh come on!?

      • The Abbinator (@abbinator) said on 19th August 2014, 14:16

        Don;t forget the “Trulli Train” effect… He was fast in qualy, but fairly useless in a race. If Toyota 2009 had raced, he would probably have given them their first victory & possibly a WDC over Brawn GP (Triple Diffuser).

    • Mr win or lose said on 18th August 2014, 9:47

      Actually, Trulli and Alonso were fairly evenly matched in 2004. It was only after the French Grand Prix when it all started to go downhill for Trulli.

      • tgu (@thegrapeunwashed) said on 18th August 2014, 9:58

        Briatore seemed to turn on Trulli well before his performance dipped. It seemed to me at the time that Jarno’s performance was a result of Briatore’s bullying rather than the other way round.

        It’s nice of Fernando to remember Trulli, a truly exceptional driver over one lap.

      • Yes, Trulli and at times Fisichella outpaced Alonso like no one really not even Lewis.

  2. Tom (@newdecade) said on 18th August 2014, 0:20

    Alonso also said he had an incredible challenge from Fisichella when they were teammates… I think there was a subtext to that interview, something along the lines of “I’m really saying whatever I think will get me out of this interview fastest”

  3. HoHum (@hohum) said on 18th August 2014, 0:28

    Watching that 74 AGP totally confirmed all the improvements in coverage FOM has made as recently stated by @gt-racer, even the interviewers are vastly better. If only everything Bernie did was as successful.

  4. Wil-Liam (@wil-liam) said on 18th August 2014, 0:28

    Hehe What about Hamil…. Never mind LMAO

    • kpcart said on 18th August 2014, 15:23

      get over yourself and go back and watch the era with Trulli, he was one of the best qualifiers in f1, even when in a Toyota.

  5. Wil-Liam (@wil-liam) said on 18th August 2014, 0:36

    In the video,Alonso doesn’t even acknowledge lewis when mentioning the teammates,maybe he doesn’t remember 2007?

  6. Custard said on 18th August 2014, 0:36

    If I were Alonso I’d be jealous of Lewis too but he did beat Alonso fair and square as a rookie so its not that he doesn’t deserve the fastest car!

    Also, I think Max has hindered his career by joining the worlds longest waiting list which is the Red Bull junior programme. The only driver which could get through that to F1 is Jan Mardenborough because he’s motorsports biggest “rags to riches” story – something that’ll generate a lot of interest.

    • JCost (@jcost) said on 18th August 2014, 7:29

      I see more potential in Max than I see in Jan. But like you said, young Jan’s story is incredible and he learns fast and can eventually be a force in GP3 next year if he doesn’t move up to GP2.

      Max is super fast but before him and Jan there’s a very promising driver in RB Junior Programme: Carlos Sainz Junior. I was expecting Red Bull to put Antonio Felix da Costa in a Torro Rosso next year, but now I’d bet it’s Sainz Junior who will get the seat and I think it will be fun to see the intra-team battle of Kvyat and Sainz Junior….

    • Matthias (@mattds) said on 18th August 2014, 13:39

      Also, I think Max has hindered his career by joining the worlds longest waiting list which is the Red Bull junior programme.

      As opposed to Frijns, who wanted to do things himself and is now “test driver” at Caterham?
      As opposed to Vandoorne, who is in the McLaren camp with not too much perspective on a race seat? Mark my words, they won’t have Magnussen and Vandoorne together in the McLaren anytime soon.
      As opposed to Marciello, who… well, when was the last time a Ferrari academy driver was put in a decent seat in F1? And what did Ferrari do when they actually had the chance last year to put a talent like Bianchi in their seat? Right!

      At least the Red Bull Junior programma regularly lets drivers go on to reach F1. Only caveat: you have to perform really well. Vettel and Ricciardo came through the ranks and are now in the main RBR team. Name me any one team on the grid that has two of their own youth drivers racing?
      Buemi and Alguersuari had their shots and weren’t picked up by anyone (Buemi is still employed by RBR though).
      Vergne has had his share of F1 exposure.
      Kvyat is now there and doing well.

      That’s 6 drivers since 2007 entering F1 through RBR’s junior programme. Almost one per year. Now name me any other junior programme that has let 6 young talents in F1 since then before calling it a career hindrance or “worlds longest waiting list”. No wait. Name me a junior programme that has let half of that in.

    • Matthijs (@matthijs) said on 18th August 2014, 21:34

      Well this is awkward…

  7. Brian (@bforth) said on 18th August 2014, 0:38

    As I recall it (and a quick Google search confirms) Alonso edged Trulli over their time together as teammates – 17-16 in qualifying.

    Hamilton beat him 9-8 or 10-7 depending on how you interpret Alonso’s penalty for intentionally blocking Hamilton in qualifying.

    I don’t understand how the teammate who beat him is slower than the one he bested, but Alonso always has had a selective memory. To his credit there isn’t much between them all, but there it is.

  8. Jack (@jackisthestig) said on 18th August 2014, 0:58

    Thats a kick in the balls for Tarso Marques!

  9. Breno (@austus) said on 18th August 2014, 1:13

    Wasnt there talk of banning alcohol sponsoring?

    • JCost (@jcost) said on 18th August 2014, 7:35

      In some countries and I’ve read that European Commission is studying a community wide ban… maybe down the road only sports bands and toy makers will be allowed to sponsor professional sports.

      Personally I find it weird banning sponsorship from legal enterprises…

      Ban on tobacco, alcohol, online betting…

    • I can comprehensively say that I have never been convinced by any advertising to want to smoke, as a 16 year-old. I have watched old F1 racing with obviously plenty of Marlboro logos prominent, but I’d never touch a cigarette.

      A far more potent influence is your peer group in getting you started – only after that I would reason would advertising have an effect in dictating any brand loyalty.

  10. Greg said on 18th August 2014, 6:17

    When Raikkonen gets that front end, all hell will break loose inside Ferrari because Alonso could easily get outqualified at every race by Kimi. I am serious here. If he seriously thinks Trulli is faster than Raikkonen he needs his head checked. Trulli great over 1 lap, nowhere near the Iceman when on form.

    • Matthias (@mattds) said on 18th August 2014, 14:43

      To be fair, why would Alonso mention Kimi as being the team mate who proved toughest in qualifying, when Kimi hasn’t done too well up until now? Alonso is not clairvoyant so he can’t possibly know what will happen when or if Kimi will ever return to the form of olden days.

      It’s not mentioning Hamilton here that strikes me instead. Not mentioning Kimi at this point is normal.

    • Todfod (@todfod) said on 18th August 2014, 15:21

      What makes you think Alonso won’t improve even further once the front end of the car is fixed???

      I said Alonso was going to eat Kimi for breakfast before this season started, and I’m guessing you were among the people who thought Kimi would actually make Alonso look average.

      It’s great to see you’re still keeping the faith. But get real… Kimi is looking like Alonso’s weakest teammate right now… barring Piquet Jr. of course

    • kpcart said on 18th August 2014, 15:30

      please Greg, if Kimi was so great, he would drive great no matter what car he had under him. the front end is an excuse. being a 2 dimensional driver and being quick only when the car suits you is not enough in F1, you need the 3rd dimension like Alonso has and extract the performance with whatever machinery you have. will you make the same comment at the end of the season or at the end of next season if Kimi is still being dominated? come on, it is half way through the season and he is being paid millions of dollars, admit he is underperforming. Kimis best days were 2002-2006, he is well past his prime. Truilli was a mighty qualifier, any blind man could see that, he was often the best in the mid 2000s

  11. Nathan (@il-ferrarista) said on 18th August 2014, 8:26

    I made a thread in the forums section once upon a time — about Alonso v Trullli i qualifying, considering BOTH 2003 and 2004 but SPECIALLY 2004.

    I wanted to know that because Alonso lets admit it had big problems getting pole positions the last five seasons when he had to face Hamilton, and Vettel, and Webber, respectively.

    My subjective opinion is that I considered Alonso to be a bit faster in 2003, and Trulli vice versa in -04. All in all, both were equally good (thats *my* impression and opinion though). Strange he says that when he had a certain a Hamilton as a teammate in 07, and Hamilton is arguably _the_ fastest driver in F1, slightly fastr than Vettel.

  12. KeithR (@lockup) said on 18th August 2014, 8:57

    They all get faster for the first few years so Jarno was a bit flattered being in his 6th year against a young 2nd-year, just as things could only be worse for Nando if he reunited with Lewis now (not that it wouldn’t be epic). Anyway Nando is a master of mental competition and is never in a million years going to say Lewis was his fastest competition. This a fun story, is alll.

    ISTR Jarno refused to sign Flav as his management and that didn’t exactly help his prospects in the team. But he was just too much of a softie really, liike Fisi.

  13. andae23 (@andae23) said on 18th August 2014, 9:13

    Good to see Trulli getting the recognition that he deserves. Renault in 2004 was essentially Team Alonso if you’d ask Briatore. Alonso would be the number one driver, Trulli the number two – but that’s not what it looked like on track. And even worse, then comes along the Monaco GP: Trulli wins, Alonso crashes out.

    During that whole year, I think Trulli never really felt comfortable within the team, which was made clear by Briatore’s outburst following the French GP. I suspect that the two were never given equal material, but I can’t back that up with concrete evidence.

    Anyway, I still am and will always be a Trulli fan, and Alonso saying he was his toughest competitor in qualifying means a lot.

    • Jarnooo (@jarnooo) said on 18th August 2014, 10:38

      Things just didn’t seem right toward the end of 2004. I guess the move to Toyota was good for everyone. Too bad they screwed both his and Glock’s careers in the end though.

      It’s a shame he never got to show his worth in a true race winning car. Oh well!

    • lawrence said on 18th August 2014, 17:32

      @andae23
      Take off your tin foil hat. It’s much simpler than that. Trulli changed management. Before the relationship between him and Flavio deteriorated, Falvio was his manager. When Trulli changed the management, it didn’t really sit well with Flav, and Flav is not one of the most forgiving characters. The fact that it was unprofessional to get mad at Trulli for changing the management had little impact on Flav’s decisions. But the truth is, all that had absolutely nothing to do with Alonso.

      • andae23 (@andae23) said on 18th August 2014, 19:03

        But the truth is, all that had absolutely nothing to do with Alonso.

        On the contrary, I think Alonso was the problem, in a way. Briatore had two of his pupils driving for Renault at the same time. It was clear that Alonso had great potential, perhaps a future World Champion, so what to do with Trulli? He later admitted that he felt the tension early in the season already, something wasn’t right.

        I believe that Alonso’s talent made Trulli obsolete. Whatever it was, it was Briatore who dumped Trulli, not the other way around.

  14. Tifoso1989 (@tifoso1989) said on 18th August 2014, 13:34

    It seems that some people want to speak for Alonso’s mind. Alonso has a great respect for Lewis, he praised many times Lewis’s racing abilities and hid raw speed. In 2007 Alonso struggled in the first part of the season to adapt to the Bridgestone tyres, he was also struggling with the brakes, only in the second part of the season he got the car at his like, while in Renault he was already comfortable because he developed his driving style around those heavy rear end Renault F1 cars and the Michelin tyres.
    I’m not saying that Lewis outqualified Fernando because Fernando was struggling, credit goes to Lewis in this case but Trulli who was at his best probably in those years has given Alonso a good run for his money in his “own territory” and at the end that’s Alonso’s assessment and he is the one that raced against them not us. BTW Ayrton Senna when he was asked about the driver who satisfied him the most when racing against, he said “Terry Fullerton” was for him a very complete driver and he enjoyed very much driving with him. I guess he was not trying to get under Prost’s skin but that was simply his opinion.

    • Nathan (@il-ferrarista) said on 19th August 2014, 1:12

      other than that 2006-Renault, that 2005-renault, and MP4-22, have constructors ever since or before these three years given Alonso a car worthy of pole postions??
      In those three years, he took 15 pole position if I recall correctly.. 7 in 05, 7 in 06, 2 (or more??) in 2007.

      Have ppl not considered the possibility that maybe the 04-Renault a bit more suited to Trulli than Alonso – - since Alonso was actually (more or less) way better than Trulli in 2003? Consider the fact that in 2003 Fernando was a 22 old kid.

      • Nathan (@il-ferrarista) said on 19th August 2014, 1:18

        *16 poles overall.

        **kid in the sense that there’s a 7 year diference between them. Maybe that’s not that much, but with the slighty lesser simulator technology in 2003 (Fernandos first race seat year with Ren, …simulators tech compared to 2010 and after), don’t you think Alonso was pretty much capable and “ready” for his age?? I mean he matured early, as VEttel, in every F1-aspect.

  15. Peter (@boylep6) said on 18th August 2014, 21:55

    Too late for the caption comp… but…

    “I told him he was being superstitious when he said everything breaks
    on the right hand side of the garage!?!”

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