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2011 Bathurst 1000 finish

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    Keith Collantine
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    Intense end to the race, pity it clashed with the start of the Japanese Grand Prix, I’ve only just seen it!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFdHJRG0jsA

    #180409
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    SouthAussie94
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    The last few laps were insane and I think justify why I only gave the Japanese GP a 7/10. After this it just didn’t compare!

    A great result for the rookie Nick Percat and Garth Tander. I just wish Skaife and Lowndes could have continued their enduro winning streak. Still 3/4 is still really good!

    #180410
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    Tyson Evans
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    @MPJ1994 I’ve been a big Skaifey fan since I was little, and it was a little dissapointing that Lowndsey couldn’t get past in the end. Though if anyone else was going to win it, it had to be Tander. Or at least a Holden of course ;)

    I also bet all the Nascar fans on speed after watching this are going “so that’s why Ambrose is so good at Watkins Glen!”

    #180411
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    Prisoner Monkeys
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    On behalf of Australia, I apologise to everyone who watched. As exciting as the end was, I am sorry that you had to see one of the best drivers in Australia beaten by one of the most unlikeable figures in Australian motorsport. I can’t really think of an apt Formula 1 comparison here. Craig Lowndes is a lot like Kamui Kobayashi – he will try and win (and believe me, he has) even with a tyre buried in his windscreen. But Garth Tander is like Fernando Alonso circa 2007 in a head-on collision with Nelson Piquet Jnr.

    #180412
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    damonsmedley
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    What’s wrong with Tander, PM?

    I only watched the first lap of Bathurst today and despite everyone going on about it, I wasn’t tempted to switch away from the Japanese Grand Prix. I just watched the video above, and I can’t say it looked anywhere near as good as the F1 race we saw today.

    #180413
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    Prisoner Monkeys
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    Tander is … well, it’s kind of difficult to explain.

    For one, his successes are always a result of his skill – but his failures are always someone else’s fault. He always seems to marginalise the role others play in his victories.

    I think Tander has high expectations of himself, and he holds the team to those expectations. But he always seems to concentrate on the failures, and he rarely acknowledges the successes. I also find that he lacks the X-factor that the other drivers have; for example, Lowndes has the never-say-die attitude, Whincup is immune to pressure, and van Gisbergen almost scares the other drivers into giving way. But Tander comes across as clinical and dispassionate in his driving. This presents in a cold and uncaring attitude off the track (unlike some others; Greg Murphy has the same high standards, but he wears his heart on his sleeve).

    Likewise, he always seems to claim that he had things under control and that he was never concerned about anything – even when there is evidence to the contrary. I flipped over to Suzuka before the podium, but no doubt Tander claimed that he wasn’t worried about Craig Lowndes (when he was clearly being cautious going into the Chase after his lock-up). In the World According to Garth, he is always in the box seat. Yesterday, he was talking up the importance of being on pole position for the race, but on the grid this morning, he was downplaying the importance of qualifying. Even if he was a lap down, he’d still claim that it was the ideal position to be in. There’s confidence, and then there’s cockiness, and then there’s outright arrogance. Tander stops just short of that last one, so it’s possible to like him, but he tends to embody everything that is Holden and their approach of buying everyone and everything on the grid.

    #180414
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    Stephen Jones
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    amazing finish! and @damonsmedley i’m disowning you as an australian! =P It’s like all endurance racing, you need to understand the context of the situation.. And in that case, they had been racing for over 6 hours, and the gap from 1st to 2nd was about 2 tenths! If a V8SC fan was watching the Japanese GP, I’d imagine he wouldn’t enjoy the race as much!

    also, i’m a Tander fan.. so i may not be welcome in this thread!
    But at least take notice of Nick Percat, one of the nicest and most talented driver (my opinion) in the Country.. and for him to take Victory on Debut was amazing!

    #180415
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    Icthyes
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    Wow, what a finish! Wish I’d seen this now instead, the GP could have waited!

    #180416
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    Doance
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    Yes great race all day after this I didn’t care much about the Japanese Grand Prix! Gave the GP 7/10 would have been higher but it was overshadowed by Bathurst.

    #180417
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    Prisoner Monkeys
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    Wow, what a finish! Wish I’d seen this now instead, the GP could have waited!

    Honestly, you didn’t miss too much. The first twenty or thirty laps and the last twenty or thirty laps were okay, but everything in between – except Besnard’s accident at Griffin’s Bend – was fairly boring, just everyone driving to the point where they could start racing one another.

    That said, we did get to see some creative problem-solving, the kind that you don’t really see in Formula 1 – someone accidentally left a wrench of some kind in the passenger’s-side footwell of Jamie Whincup’s car. Rather than waste time trying to dig it out at the first round of stops whena quick stop if crucial, the team put a magnet in the car, holding the wrench in place.

    #180418
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    oddly enough, speed tv had a nascar commentator and commentator/former driver darrell waltrip covering the race. admitted fish out of water, they seemed to have loved it. waltrip’s younger brother michael has driven gt’s in 24 hour races at dubai, spa and le mans.

    #180419
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    Chops
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    I have to agree with PM, I find Tander to be quite unlikeable sometimes, though he clearly has talent. The only reason I wanted him to win was for Percat! He used to race at my old go-kart club and i’ve still got his old nosecone in my shed (though I never met him, just bought it as a spare). Maybe I’ll get it signed when he’s won the championship!

    And yes iamsa8, the context of the finish makes a big impact on the excitement. After the whole race of the Vodafone cars and car 2 fighting, the last few laps were so intense as Lowndes caught Tander, and for the most important victory of the year.

    #180420
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    Prisoner Monkeys
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    oddly enough, speed tv had a nascar commentator and commentator/former driver darrell waltrip covering the race.

    Nope, it was very deliberate. SPEED sent Waltrip down to Australia along with Mike Joy, Calvin Fish and expat Leigh Diffey to commentate on the race live and in prime time. And I’m pretty sure they’ll be doing the same thing for the Gold Coast 600 in two weeks’ time. It coincides with a push into the international markets; V8 Supercars will be going to the Circuit of the Americas in 2013 and the Powers That Be want to drum up local support. No doubt they want to get some American drivers in the Austin race when it happens, possibly in a wildcard entry.

    #180421
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    Scalextric
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    And then Darrell Waltrip’s lap before the race is one of the funniest bits of racing car video I’ve seen for a while. Bear in mind Mr. Waltrip had a long, successful racing career in NASCAR (3 titles).

    #180423
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    Scalextric
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    And I saw the end of this race on Speed, then switched my gaze to a live stream on the PC and saw I’d missed the start and first corner of the GP. Had to wait a couple of laps for a replay of the start, which aggravated me as I’m so used to TV on a DVR.

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