Schumacher’s Hungary record falls to Hamilton

2016 Hungarian Grand Prix stats and facts

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Lewis Hamilton’s fifth Hungarian Grand Prix victory made him the most successful driver in the history of the race which was held for the first time 30 years ago.

For the second race running Hamilton surpassed Michael Schumacher’s victory tally at a particular grand prix. However Schumacher continues to hold the record for most wins at many other rounds of the championship, and Hamilton will need a few more years of racing to have a chance of passing them.

Here’s how they compare at a selection of some of the longest-running events on the calendar:

Ayrton Senna holds the record for most Monaco Grand Prix wins and Alain Prost holds the record for most wins in the British Grand Prix. Schumacher holds the record for most wins at the same race with his eight victories in the French Grand Prix, but that race hasn’t been held since 2008, which was Hamilton’s second year in the championship.

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Hamilton took the championship lead from Rosberg
Hamilton’s run of form at the Hungaroring even extends to practice sessions. Until his crash during second practice on Friday he’d headed every one at the track since 2013.

Schumacher’s last Hungarian Grand Prix win came in 2004, which coincidentally was also the last time that year’s eventual champion won at the Hungaroring. Hamilton moved into the championship lead with Sunday’s win, the first time the championship lead has changed hands mid-season since he overhauled Nico Rosberg at the 2014 Singapore Grand Prix.

Hamilton claimed the 48th victory of his Formula One career, leaving him three wins shy of Prost in second place on the all-time winners list. It was his fifth win of the season, drawing him level with Nico Rosberg, though his team mate has led more laps: 280 versus 241.

Rosberg took his 26th career pole position, putting him level with Mika Hakkinen, but has to wait for his 20th career win after losing his lead at the start. This was the sixth time in the eleven races so far this year the pole sitter hasn’t led at the end of lap one – and on two occasions Safety Car starts meant the pole sitter wasn’t under threat.

Kimi Raikkonen already has more fastest laps than any driver bar Schumacher and he added to his collection in Hungary, setting his 43rd. Schumacher recorded 77.

But the most unusual statistic from last weekend surely belongs to Fernando Alonso, who as well as qualifying and finishing seventh also finished in the same position in all three practice sessions.

Review the year so far in statistics here:

Have you spotted any other interesting stats and facts from the Hungarian Grand Prix? Share them in the comments.

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83 comments on “Schumacher’s Hungary record falls to Hamilton”

  1. What annoys me is everyone who says that Hamilton will never be a great. Because to me if you are closing in on becoming the 2nd most successful driver in F1 history (win wise) you are already a great. And I know people just say it’s because of the car, which I agree is an important part of it, but then almost everyone we consider great has had a great car, so why do we treat Hamilton differently because of his cars over the years?

    1. Don’t worry yourself with what people who are apparently filled with bile decide to say concerning Hamilton’s ranking in the sport. He is already a great.
      He will be a legend after he retires.
      Humans are emotional so our decisions no matter how much we try to deny it are laced, rightly or wrongly, with feelings and emotion.
      But you know what, cold hard statistics that are not cooked up, don’t lie.

      1. I totally agree. What people are forgetting is that almost or more of his wins have come with a Mclaren which has at times been the best or has been very uncompetitive (2009 for example).

        At the end of the day He is a great. Everybody was saying before he went to Mercedes “Hamilton would destroy everyone with a car like Vettel’s”. Well he has a car that performs the same or better than Vettel’s cars of 09 – 2013 and now the same people are saying “oh it’s only because of the car he’s winning”

        But at the end of the day i am onboard with you that Hamilton is a Legend in the making!

        1. MG421982 (@)
          26th July 2016, 8:46

          What are you talking about, HAM has 21 wins with McLaren and 27 with Mercedes! His 3 and a half years tenure at Mercedes is already more fruitious than the 6 years tenure at McLaren, no matter the subject of comparison.

          1. i’m Just saying the same fans that are laying into Hamilton are the same fans that wished he had a beast of a car when he was at McLaren and Vettel was running the show. :)

    2. For me it’s nothing to do with any one specific driver but I just don’t think that in this current era of ultra-conservation any of them are performing great feats. So for me it is hard to even relate today’s F1 to the F1 that the greats performed in. I also will never rate a driver simply because of the numbers he’s compiled. Gilles was a Great without having won a WDC, for example.

      1. What I find interesting is that nobody ever speaks of the golden days of driver aids as ‘less remarkable feats’. Nobody says Senna’s 1991 title is worth less than his 1988 title because the car had more gizmos. Mansell often gets his due because he nearly won a few times before and was rated well, as was Prost, but the 1992 and 1993 Williams essentially were easier to drive than today’s cars in their ‘cruise’ modes, especially considering their advantage over the opposition.

        Then again, I have stacks of F1 magazines from the late 90s in which journalists and fans decried the state of the sport, and how Hill, Villeneuve, Schumacher and Hakkinen were all a bunch of nobodies that would never be remembered and how F1 was dead. Very little has changed in discourse, but suddenly Michael and Mika are often rated in the top 15 of best ever F1 drivers..

        1. @npf1 Have to disagree with you on a few things. The cars they were driving in the late 80’s early 90’s were much more taxing on the drivers no matter what gizmos they were trying at the time. I think it is pure speculation on your part to claim the 92/93 Williams was easier to drive than today’s cars. What are you basing that comment on?

          And what magazines are you talking about? I can’t think of a single reputable one that would call those drivers nobodies. These magazines you are talking about must either be tabloids or you are misremembering. Sure the era you are talking about had processional races, not unlike yesterday’s, but as I say at least we had the impression the drivers were pushing to their and their cars’ limits.

          1. @robbie, the level of driver aids on some of the cars was such that some of the drivers who were active in the early 1990’s no longer thought that it was that difficult to drive the front running cars.

            When you move to something like the Williams FW15C, the level of driver aids on that car was a step above everything else on the grid, hence why Prost nicknamed the car “the little Airbus”. That car had active suspension, fully adjustable traction control and anti-lock brakes, the option of a fully automatic mode on the gearbox and also the option for automatic clutch control when pulling away – that is a considerable level of assistance for the driver.

          2. @anon Yes I’m aware of those aids, as well as the fact that they were disallowed before long. Relatively speaking sure some drivers made those comments about the cars being easy to drive, but were being compared to beasts. That doesn’t necessarily make them easier than today. None of this has anything to do with lapping around at delta times to conserve conserve conserve. 25 years plus later the drivers are calling for more challenge. As are the fans.

          3. @robbie , on French TV Prost said after Hungaroing that the speed at which the car snappedout of control of the drivers nowadays is incredible and that they need massive reflexes to be kept under control. So maybe less physically taxing, but none the less quite demanding

    3. It’s hard to call someone a great whilst still racing, especially if you don’t like him and in Lewis’s case he is a polarizing figure. Same goes for Seb and although I like both and think they’re both greats I feel it’s odd to look at Seb as a great while he’s still so young.

      When retired a while even the most fervent boo boys will have to accept Lewis as a great though as F1 will be a different place without him.

      1. I agree, I don’t think you can be a great while your still racing.

        Although without a doubt in 10 years time when we look back an remember Lewis as one of the greats, and no doubt we’ll reminisce that they were proper drivers back then and their cars much harder to drive that whatever we end up with ;-)

    4. Yes, it is too hard to compare different ages, an those who say F-1 now is less demanding than it was miss the fact that nature of the challenge changes along the decades…

      So Fangio and Ascari raced with imminent risk of losing their lives every single time they went out(Ascari in fact did) and if this risk became less imminent, it still exists (Jules as the most recent example)

      We use to think driving became less physically demanding, but the fact is we are evolving to an ever younger field of drivers, because it is still highly demanding, and they’re much more atlhetic than they ever were, and also have to deal with much more complex eletronics. Probably the only “lost art” is involvment in mechanics since the teams now are much more professional, with countless engineers doing even the smallest tasks.

      But in what it is measurable across different ages, Hamilton is a true great in every single aspect: multiple championships: check; winning sometimes without the fastest car: check; matching a top-class team-mate: check; bold overtaking: check; big ego: check; charisma: check; wet-weather driving above average: check;

      Deciding who’s the best ever will always be tricky, especially because we judge the greats that had their careers interrupted by an untimely death (Ascari, Clark and Senna) for what they might have acheived had they kept racing.

      I watch F-1 since 1991, the end of the supposed “Golden Age”, and I’m convinced the best racing I’ve ever seen was during the late 2000’s, with five different champions in five seasons (Alonso, Raikkonen, Hamilton, Button and Vettel), with championships decided on the last lap, three or four-way title battles, great intra-team rivalries and a fair share of upsets. Hamilton was an important par of it during his early years, and now has evolved in every aspect.

    5. The car is a heck of a lot more than “an important part of it”. Merc has gotten:

      * A car on the podium at 46 of the last 49 races (94%).
      * A car winning the race at 42 of the last 49 races (86%).
      * A one-two at 26 of the last 49 races (53%)

      When you enter the race with more than a 50/50 chance of a one-two, more than a 4 in 5 chance of winning the race, and almost a 19/20 chance that you can finish on the podium — and you have that advantage for at least three years straight — then the driver records you’re scoring become meaningless.

      Merc is and has been for the last couple of years in a formula of its own; it just happens to race on the same tracks as the F1 cars do. Hamilton is a good driver, but he’s not remotely the driver these records make him appear to be. Had he been in *any* other car on the grid, he wouldn’t be winning with even one-quarter the regularity with which he is now.

      It’s about 80% down to the car, and 20% down to the drivers, at best.

      1. That’s a dumb way of reading statistics, I’m sorry if this sounds rude. When you read probabilities backwards you are either not on your own reading statistics or you are trying to prove a point by cheating with them.

        1. Tell yourself whatever you want to believe. The numbers don’t lie. The car is completely and utterly dominant, as evidenced by them — especially the fact that for the last three seasons (well, two plus the current half-season) it gets a one-two at more than half of ALL races.

          1. @gweilo8888: So if I understand correctly, if a driver (Hamilton, Vettel for instance) could win completely unaided you would call them a “great”. Maybe allow them some sturdy running shoes and a track suit, against the other drivers? I’m thinking that maybe you should be watching athletics instead of CAR RACING.

      2. @gweilo8888

        I agree completely!

        You only have to look at his results in the years prior to him getting into the most dominant car in F1 history.

        2013 – 4th
        2012 – 4th
        2011 – 5th
        2010 – 4th
        2009 – 5th

        Hamilton started strong in 2007 and 2008 obviously, but once again – in the fastest or equal fastest on the grid. From 2009 onwards his results were hardly ‘legendary’.

        We also always hear how Hamilton can win even in a bad car. Really? And when exactly did he EVER drive a bad car and win? Let me guess – 2009? Do me a favour! His car was not so great for the first few races of 2009. Then they COMPLETELY rebuilt it and basically gave him a new car – THEN he started to win again, when the McLaren was once again at the sharp end of the field. Hamilton has NEVER won in a bad car.

        1. @nick101 The thing is you can apply your comment to Alonso and Vettel they have never won in a bad car.

        2. Macca hasn’t won since Hamilton left. That’s an interesting stat too.

      3. COTD for me.

      4. I fully agree in that the current hybrid Merc from 2014 to today is an overly dominant car and often we see it reiterated just how dominant it is…

        Even this season with their reliability issues, they are still the dominant team. I know it is often said how Red Bull dominated between 2010 and 2013, but, they rarely had 1-2 finishes or front row lockouts.

        To say that his 2009 wins were in a terrible car is also laughable when you look at the stats… The first half of the season, he scored only a handful of points, it was only after Hungary, when the car had been pretty much redesigned, that he got his 2 wins.

        In my viewpoint, the qualifying factor of a driver becoming a great is the ability to put a non competitive car on the podium…

    6. Once they retire, Hamilton and Vettel with both go down as greats. Even if Alonso retires with “only” two titles, I think he’ll still be regarded as a great driver – I think he did the most that he could during his time with Ferrari.

      The great drivers make the most of what they have at a given point in their career, so this will often be synonymous with having the best car available.

      In any case, what I’ve learned from inane comments from F1 fans (including myself in years past) is that biases are strong enough for people to shit on any driver, whether it’s Senna, Schumacher, Hamilton, Vettel, etc. despite the fact that winning more than one title is an amazing accomplishment in this series. They are all great drivers.

      1. @steevkay: I must admit that I had my doubts about Vettel in the Red Bull years but now I’m a lot happier that he really is a full-blown top class champion. I was wrong, and wrong in just the way you describe.

    7. Lewis is already a Legend!

      Worry about something else.

  2. – But the most unusual statistic from last weekend surely belongs to Fernando Alonso, who as well as qualifying and finishing seventh also finished in the same position in all three practice sessions.

    What a very unusual statistic for Alonso. Does it mean the Mclaren for now is only good for 7th in the scheme of things?

    1. Stat isn’t complete though… Alonso didn’t finish 7th in Q1 and Q2…

      1. He was 7th in each ‘session’ as Tata correctly states (which is, indeed, quite strange).
        Q1, Q2 and Q3 are classed as ‘segments’ of a session.

  3. Hamilton better then Schumacher or Senna?
    I don’t think so.
    For two years Lewis only opponent for race wins and championships is Nico Rosberg: so what are you proving with that?

    Hamilton third best? I don’t know. Maybe. Wins don’t tell the whole story

    1. I’m a huge Schumacher fan, but realistically he only had real competition for his titles in the latter half of 1994, early and late 2000 and 2003 all the way. If wins don’t tell the whole story for Hamilton, how do Schumachers 91 wins, a lot of them with little opposition for the win, tell his story?

      Hamilton doesn’t have to be better than Senna or Schumacher, just like Schumacher didn’t have to be better than Senna. When Michael was active, F1 magazines ran a yearly special on SENNA VS SCHUMACHER to boost sales. Never conclusive. After Schumacher retired for the second time, people finally started seeing him as his own entity, rather than him compared to Senna.

      Hopefully Lewis, Fernando and Sebastian can get that sort of treatment before their retirements.

    2. Wins don’t tell the entire story. Ickx, Clark, Villeneuve, all drivers much better than their win tally makes them look.

      1. @xtwl Clark. Why all drivers (and fans) don’t stop there for the ultimate benchmark is beyond me.

        1. @psynrg For me he is the number one, followed by Prost, whatever stats the current crop of drivers will break they are my top 2.

  4. To this day I find Kimi’s number of fastest laps in the all time standings remarkable. There are drivers who have won no races, but have a few fastest laps (Perez has 3 to 0 wins) but Kimi having 43 fastest laps to 20 victories is odd. The only driver with multiple wins with such a discrepancy (percentage) is Ayrton Senna with 19 fastest laps to 41 wins. Odd, considering their pole records are also quite the opposite (Kimi with 16 pole positions and 20 wins to Ayrton with 65 poles and 41 wins).

    1. I have never checked it but I think Raikkonen also has the most runner-up finishes of all current drivers. Maybe even twice as many as wins.

      1. He has the most 3rd place finishes of all time.

    2. I guess one fast lap doesn’t make you the fastest racer.

      Senna was pole win master. He even got pole with bad cars.
      The real Senna Schumacher battle sadly never happened. Would have taken many wins from Schumacher

    3. The lack of fastest laps for Senna is due to him mostly leading from pole and not being threatened in the latter part of the races, when the cars were some 200 kilos lighter. There was no need to try to push for it.

      1. exactly

    4. Fast laps mean very little, and mean different things at different times, If you are leading, there is no need for a FL because you are just managing the gap. If you are trailing then you will be pushing and trying to catch up, and thus be more prone to get a fast lap.

      With re-fueling only being a part of F1 for 16 years drivers who were active during those years fast lap records could be looked at differently to non refueling years when FL is usually set on the last set of tires.

      Basically fast lap means very little other than you were behind and trying to catch up.

  5. Well. I may not be old enough to have watched F1 during the late 80s and early 90s but there is a very consistent theme here. The best drivers drive for the best team with the best car. Simple. You can find examples where the WDC was not in a constructors winning car of which surprise surprise Hamilton in 08 springs to mind and Keke Rosberg as well. The fact of the matter is that almost always, the WDC is in a constructors winning car. That is how the sport has always worked, for anyone to try to discredit Hamilton, Vettel, Button- in my eyes shows spectacular lack of understanding of how this sport works.

    F1 is not like Tennis or Squash alone where the athlete is in total control of everything. You need the car beneath you and without that you will not win a WDC most times. Look at Alonso and Button at the moment- former world champs. Are they really that mediocre that they are fighting in the midfield with the Kyvats and Gutierrezs (no offense but they haven’t achieved much in the sport)? Of course not. So perhaps next time people say “Vettel won because of the car; Hamilton won because of the car” they should really look objectively at the history of the sport. Otherwise if you want to watch a pure athlete’s sport, Tennis and Squash might be good examples of where to look and F1 isn’t for you.

    Otherwise congrats to Lewis on setting the all time record at the Hungaroring, could have been more had he kept his cool last year and if it weren’t for the messy 2014 race. As Prost said “he has his mirrors full” with Hamilton and Vettel breathing down his neck.

    1. Nelson Piquet Snr I believe is the only driver to win the WDC without his team winning the WCC on more than one occasion, and he’s very rarely mentioned when it comes to talking about the greatest of all time and stuff like that!

      Sure, the best drivers might be in the best cars and the best teams but F1 is about so much more than just driving these days (despite the FIA’s best attempts to change that). Hamilton is clearly good. He’s clearly up there with the absolute greats. I think that we should appreciate and acknowledge his achievements just as we did with Vettel when he was tearing up the record books a few years back.

      1. Excellent point. It’s amazing how Piquet is so often overlooked; the guy has 3 WDCs racing against Lauda, Villeneuve, Prost, Mansell, Senna, etc; as @craig-o mentions, he won with teams that did not win the WCC; he made a few spectacular moves (like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgrWsd5QXF0) and was practically an engineer himself. Yet, Senna, being more marketable to the public, completely overshadowed him even in Brasil.

        I think sometimes it’s also a matter of numbers; how many “Greats” can you have in the same period? Schumacher was not threatened by any “would-be greats” for a long time, but now, you can arguably say there’s 3 drivers who’ve raced for nearly a decade against each other who could go into the books as “Greats”.

        And I think the new guys are also gonna be amazing to watch… Thinking of it, even though F1 has really gotten itself into a mess at the moment, I honestly do not miss 1996 to 2005, and that’s mostly because of the drivers.

        1. Another incredible Piquet stat: In his three WDC seasons he was not the driver with the most victories (in 1981 he tied with Prost for most wins) and in 1987 he managed to win the championship Mansell’s having double the number of victories (3-6). That’s consistency right there.

          1. That is exactly why I don’t view him as one of the greats

  6. Sainz finished in eigth place for the third race in a row. That has to be some sort of record, right?

    1. Webber finished 4th for the first 4 races of 2012… However no idea about 8th places, or what the true record is

  7. Hamilton and Vettel are already greats of F1.
    In good old days, I know there are some drivers who were not able to win even single championship because of tragic end that they meet. But I believe after you win 3 WDC, you surely have something special about you.
    Fangio, Brabham, Stewart, Lauda, Piquet, Prost, Senna, Schumacher, Vettel, Hamilton all fall in that category.

    1. Yeah for sure, you can chance in to a championship even two, but many years, with multiple teams… A great simply.

  8. This was the first Hungarian GP that Hamilton has won where Kimi didn’t come 2nd.

    1. @woodyd91 Great one! So it is also the first time Hamilton has led a 1-2 for whichever team he has driven for at Hungary.

  9. Growing to be quite a great this Hamilton dewd. 10 more years and maybe greatest?

    Somehow it feels like he is not winning fast enough to be greatest. But if it was not for Schumacher, certainly he is in pole position to beat everyone else stat wise.

    Some records however he can beat. Most wins at perticular GPs, most poles, certainly 2 more seasons with dominant team would do him no harm.

  10. I noticed that when the great champions Vettel or Hamilton are not in the lead they struggle.
    What does that mean?
    Did they forget to race by being too much in the lead in the past years?

    1. Put Ricciardo, Vettel, Raikonen, Alonso, Verstappen in Hamiltons car and you have a different World champion

      1. We wouldn’t be talking about how great Hamilton is, but about someone else.
        So what really makes the greatest drivers?

        I would say Senna was really great because he showed it in many ways by pure driving skills. Pole position in not the best car, by tuning it perfectly for that one lap.
        I see them in Verstappen too. He just didn’t get that perfect qualifying down yet, but he’ll get there. It’s experience.

        1. As I wrote a few weeks back 2014-2016 is not the base of the Hamilton legend, that is 2007-2008, and 2012. For Vettel it was 2008 and 2012, along with the most remarkable sequence of 9 wins in 2013 together with his 2015 campaign. For Alonso it were his Ferrari days that made him a legend, not winning in 2005-2006. Schumacher was a legend in 98-99. Legends are being made in troublesome years, not when everything runs smooth, those just add to the statistics, the numerals to back up the legendary status.

    2. It means for few years now lead car holds amazing advantage over all the following cars. Overtaking is hard, following another car ruins Pirelli performance, aero performance and cooling performance.

      It is far different from the olden days. Make no mistake great champions are still great drivers, just sport has changed.

      1. In fact, I think the current tires and aero hurt Hamilton. I think he would pass Roseberg more often with better tires.

    3. Really, I’ve seen Lewis in the pack over many years and he has done great. I think you are talking rubbish.

      1. re: “I’ve seen Lewis in the pack over many years” – Hamilton winning the Karting world cup in 2000 (Rosberg started ahead and finished way back IIRC) was when I first noticed him – I didn’t follow karting or I would have known about him a lot earlier than that. He hasn’t changed much, even says much the same stuff when interviewed on the podium.

  11. McLaren has outscored both Williams and Toro Rosso by one point in the last four races.

  12. second time that Alonso “messes up” Hamilton’s qualifying in the Hungaroring

    second time that Rosberg directly benefits from a yellow flag to get pole

    can’t remember the last time a Williams was classified 18th, 2 laps down- must have been a while ago?

    2004 was the last time the WDC in that year won the Hungarian GP

  13. the top 7 finishers had won the lasts 68 races

  14. Another statistic which may have been mentioned earlier, is the fact that no Hungarian GP winner since 2004 went on to win the Championship, so now that Hamilton has won it this year, he may somehow not win his fourth title this year.

    1. @arobbo It’s in the article.

      1. Woops, my bad, guess my reading skills are sub-par then :)

  15. I used to live in the US for 12 years.
    I was surprised about all the records that were broken everyday in sports. Every game played in sports is braking some record I found out.
    You wouldn’t know if the Americans were not keeping stats of everything in sports. Especially baseball is a game run by stats.

    Records seem to be less important to me since then.

    1. Baseball is so boring it needs statistics to make it more interesting.

      Some races F1 feels the same way. Better tires please!

  16. Surely the ‘record’ bar for the Hungarian GP on the graph should be 5, Lewis’s number of wins?

  17. Hamilton stood on the podium in 53.37% F1 races in which he participated. No other driver who competed in over 40 races it does not reach the podium as often. Alain Prost has a score of 53.27%

    1. Fangios score is nearly 69 percent – 35 from 51 starts

  18. 2nd circuit (after Montreal) at which Hamilton has managed 5 wins. At both circuits, he has also managed 5 poles, and started from pole and didn’t win in 2008.

    3 of Hamilton’s Hungary wins (2007, 2012, 2013) have come from pole, and the other 2 (2009, 2016) came 1 year after he managed pole but didn’t win.

    Vettel finally reaches 2000 career points.

    First time Rosberg has officially finished 2nd this year.

    Raikkonen is the first driver to finish 6th twice this year.

    36th time Hamilton and Rosberg have shared the front row – equals Hakkinen and Coulthard.

    25th time Hamilton and Rosberg have managed a 1-2 – 1 more than M Schumacher and Barrichello for Ferrari.

    8th different Hungarian GP that Hamilton has led – 1 more than M Schumacher.

    First time since 2008 that Button has not scored in Hungary. Also the first Hungarian GP since 2008 where Vettel has not started in the top 3.

    First time since joining Ferrari that Vettel has gone 3 races without a podium.

    Mercedes have now won at all circuits at which they have raced in the hybrid era.

    1. “36th time Hamilton and Rosberg have shared the front row – equals Hakkinen and Coulthard”.

      Hakkinen and Coulthard have 18 front row starts

  19. If Hamilton had (proper)No.1 status like Schum did, he’d probably have another 10 to 15 wins under his belt. 91 wouldn’t seem too far way then.

    1. If Hamilton would drive for Ferrari like Schumi he wouldn’t have that many wins.
      Someone else would have all the records.

  20. Rosberg is truly one of the greatest drivers to have driven a Mercedes in the last few years.

    1. When Hamilton’s car isn’t breaking down in qualifying.

      1. They both need Mercedes more then Mercedes needs them.
        Hope next season 3 teams will be equal at the top so we can not find out what car is the best but what driver is the best.

  21. If you are driving a Merc you can only lose, if you are driving against a Merc you can’t win.

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