The Collantine Cup – v2.0 (771 posts)

  • Profile picture of damonsmedley damonsmedley said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    @Magnificent-Geoffrey I’ve noticed a few errors in the championship standings. Add the scores from today to this and Steve isn’t on 120, and I’m not on 90…

    @supernicebob Brilliant video! But what’s happened to the sound in your last two videos? It was interesting to see you were actually ahead of me into Les Combes on those two occasions where it looked like I outbraked you. From my video, you’ll see it looked quite different to that…

    @slr Awesome! And that was some seriously good car control towards the end of the video when you’re going through Pouhon sideways!

    My race was terrible and I have no idea how I salvaged 4th place!

    I started qualifying with a series of spins and I was feeling completely hopeless in the wet conditions. I then tried putting traction control on, which helped me keep it pointing in the right direction, but it felt awfully slow coming out of corners. I set my best time with TC on (which I’m not too proud of) but it wasn’t anything special, so I’ve left it out of the video.

    Poor @Electrolite had his connection fail, which I probably should have embraced considering our battles this season! But as we all discussed the predicament, I’d completely forgotten to turn traction control off again.

    Starting on the primes, I had a poor launch as I had no-where near enough revs (I’d never done a TC start so I had no idea what to do) and I lost several positions before La Source. Going through Eau Rouge, I noticed @Aus_Steve and @ed24f1 were locked in a furious wheel-to-wheel scrap, whilst @supernicebob tried to capitalise. They lost a lot of speed through battling, and I approached the scene very rapidly, giving me little time to think. I swept to the inside, but just as I did so, Ed also went right, and I now had one wheel alongside him as he inched closer to the edge of the track. I could have lifted and tried to duck in behind (I have no idea why I didn’t) but I kept my foot in it and Steve, Ed and myself went three wide into Les Combes. I actually didn’t intend to outbrake Ed, but I tried to salvage the situation and keep a tight line when I realised I had indeed passed him. But it wasn’t enough, and despite thinking I’d left enough room for Steve (and assuming Ed was behind) the three of us collided. I have no idea how much it affected Steve, but I didn’t even know he was involved until I saw @slr‘s video on the previous page!

    The rest of the first lap was a disaster. Into Fagnes, David was spinning. I wasn’t thinking quickly enough (if at all) and I ploughed into him, and dropped even further back. Then into the Bus Stop supernicebob tried a move up the inside, but the lag meant I had no idea he was there until it was too late, and I pirouetted into the run-off and into the wall. I quickly reversed out and then drove around the tyre wall at full-lock, but it wasn’t enough to get onto the pit staight without running wide, and I clipped Nic again as I tried to recover to the track! It was quite humourous in an extremely frustrating way!

    The next few laps went quite well, and I set several fastest laps (I had no idea how I was quickest on track) and passed a few cars. I got past @Silverkeg, but later in the lap, I misjudged my turn-in point for the corner with no name after Rivage, and bounced my car over the kerb and into the outside wall where it stopped dead. I lost all of the positions I’d worked so hard to take in the previous few laps, and dropped back behind supernicebob.

    I spent a while chasing the guys ahead before the rain started coming down. I stayed out for a few laps, and eventually made my first stop for inters at the end of lap 9/start of lap 10. When my pit crew decided to give me full wets instead, I was unsure if they’d burn out too quickly on the damp track, but despite getting hot and according to my race engineer, blistering, they held on for the rest of the race.

    My final half of the race was very uneventful, and I just had to focus on putting in clean laps and capitalising on the mistakes of others. Poor strategies from the people ahead meant I was able to climb to fourth, and I fancied a shot at third when I realised I was catching Ed quickly. I took about 9 seconds out of him and it occurred to me that there was a chance of penalties, so I tried my hardest to get within 10 seconds. Alas, I fell 9 tenths short, and it was torturous to see that Ed indeed did receive a penalty, so I was in fact 9 tenths away from a podium. Oh well.

    I’ve learnt a few lessons from this race. From now on, I’m not going to let adrenaline (or whatever it was that came over me) control me at the start, and I’ll be much less aggressive. I paid the price for getting a bit too excited this evening.

    Secondly, I’m going to make sure I reaffirm my tyre selection as I come into the pits, because the pit crew obviously don’t pay attention, as I’m sure slr will back me up on!

    And last but not least; traction control is awful. The car felt so sluggish and I had so much understeer tonight. I have no idea why, but maybe it’s because having no assists helps me to slide the car through the corners, whereas TC keeps it pointing straight if it senses the back end is stepping out. I really wish I’d remembered to switch it off, because I felt awful using it, the car felt slow (although that was probably placebo and me looking for an excuse for being so terrible!), and it was no-where near as fun.

    Anyway, here’s the video.

    And here are the correct championship standings: :P

  • Profile picture of Magnificent Geoffrey Magnificent Geoffrey said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    First of all, my heartfelt apologies to my teammate @Electrolite for his connection issues. Unfortunately, there was nothing I could do once you disconnected and the precedent we’ve set before when we’ve had Ned and slr drop out is that we carry on. If you had disconnected right at the very beginning or if we had multiple disconnects, I’d have restarted. But because it was just you and we were already half way through the session, I felt that restarting would’ve been an inconsistency for me as an organiser. Quite why there isn’t a way for us to re-invite people once a session has started would usually be beyond me, but this is Codemasters we’re talking about.

    Anyway, as far as my race went. Well. It was my best performance of the season, easily. I couldn’t have done any more than I did to try and win that race, but I got caught out by the rain which happened at the worst time for my strategy and the best time for Steve. I’m not going to lie, I’m utterly depressed by finishing second for the third race in a row. I don’t think I’m going to win anything this season.

    Here’s my highlights package for you all to enjoy!

    (@damonsmedley I’ve entered all the results into a brand new spreadsheet today, so that’s why there were a few errors that I’ve now corrected. Considering writing all the results up and working out the table after each race takes me a good hour, I’m not massively surprised that I might have put some figures in the wrong place somewhere along the way. If you want to take over the results and standings side of things, please be my guest. I’d much rather not have to spend my time doing it myself.)

  • Profile picture of damonsmedley damonsmedley said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    Good video Magffrey. But when you saw there was 63% chance of rain, wouldn’t you have made sure your first stint was as long as possible to avoid making extra stops in case of a shower? :P

  • Profile picture of Slr Slr said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    Nice vid Mag. I have to agree with Damon, when I saw you pitting during the race on lap 5 , I was quite surprised.

    @damonsmedley If you do a TC start again (which I’m sure you won’t), just put the power down and don’t worry about revs.

    And I’ll back you up on the tyre selection, oh how I hate my pit crew.

  • Profile picture of Magnificent Geoffrey Magnificent Geoffrey said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    OK, maybe I made a mistake in trusting the strategy that the computer put me on, thinking it was doing what was best for me. But after choosing my own strategy for every race and only finishing second at best, I felt it might be a good idea to listen to my engineer for once. ;) I can’t win, whatever I choose to do, apparently.

    Anyway, Singapore next weekend. I’ve been looking forward to this one more than any other. I’m clearly on good form and so is my teammate, so you should be afraid Damon…

  • Profile picture of electrolite electrolite said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    @Magnificent-Geoffrey It happens, no need to apologise, I’d have made the same decision. We got some points in the bag, right? :)

    Looks like an interesting race took place, I’ve at least enjoyed watching the videos. Nice to imagine where I’d have finished in all of that!

    After two failed weekends, I have to say I’m looking forward to Singapore.

  • Profile picture of Slr Slr said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    @damonsmedley Great video as always, you’re first lap gave me a good laugh. It’s a bit of a consolation to see that your pit crew are just as stupid and incompetant as mine. Seeing myself on dry tyres in wet conditions is embarrassing, though at least it wasn’t my fault.

  • Profile picture of Magnificent Geoffrey Magnificent Geoffrey said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    @Damonsmedley @slr Just watching Damon’s video, I noticed that he selected Inters in Sector 3. In Brazil, I selected Intermediates on the menu in the middle of Sector 2 and today, I made the selection just before Sector 2. I know it doesn’t explain why they would put Wets on your car and not Inters, but maybe you should try making your tyre choices earlier in the lap. It’s not been a problem for me and that’s the only thing I can think of that I’m doing any different to you both.

    Also, I will never understand why whenever Damon has these truly terrible races of his, he always finishes at the front. My worst race was Malaysia when I finished 6th, and even then I didn’t drive anywhere near as bad as he did today! :P

  • Profile picture of damonsmedley damonsmedley said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    @Magnificent-Geoffrey Skillz. That is all.

  • Profile picture of Enigma Enigma said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    @damonsmedley That was some ‘recent history of Spa’ lap 1!

    1:01 Webber in the last 2 years
    1:11 Raikkonen, every time
    1:27 Schumacher last year, when he was behind Glock and D’Ambrosio
    1:38 Hamilton 2009
    1:53 Alonso in 2011
    2:17 Raikkonen in 2008 (Rosberg and Hamilton, you even spun but a bit too early)
    2:54 Alonso 2010
    4:40 Something Yuji Ide would probably do
    7:27 Raikkonen in 2008 (that’s what should happen!)
    8:29 Heidfeld in 2008

  • Profile picture of damonsmedley damonsmedley said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    @Enigma Haha, wow! You’re right. Although I actually did think how similar it looked to Schumacher’s start as I went through the Kemmel kink at the time. :)

  • Profile picture of supernicebob supernicebob said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    @damonsmedley In my first video all you could here was the wheel feedback so I thought that silence would be better than that. I’ll see if I can work something out for next time.

    Looks like I was in a different race to you in your video! Sorry once again for the bus stop collision and subsequent shenanigans.

  • Profile picture of electrolite electrolite said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    @everyone with pit problems

    I’ve always selected my tyre choice mid lap (regardless of what my pre-proposed strategy was) and then again a second time just as I’m heading towards my pit slot. Never had a wrong tyre change myself using that method!

  • Profile picture of damonsmedley damonsmedley said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    @supernicebob I don’t think it would be much of a problem. The sound in your Interlagos video was just fine, I thought. :)

    @Electrolite I’ll give that a go. It’s so odd!

    @Magnificent-Geoffrey Why did you not include your pole lap? I was quite looking forward to seeing how you managed that amazing time! Did you use TC?

  • Profile picture of Silverkeg Silverkeg said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    @Damonsmedley From my perspective you just appeared exactly where my car was. You drove straight through me :P

    Regarding the pits issue, I don’t usually select my tyres until I am in the pit lane so I have no idea why others are having issues.

    Qualifying: 7th

    Went out with 10 minutes remaining and just drove around trying to lower my time each lap. Had my obligitory spin and ended up seventh.

    Race: 8th

    Got the usual start but braked early as I was right on the inside and didn’t want to do a Senna. Came out of the first corner 8th I think then Ran wide at Raidillion and was last. Got through all the action at Les Combes but ran wide at malmedy, letting Damon and Ed?? through. Then touched Ed and went off at Rivage. Supernicebob got through leaving me dead last again. Got through more action at Le Fagnes and the bus stop. tried unsuccesfully to drive fast and clean for the next few laps as the people behind caught me. Managed to hold up Damon for a lap before he drove through me (Enjoyed that) Then proceeded losing time.

    By Lap 7 my Primes were shot and I was struggling for grip, I went straight at Bus Stop on Lap 8 allowing everyone back through. Then pushed one more lap so I could go straight to Inters. I leapfrogged supernocebob in the pits but inexplicabley went straight on at Bus stop for the second time.

    For the rest of the time I watched the gap to slr quickly dissipate until I spun at the Bus Stop. I had Spud 40 Seconds behind me So I pitted for new inters and cruised home for eigth.

    Unfortunately with all the commotion involving Electolite’s disconnection, I forgot to press Record, So there will be no Visual sample from me this weekend either. :/

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