I should probably elaborate, I have played f1 2012, I traded 2011 for it (got a whopping $9 off the price :). I returned it the same day because, while the driving was marginally more realistic (still not even half way to gt5, let alone rfactor or iracing), the game was riddled with bugs. Now I understand that cm have been very lazy with all of their f1 games, and 2011 has some irritating bugs that cm never bothered to fix. But 2012s bugs are so much bigger, and there are so many more of them, that I couldn’t actually enjoy the driving for so much as one lap without a bug ruining the experience for me. I play racing games for immersion, I have gt5 with all dlc and updates, and that provides me with the fun of collecting, tuning, setting up and testing of most of my dream cars, but the ai and the “race day immersion” is severely lacking in gt5, which is where f1 games come in. I play them for the fun of racing, the experience of the full race weekend, the strategy, the battles, and the feeling when you triumph over your rivals. Now obviously this has led me to playing 2011 exclusively with non kers teams, as any other team is good enough for me to win every race, and the big teams are good enough to lap everyone, even playing with a controller. My problem with 2012 was the bugs were enormous, and people on cm forums were saying turn damage off etc. which isn’t an option for me, because that ruins the immersion – my reason for playing, and I told myself, after returning 2012 and getting my 2011 copy back, that I wouldn’t buy 2012 again unless cm fixed all the major bugs. I also won’t buy 2013 if cm don’t bother fixing 2012, because they did that with 2010 and 2011 and I don’t think they are learning a lesson, they seem to think they can churn out this rubbish and people will eat it up regardless of how broken it is. I am planning to replace my racing games with rfactor, but I don’t have a pc atm, and being a perfectionist, and a lover of racing real cars, means I will need a pro set up to give me the most realistic experience possible. I’ve worked out this will cost me roughly $4000, so in the meantime, I just wish cm would fix their games, because from first impressions, 2012 would be a much better game, and so much more fun, than 2011, if it wasn’t for the game breaking bugs that plague it, of which i believe there is over 20 major bugs still not fixed, if cm forums are anything to go by.