2012 F1 driver rankings: half-season (88 posts)

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  • Profile picture of Hairs Hairs said 9 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Ah my favourite time of year.

    24 Pastor Maldonado
    A driver I had no respect for last year after his “This is Formula 1″ comments following barging Hamilton off the track, and risking launching cars into the crowd, I subsequently found out he was rightfully banned from Monaco for running over a steward during yellow flags, and bought his way out of the penalty. His barging and continued unrepentant use of his car as a weapon this year marks him out as disgusting individual who has no place in F1, race winner or not. A contemptible fool.

    23 Felipe Massa
    A fish on a bicycle would be as much use to Ferrari as Massa. While Button has had an equally bad run compared to his teammate at some points this year, the simple fact is that Massa started his career with the the appelation “not up to the job”, and with the exception of a season or two, he’ll end it in much the same state. Even if Ferrari allowed him to win, you get the impression that unless Smedley got in the car with him, he still wouldn’t be able to do it.

    22 Narain Karthikeyan
    Almost a second behind De la Rosa, who was a good bit behind Kobayashi when they were in the Sauber. He’s not underperforming, at least.

    21 Pedro De La Rosa
    Should have stayed at McLaren. Who knows what he thinks he’s achieved by signing up with HRT.

    20 Bruno Senna
    Poor form, and wasting a good car. Usually gets close to scoring points, but he’s definitely holding the car back.

    19 Michael Schumacher
    Some awful luck, crazy amounts of retirements, but some embarrassing mistakes. Despite getting his first podium, he seems to be going backwards, and his comeback at this stage was a mistake.

    18 Vitaly Petrov
    Comprehensively beaten by Heikki, just like Jarno. Can’t do much in a Caterham, so that’s the only yardstick we can use.

    17 Charles Pic
    Gets above Petrov for outqualifying Glock. Again, can’t show us much where he is.

    16 Timo Glock
    Slowly losing the will to live down in the Marussia garage.

    15 Jean Eric Vergne
    Clearly the favourite of Marko compared to Ricciardo, but being out-qualified and out-raced. Being a favourite of Marko won’t help him at all, unless he’s Vettel. Even then, it’s a bit of a curse.

    14 Kamui Kobayashi
    Poor results and not showing the speed of Perez. Some sparks of the Kamui that thrilled people in 09 and 10 but he doesn’t seem like the same driver.

    13 Nico Rosberg
    Fantastic race win in China, but recently out-qualified and outraced by a geriatric who doesn’t know how to park the car.

    12 Jenson Button
    Won the opening race in dominant fashion and on the podium twice, but still having a terrible year. Typical Jenson, when he’s good he’s a pleasure to watch, when things aren’t right, he looks like a rookie. Still suffering from “massive front locking” (nerves) in qualifying, which it doesn’t look like he’ll ever get over. 12 seems a bit harsh but I can’t put him much higher due to the awful results when Lewis was still up front.

    11 Nico Hulkenburg
    Not doing as well as he should compared to Di Resta. Both drivers seem to be at the limit of the Force India, though.

    10 Paul di Resta
    Still the most boring man on the grid to listen to. Driving better than Nico, and not many mistakes.

    9 Daniel Ricciardo
    One good qualifying, but some good racing from time to time. The Torro Rosso isn’t up to much, but he seems to be taking it wherever it could conceivably go.

    8 Mark Webber
    Like Button, an up and down season for the Aussie. He’s salvaging his bad days, however, and that’s what counts.

    7 Sergio Perez
    Cracked under pressure in Malaysia, but has been racing fantastically well. Finally able to show some talent after a year of being stuck on one-stop strategies.

    6 Heikki Kovalainen
    Continues to drag the Caterham further than it belongs, he’s showing all the hallmarks of a hard, focussed racer. Belongs in a better car, but not Massa’s. Alonso would melt his brain and destroy him.

    5 Sebastian Vettel
    Still one of the best drivers on the grid, has been let down here and there by his temper. From here on in, the top 5 is a case of splitting hairs with one exception.

    4 Kimi Raikkonen
    Beaten in qualifying by Grosjean more often than not, he is finally getting the car where he wants it and is back to his old self. Hungary was fantastic.

    3 Romain Grosjean
    A driver I (and most others) wrote off following an embarrassing 2009 where laziness led him to be vaulted into Piquet’s seat, and promptly show that while he was fast in GP2, he wasn’t capable of controlling an F1 car, spinning the car in the middle of slow sections when exhaustion got the better of him, or ploughing into the back of a load of cars in Spa, then promptly blaming the drivers in front. Certainly, no other team principal was about to offer the Frenchman a seat, so it’s just as well the boss of Renlotus happens to be his manager. Having said that, he clearly did a lot of physical prep and now looks like a genuine fast rookie who made the odd mistake at the start of the year, as opposed to the pencil necked idiot he was in 2009. He’s handily beaten Kimi on more than one occasion and deserves to have been at least second more than once. I said before the season that the same noises beig made about him this year (fast in Gp2!oneoneone!) meant nothing, because they were said in 09. Good for him, he’s proved that he can make the step up to F1 after all.

    2 Lewis Hamilton
    Should be leading the championship at this stage, due to stupid errors from McLaren. A far cry from the days when the team was a byword for attention to detail and organisational perfection. More importantly, he’s calmed down from last year and finally looks like a complete, mature driver.

    1 Fernando Alonso
    No other candidate for #1. There are lots of reasons to dislike some of Alonso’s past behaviour, as well as the team he drives for, but on both counts they deserve to be at the top this year. They had a dog of a car, and still got amazing results with it. When the car improved, the results got better, but didn’t have to get much better. He’s #1 on merit, skill, mental power, speed, and intelligence. In a grid of excellent drivers, he stands head and shoulders above the rest this year. I can picture many drivers winning the championship this year, but I can’t picture one who deserves it more.

  • Profile picture of magon4 magon4 said 9 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Mine is based on grades from 0-10 (with ,5) given after every race weekend; 70% average, 15% last three races (current form), 15% best three races (brilliance). In brackets, their best race weekend in my evaluation. Here we go:

    24. Karthikeyan (Germany)
    23. Pic (Hungary)
    22. Massa (Great Britain)
    21. Button (Australia)
    20. Petrov (Bahrain)
    19. Vergne (Malaysia)
    18. Senna (Malaysia)
    17. De la Rosa (Canada)
    16. Glock (Monaco)
    15. Maldonado (Spain)
    14. Schumacher (Monaco)
    13. Ricciardo (Europe)
    12. Di Resta (Bahrain)
    11. Rosberg (China)
    10. Kovalainen (Monaco)
    9. Kobayashi (Germany)
    8. Hülkenberg (Europe)
    7. Grosjean (Great Britain)
    6. Webber (Monaco)
    5. Perez (Canada)
    4. Raikkonen (Bahrain)
    3. Hamilton (Canada)
    2. Vettel (Europe)
    1. Alonso (Europe)

    Best Form: Alonso, Raikkonen, Vettel
    Shiniest Performances: Alonso, Perez, Hamilton
    Most Consistent (without bottom 3 teams): Hülkenberg, Vettel, Ricciardo
    Least Consistent: Senna, Button, Rosberg

  • Profile picture of Nick Nick said 9 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Quite new here, but have been lurking for a while and this thread reeled me in. Rankings mostly based on expectations, relative performance, position compared to teammate, car and circumstances.

    24. Glock
    Hasn’t been doing that well lately. Rather invisible, but seemingly unmotivated and isn’t outperforming his car, while he proved during his Toyota days that he can be quick.

    23. Karthikeyan
    What’s there to be said? Never was impressed with this guy and lacks potential and perspective. That being said, being less able than most drivers (not dramatically so) he is doing a good job at bringing the car home and keeps within range of Pedro.

    22. Vergne
    Had a good start to the season, but is being outperformed by his teammate and does his job, but never excels and has dropped off in Q1 far too often this year. Doesn’t seem to be ‘on it’ this season, I liked him in WSR.

    21. Massa
    While I have been defending his post-Monaco results, Hungary was a grim reminder that he simply isn’t up to the job of being Ferrari’s second driver. He’s costing his team a lot of points in a competitive season, but he also seems to lack the ability to extract everything from his car. Bad luck aside, he hasn’t bounced from mistakes or bad luck or made any nifty strategy calls. If this were 2006, alright, but this is getting a little strange.

    20. Ricciardo
    While outperforming his teammate and doing some nice qualifying sessions, he too seems to be limited entirely to the capabilities of his car and does his job, but that’s not going to be enough to impress RBR, or even impress at STR.

    19. Pic
    Doing rather well, has been outperforming Glock lately and seems to be a rather quick, reliable newcomer. The Marussia makes it somewhat harder to judge, but I think the guy has potential.

    18. Petrov
    Has matured a lot since his debut and has become a stable, reliable driver. Seems to lack the raw speed Heikki has, but has found himself in some good positions during races, keeping it together and not defending against all costs when he does.

    17. de la Rosa
    Doing a steady job. Has made HRT a little bit more respectable in my eyes and is doing exactly what’s expected of him.

    16. Schumacher
    Oh dear. I remember at the end of 2010, when everyone started to think he’d be on it in 2011. The same thing happened after last year and while he does seem to be performing better, he has a lot of bad luck, but also seems to be making some mistakes lately. He does seem to be on Rosberg’s pace much more than the past 2 years, but also has his moments where he can’t push the car beyond the Saubers and Force Indias. His podium brought a smile to my face, especially because he had a very strong race. He needs more of those, and less picture perfect PR talk about how the team is working on it.

    15. Button
    Quite hard to judge his season. He has had his share of bad luck, but I find him largely unimpressive this season. Of course, I don’t know all the details, but I think Button is having a bad season as far as personal performance goes this year as well. It’s a very competitive season, so despite driving a McLaren, bad luck and less-than-stellar driving hurts him a lot.

    14. Hulkenberg
    While I do have to say I expected more, he’s doing fine. A solid driver, mostly, with some downs. He is going to need some more ups, to even it out and to keep up with Di Resta some more. That being said, I think Nico has some serious potential, but he needs to show it.

    13. Kovalainen
    Funny enough, when browsing through some other posts, I couldn’t imagine why people had Heikki high up in their ratings, only to find out I too rate his performance highly. Held back by the car, but he does often show what a backmarker can do in the hands of a good driver. He seems to the one able to mess with the STRs on a good day and I like his efforts, despite the somewhat stale situation he’s in.

    12. Senna
    I remember watching this guy going around Zandvoort many years ago and being captivated by the name. While I was still rather young then, I have developed a very small soft spot for the guy. I like to see him do well, but he more than often doesn’t. The move to Williams had ‘marketing’ written all over it, but he’s doing alright, he’s quite consistent. Sadly, he is underperforming his car. Again, it’s a competitive season, which doesn’t help his case. If he can keep up his pace of Hungary, maybe improve a little, he might edge over Maldonado at the end of this year, as far as points are concerned.

    11. di Resta
    A solid driver, making the most out of his inconsistent Force India. A little too held back by his car, but I think that might be a mental issue as well. He isn’t showing all his raw pace this season, which I find odd, but I rate him highly because I think he can show some nice performances later this season.

    10. Maldonado
    To be honest, I wasn’t too happy about him being retained. He didn’t impress me at all last year, mostly because I thought Barrichello was done for, allowing Pastor to move in closer. His pace is very good and he reminds me of Montoya in his early seasons. It is sad, however, that his racings skills and mentality seem to be more of ‘NASCAR-Montoya’ than ‘F1-Montoya’. He has wasted a lot of points and is irresponsible, but as a driver, if he ever gets his head screwed on right, might be able to contend for more victories and top positions in the WDC. Maybe.

    9. Rosberg
    Honestly didn’t quite know where to put him. His performance in China was a textbook late 90s/early 00s victory, solid and smart. The Mercedes is also complicating his season, but he keeps his head down and does well. Doesn’t seem to be as competitive as the past 2 seasons, but again, the car makes things harder for him as well.

    8. Kobayashi
    2010 and 2011 were largely unimpressive and to be honest, I feared he might not be able to combine his pace with sensible driving and good qualifying laps. He’s been using his talent much better this year, and despite Perez getting all the glory, he isn’t far behind and a much more solid driver than we’ve seen in the past. Color me impressed!

    7. Vettel
    It seems a little unfair to put him here, but I still consider him to be a hugely talented driver, who has the potential to be greater than Schumacher in his glory years, as far as performance goes. This season shows that last year’s success hasn’t been too good on his resilience or mental power. He is doing well, but doesn’t seem to be getting the most out of his own talent. I’m not a fan, but do wonder why he hasn’t been on it this year.

    6. Webber
    Has his ups and downs, but largely, until Germany, a very solid season, has refound his pace and confidence. To be honest, I think he was doing better than in 2010 even. The last 2 races weren’t too good on him, but if he can keep up with Alonso, he might end up being his foremost competitor, as he’s still hungry and still motivated.

    5. Perez
    Is having a very good season, he’s fast, he’s smart and doesn’t take names. He’s doing his best to get the most out of the Sauber, but doesn’t always get it. He’s still young, and it shows, so I think he might be able to impress even more in the future. If he can keep up the pace and do well for the rest of the season, he’ll make a very strong case for himself to join a top-team.

    4. Grosjean
    I’ve noticed a lot of people wrote him off after his races in 2009. Personally, I didn’t think he did too well, but his pace in the feeder series and Auto GP for instance has impressed me a lot. This year, he’s fully prepared and keeps up with Raikkonen often, even beating him in Qualifying. You can tell he’s still a rookie in F1, he isn’t always ‘on it’ for the entire race, but I do find him rather impressive. I wonder what a couple of years of experience and a car like the RB7 last year would allow him to do.

    3. Hamilton
    Despite some mistakes, mostly by the team, he has been very consistent and fast. His move on Vettel in the German GP showed he’s hungry, but also wizened up from last year. He seems to be happy, motivated and is doing very well in the car. If he can overcome the points difference with Alonso some more, he might very well be able to push for the championship and win some more races.

    2. Raikkonen
    At first, I was skeptical of his return. After 2010 and 2011, I wasn’t too sure what to make of the Lotus team. Kimi however has been on the pace, doing well in races and manages to make the utmost of his car. How this hasn’t resulted in a win yet, is slightly awkward for the Lotus team, since Kimi seems to need a car that’s just a tidbit faster and need to work on his qualifying skills. He’s far behind, but as a driver, it’s like we got the Kimi right out of 2007, 2008/9 never happened and he never left F1. I’m glad to have him back and he has certainly added something to F1 this year.

    1. Alonso
    Who else? A dog of a car, while improving, but Alonso drags it to places it should’ve never been. Fernando is on fire and makes the most of every situation, makes the most of his skills, experience, the team, etc. etc. I feared for his season before it started, now people are fearing Fernando for the championship. If he keeps this up, he can’t miss the WDC and will enter 2013 even stronger. I’ve mentioned the competitiveness of this season more than once, but Fernando somehow manages to edge everyone this year.

  • Profile picture of Todfod Todfod said 9 months, 3 weeks ago:

    24. Narain Karthikeyan – In this modern era of F1, great drivers are fighting for a seat in the sport. This has eliminated the chances of drivers like Ide, Yamamoto, Bruni to enter the sport. Which makes me wonder why and how Karthikeyan is still on the F1 grid.
    23. Timo Glock – Has looked really lack luster this year. Although he has managed to out qualify his rookie teammate, Pic has looked a far superior driver on a few occassions. Maybe he doesn’t have any motivation to stick around at Marrussia, or just being in a crappy team has completely destroyed his ability to drive
    22. Felipe Massa – Has been outqualified and outraced by his teammate 10 race weekends in a row. Felipe doesn’t look capable of getting podiums even if the car is fast enough to do so. It would be a tragedy to have Felipe in a Ferrari seat again next year as he clearly doesn’t belong anywhere near a top drive.
    21. De la Rosa – Has been better than Karthikeyan on almost every weekend… but thats not really raising the bar very high is it?
    20. Vitaly Petrov – Vitaly did have some strong weekends where he was able to match Kovalainen, but there were a lot of weekends where he was pretty poor as well. Honestly, if either the Marrussias or HRTs could match the Lotus machinery, I reckon we would see Petrov finish behind the likes of Charles Pic
    19. Bruno Senna – Other than a couple of semi-strong performances (6th place finishes) , Bruno has looked pale in comparison to his much quicker teammate. Sundays have been his better days, yet, he hasn’t maximised the potential of the car and has done nothing to live up to the hype created around him. Unless he turns his season around, I cannot see him retaining his seat for next year.
    18. Charles Pic – Charles has had his moments this year. He has often been able to match the quali pace of his teammate, and has beaten his frequently on Sundays. In the German Gp (i think) , he ended up lapping Timo Glock, which is quite a feat for a rookie. Still it is hard to place him higher as it’s hard to know how fast he really is in that Marrussia
    17. Jenson Button – Jenson Button has gone from hero to zero this year, and his performances have given enough reason to people to question whether he really is ‘Mclaren’ material. Jenson’s lack of versatility has been displayed clearly this year. When things go right (like in Australia), he can maximise the potential of the car, but when things aren’t perfect he looks like Karthikeyan in a Mclaren.
    16. Jean Eric Vergne – Has had some great moments on Sundays, especially in Monaco. While he has matched his teammate on race pace, he hasn’t quite been able to match him on Saturdays
    15. Pastor Maldonado – Other than his weekend in Spain, there hasn’t been anything commendable about Pastor’s performances. He has made rookie mistakes, has had brain fade moments and has been penalised for pretty much everything this year. If it wasn’t for some strong pace he has shown from time to time, I would have rated him much lower.
    14. Daniel Ricciardo – Has been consistent during quali and on most Sundays as well. The bahrain weekend was a real standout performance and has shown that he does have skills. I did expect much more of him though, especially since he has had a 6 month head start on Vergne
    13. Heikki Kovalainen – Heikki has been his consistent yet unlucky self. His performance in Monaco was a good reflection of why he probably belongs in a better car
    12. Kamui Kobayashi – Has been inconsistent this year in quali and on Sundays. He has got the team’s best quali position with a P4, but didn’t capitalise on the Sunday. Kamui has been fast at times, but has also looked significantly poorer than his teammate. He hasn’t been able to execute tyre management strategies as well as Sergio either.
    11. Nico Rosberg – I’m rather disappointed with Nico’s performances this year. China was a weekend that worked perfectly for him and Monaco he finished in a strong 2nd position, but he has not shown up on several race weeknds this year. Rosberg was constantly rolling down the order on Sundays as well as losing the edge he had on his teammate in quali. Overall, I think this has been Rosberg’s poorest season to date, and if it wasn’t for his teammate’s bad luck we would see an interesting battle brewing between them
    10. Nico Hulkenberg – Got off to a slightly slow start this year, but over the last 2-3 races he’s showing solid qualifying pace and racecraft. He isn’t that far off Di Resta on quali and the race, and that speaks volumes for his ability
    9. Michael Schumacher – Schumi has been unlucky this year especially at the start. He has lost close to 60 points due to no fault of his own, and his grid penalty couldn’t have come at a worst time. Schumacher still hasn’t found 100% consistency and he still has his brain fade moments, nonetheless, he has seems more consistent than Rosberg and has shown glimpses of what he can deliver if he has the car working for him.
    8. Paul Di Resta – Solid in qualifying and the race. He has matured his racecraft since last season and it’s just a matter of time before he gets a drive in one of the top teams
    7. Sergio Perez – Even though Sergio has been inconsistent on Saturdays, he has had some really brilliant moments. He has shown tremendous pace at times (Monaco and Malaysia fastest lap) and great tyre management skills on other occassions (Canada, etc.). He still has a bit of a learning curve, but overall he has been one of the most impressive drivers of the year.
    6. Romain Grosjean – Quite a solid rookie season for Romain. He has racked up 3 podiums (which should have been 4), and several top 4 qualifying positions. He has shown the pace to beat his highly regarded teammate, but has unfortunately has not mastered racecraft like Kimi has

  • Profile picture of magon4 magon4 said 9 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Ok, I forgot the important comments.

    How Jenson Button can be so far up with so many F1F readers is a mystery to me. He had a six race slump from Bahrain to Great Britain and has underperformed in seven races. He’s been really good in three, but that surely doesn’t make up for it in Formula 1. Petrov in that McLaren would have done more. I too really like and admire Jenson, but he just is having a bad season and that should show in the rankings. The list is about actual performance, not about potential performance.

    Having said that, I believe Nico Hülkenberg has done slightly better than Paul di Resta. Since Spain, he has constantly had the better weekend (Canada as the only exception), so the good start to the season by the brit has been more than overcome.

    No Mercedes driver belongs in the Top Ten so far. It is not only the car that has had mixed performances.

    In the Vettel x Hamilton comparison, the german has simply been more consistent, while the brit has outshone him. Lewis had stellar performances in Spain, Canada and Hungary, Vettel in Bahrain an Valencia. But I still believe Seb has the slight edge.

    A word about Kobayashi – yes, Perez has had a great first half of career, but this sometimes might overshine too much what Kamui has achieved. Great races in Spain and Germany, but most importantly much more consistency this year than last year. He should be in the Top Ten.

    Webber is having a great season, compared to last year. But CMON, he has not been better than Vettel, overall. 7×4 in my weekend standings, with WEB doing a better job than his teammate in Malaysia, China, Monaco and Great Britain – all the other weekends went to Vettel, one by a large margin (Bahrain). They have shone the same, but Vettel is more consistent.

    Finally, I think that the most important day of a weekend should be the sunday. So why the hell is everyone putting Pic above Glock? I’m not quite getting it! If it is to be expected that Glock is better, and he mostly is, why overemphasize the few times he is not (on a racing sunday)??

  • Profile picture of Todfod Todfod said 9 months, 3 weeks ago:

    5 – Webber – Has been consistent this year and has often matched his teammate in quali and race pace. His performances in Monaco and Uk have shown glimpses of his early 2010 form.

    4- Raikkonnen – Kimi showed the world how to make an f1 comeback. He has been strong on Sundays and has come close to taking his 1st win on a couple of occassions so far. A string of 2-3 mediocre races and some below expectations quali performances are the only reason he isn’t rated higher

    3 Vettel – Seb isn’t dominating the way he did in 2011, but he has still shown why he is probably the strongest qualifier on the grid. His performance in Valencia before his engine gave way, was probably the strongest performance from any driver this season. Slightly inconsistent quali performances are the only reason he hasn’t been ranked slightly higher

    2 – Hamilton – Has been getting 100% out of that Mclaren in almost all of the races this year. He has been let down by the team on a couple of occassions (Malaysia, Spain and Valencia come to mind). When the team gets their act together, as demonstrated in Canada and Hungary, there isn’t much that can stop Lewis.

    1 Fernando Alonso – This guy has been magnificent all season long. Even when the car wasn’t upto speed, Fernando’s opporunistic approach and relentless focus has maximised the smallest of opportunities. The car hasn’t been the fastest on any weekend, yet Fernando has more wins than anyone else this season and 40 points more than his closest competitor… I think that pretty much sums up why no one else could be at the #1 spot right now.

  • Profile picture of magon4 magon4 said 9 months, 3 weeks ago:

    @agentmulder wait a minute – Button 8th, Vettel 7th? Really? REALLY???

  • Profile picture of magon4 magon4 said 9 months, 3 weeks ago:

    45 F1Fanatics had their say so far, and here are some stats, besides the official average ranking. In brackets, the mode (most commonly selected postion for a driver).

    24. Karthikeyan 23,72 (24)
    23. Glock 21,12 (23)
    22. Massa 19,88 (19)
    21. De La Rosa 19,81 (23)
    20. Vergne 18,81 (18)
    19. Petrov 18,72 (22)
    18. Pic 18,58 (19)
    17. Senna 17,37 (22)
    16. Ricciardo 17,37 (20)
    15. Maldonado 15,35 (13)
    14. Schumacher 12,49 (14)
    13. Kobayashi 12,37 (11)
    12. Hülkenberg 12,16 (11)
    11. Kovalainen 11,98 (13)
    10. Di Resta 11,40 (11)
    9. Button 11,33 (9)
    8. Rosberg 8,30 (8)
    7. Perez 6,34 (7)
    6. Grosjean 6,21 (6)
    5. Vettel 4,70 (5)
    4. Webber 4,27 (5)
    3. Raikkonen 3,64 (3)
    2. Hamilton 2,51 (2)
    1. Alonso 1,00 (1)

    Some mathematical facts, based on standard deviation.
    5 drivers people most agreed on:
    Alonso, Karthikeyan, Hamilton, Webber, Raikkonen

    5 most controversial drivers (high sdv):
    Maldonado, Senna, Pic, De La Rosa, Button

    Most common rankings:
    Alonso 1st – 45
    Karthikeyan 24th – 35
    Hamilton 2nd – 28
    Perez 7th – 16
    Raikkonen 3rd – 16

  • Profile picture of Kingshark Kingshark said 9 months, 3 weeks ago:

    1. Alonso 1,00 (1)

    Everyone thinks Alonso has been the best driver this season. While it strikes as no surprise to me that he’s leading these rankings, but that no one has dared to put anyone higher than him shows just how convincing Alonso’s been this season.

    24 – Bruno Senna

    Listen PM, I know that you dislike Bruno Senna, no surprise to me there; but that you think he’s worse than Karthikeyan or De La Rosa makes me think you have a vendetta against him more than anything else.

    Do you honestly think that HRT’s current drivers would have performed better than he has in his current drive? Do you think they’d have scored more than 24 points in the Williams?

    You are ridiculous.

  • Profile picture of baluundertaker baluundertaker said 9 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Its always tough in F1 to rate drivers considering the importance of performance of the car. Its even more so this year as every race we have had a different pecking order. So my ratings is based on the following assumption of car performance (on an average):
    Mclaren > Red Bull > Ferrari > Lotus > Mercedes > Sauber > Williams > Force India > Torro Rosso > Caterham > Marussia > HRT
    (I believe as of the moment alone Lotus is faster and mercedes is slower than this average rating i have come up with).

    1. Alonso : This along with 2011 are his best years. Due to strong end of 2010, people conveniently forgot the string of errors he made in early part of 2010 and he didn’t deserve the championship then. But in 2012 he has been unparalleled and perfect in every sense.

    2. Vettel : Am sure he is the most underrated 2 time champion ever. He has made only one mistake this year (overtaking button from outside the track) and could have possibly lead the championship if not for valencia and karthikeyan. Though not as cool-headed as alonso, still has been consistent and i believe Alonso’s biggest threat will come from Vettel.

    3. Raikkonen: Slightly tentative with overtaking at the beginning of the year(understandably) but has been awesome of late with both clean overtaking and fantastic race pace when needed. I expect him to be ahead of Webber in the final championship but Top 3 might be slightly difficult. Need to improve his qualifying slightly though and he could be in podium in every race. Lotus have not been very strong in strategies and that is a dampener.

    4. Hamilton: Has drove very consistently this year and lost lots of points due to team errors. But i feel he has not been as fast as he used to be. He is one point ahead of Raikkonen in a car i believe was faster over the course of the season(except in 2-3 races where lotus were faster). He still will challenge Alonso for Championship but might need Button and Grosjean to be ahead of Alonso consistently to help him.

    5. Webber: Has been much stronger in qualifying against Vettel than previous years. On races though he has been inconsistent. Still nice to see Webber high in the championship, though Vettel most likely will have the upper hand at the end of the year.

    6. Perez : Surprisingly fast but still maintains tires very well. Drives like Raikkonen of the old charging through the field in 2nd half of the race. But has been inconsistent and had many poor weekends too.

    7. Rosberg: Have been slightly disappointed with him this season. Mercedes have dropped pace but what i expect from Rosberg is consistent point scoring however bad the weekend is. He seems to not have as much hold on his Mercedes in qualifying as he normally as and their race pace is generally weaker. Still he is 6th in Championship and way ahead of his teammate.

    8. Grosjean: The shock of the season and mighty entertaining. 8 seems slightly low but he is on same points on Button (who everyone claims is having a pathetic season) and behind Rosberg indicating he has been having too many highs and lows. Its nice to have such strong racers entering F1 and a nice pack of next generation including perez, kobayashi, di resta and hulk.

    9. Di Resta: Has been inconspicuous in most of the weekends but picking up points very regularly. He is ahead of Massa and just below schumacher and maldanado all in vastly superior equipments. Force india has been a disappointment this year but their drivers have been fairly impressive.

    10. Button: Poor middle of the season for Button. But vastly unfair to compare him to Massa just after convincingly beating Hamilton in 2011. As of the moment he is 40 points behind Hamilton compared to Massa who is 140 points behind Alonso and it is conceivable he is going to beat hamilton in some races at the least in 2nd half. He is out of the championship for sure but his recent pace has been healthy and we might have good fight for constructors with his renewed race results.

    11. Kobayashi : Again unfairly considered having a bad season compared to Perez. Except the 2 weekends that Perez ended up on podium, Kobayashi if anything has been more consistent and faster than Perez many times. Overall there is nothing much between them on race pace and it is sad that one of the best overtakers in the field is not being spoken off in connection to big teams while Perez seems to be on everyone’s radar.

    12. Hulkenberg: Seems to have better qualifying pace than Di Resta of late and having been out of F1 for a year, it was expected Di Resta will outrace in the beginning. Now that he is up to speed we might have very strong fight between teammates in latter half of the season. They are the closest matched teammates and sets up an intriguing battle.

    13. Schumacher: Unlucky many times but also as usual(since his return) involved in too many incidents. Rosberg is going to end this year ahead of Schumacher again but does anyone care any longer ? Was nice to see Schumi back on podium but he eats his tires too easily during races to be of threat to frontrunners. If car is improved expect Rosberg to be more on podium than schumi. 13th place was for this pole position (before penalties) :)

    14. Kovalainen: I have been surprised by the rating given by other fanatics for him. His qualifying pace has been excellent but many times Petrov has ended up above him in the races. It is tough to rate guys driving bottom-end cars but i find it difficult to rate him higher than this.

    15. Maldonado : He did alright against Barrichello last year but has been surprisingly fast this season in qualifying. I get scared everytime someone tries overtaking him though and has been atrocious in his defending/overtaking. Could easily been on par with Saubers and Mercedes if not for his incidents.

    16. Senna : Significantly slower than Maldonado in qualifying but not much difference in race pace. Needs to improve quailfying to get consistently into points. I was honestly expecting more from him but it needs to be noted he is driving his first year at Williams compared to maldonado.

    17. Petrov : Never liked this guy after Kubica beat him royally in his first year. But vastly improved since then. Has finished ahead of kovalainen few times and deserves close enough ranking to him.

    18. Ricciardo: Has good one lap pace but bins it in the race often. I think with respect to this season, Torro Rosso has to be compared to bottom 3 teams and put in the list of guys who cant be rated with much certainty.

    19. De la Rosa: Outpaced Karthikeyan whole year. Has been in front of Marussias many times too. Deserves a top 20 rating.

    20. Glock: Is no longer spoken of in same breath as Kovalainen and has been mostly absent in the race videos.

    21. Pic : Has fared better against Glock than the previous teammates of Glock. But has not really been better than Glock as such.

    22. Karthikeyan: Been outqualified by De la Rosa every time but has had decent race pace and has raced with Marussias few times. Was out of f1 for 5 years and never got a penny of benefit of doubt that Schumi got in loads in 2010. If he races the full season for HRT there are lot higher chances of him finishing ahead of de la rosa than massa has in front of alonso.

    23. Massa: Woeful this season. Irrespective of how good Alonso is, it is extremely sad to see teammates split by such huge margins. Has been better of late but only if he finishes in top 10 in championship this year i would think of increasing his ranking.

    24. Vergne: Seems very slow in quailfying and just about alright in races. He is very rarely fighting with guys above like saubers and williams and fighting more often with kovalainen and petrov and thats the reason for this last ranking in the list.

    Uff..this took a lot of time !!
    Though a big fan of Raikkonen, I expect vettel and Hamilton to be main challengers of Alonso this year(hope i am wrong) and Raikkonen to be comfortable 4th.
    Webber, Button and Grosjean will fight for 5th with poor Rosberg pushed down.
    Unless Ferrari has the best car in few races, constructors will be between Red Bull, Mclaren and may be lotus.

    Lets see how my predictions go for the rest of the season !!

  • Profile picture of mrgrieves mrgrieves said 9 months, 2 weeks ago:

    24. Narain Karthikeyan
    Worse of the worse

    23. Daniel Ricciardo
    Should be doing better agains this lest experianced younger team mate

    22. Pedro De La Rosa
    Doing a ok job in awful car. Maybe deserves to be higher

    21. Felipe Massa
    Been pathetic again! will be lucky to be here next term

    20. Bruno Senna
    Hope Hungry is the turning point this season and he goes on to roundly hump Maldanado out of F1

    19. Jean Eric Vergne
    Pants with qualifying but getting the best out of the car in race spec

    18. Vitaly Petrov
    Close enough to Kovalainen to be doing a good job!

    17. Timo Glock
    Been give much more of a test by Pic than any of his other team mates.

    16. Jenson Button
    Take out Austrailia and Button hasnt been far and away the worst driver in a good car except Massa

    15. Charles Pic
    Totally shocked me by beating Glock a few times and never being to far away from him. Impressive debut

    14. Pastor Maldonado
    Barcelona was great. Looks good in austrailia. Not worth while anywhere else

    13. Nico Rosberg
    Has fallen back in my estimations this year. Great first win in China but never looked close to that in any other race

    12. Heikki Kovalainen
    As usual out performing his machine

    11. Kamui Kobayashi
    Not doing much wrong but his team mate has been brilliant

    10. Michael Schumacher
    Finally he’s starting to look like the Schumacher of old. Just a shame about his reliability

    9. Nico Hulkenburg
    Both Force India drivers have been going well in a car thats off the pace of the majority of the cars in the midfield

    8. Paul di Resta
    ^

    7. Sebastian Vettel
    Might be being harsh but his 1 win in the car which was fastst going into the summer has to be a let down.

    6. Mark Webber
    Has sneaked ahead of his team mate with a very consistant season. Could still do better

    5. Lewis Hamilton
    As much as i dislike him he has finally shown some signs of knuckling down and not being a prima donna spoilt brat. But then he does have a rep for playing up to the camera but this about results so here he is

    4. Kimi Raikkonen
    Impressive to be a VERY rare case of coming back and being right on the pace. let himself down by not winning yet with the best car!

    3. Romain Grosjean
    What a turn around from his last time in F1. Given Kimi alot more troubles than we all expected. Hope he can win before the seasons out

    2. Sergio Perez
    Hardest choice was between 1 and 2 Decided overall Alonso has been getting the job done but Perez, his team mate next year has put in multipal brilliant drives in a car which has no right being near the podium

    1. Fernando Alonso
    The best driver in F1 since Schumacher in 2006. THis place will not be threatened by any of the current driveres even the 5 other champions!

  • Profile picture of BasCB BasCB said 9 months, 2 weeks ago:

    Ok, lets have a last minute go at it as well. I am not that good at the ranking stuff its worth a try. Here goes, from the best down:

    1. Alonso – yes me too. He got so much out of a not too great car I would almost start to really like him again. Maybe if he keeps this up till the end of the year!

    2. Hamilton – not sure but he showed exactly what we asked him to do more last year, that is think before you talk and do. And he is certainly able to get that best pace out of the McLaren this year, would be nice to see him follow up and go for a title bid this year.

    3. Webber – He is beating Vettel often enough, had an impressive run of podiums at the start of the year despite a few quali hick-ups, his starts are not as abysmal as last year and his wins were top notch. I fear he won’t be able to beat Vettel over the year, but he might have a shot at it.

    4. Grosjean – He has cut out getting hit at the start now, has been on the podium often enough and I was impressed by how he had enough reason not to crash out when kimi passed him in Hungary and in Valencia he had a moment like that when he gave way to Alonso. He does need a tad more of knowing when to push and when to wait though.

    5. Raikkonen I admit I did not expect too much from him, and the first races showed how long it takes to get back in a rithm. But by now he could well be favourite to win the next two races and its not impossible that he will be part of the championship battle. Good job Iceman.

    6. Rosberg – I know, the past few races have not been that great, but that is more to do with Mercedes not finding the right approach than with Rosberg not going for it. After all, when Vettel admits ist Rosberg that is the one to watch at Mercedes that means something.

    7. Maldonado – Australia showed he could do it, but his patience got the better of him. Barcelona he nailed it. But if he does not get back to thinking more about what to do on track he will certainly not be this high up at the end of the year.

    8. Vettel – this low? Yes, this low. Sure, he has been close enough, but his car has been good enough as well. This year at the start he seemed to be looking for something and has not really found it yet. But I think he will get back towards the top before the end of the year.

    9. Perez – I probably should have put him higher up. And i would have done so after the first 4 races. But be it the car or whatever, he has not been quite up there lately. Still think he should have made more of Malaysia though (team getting cold feet with the pitstops?) But clashing with Maldonado a couple of times now was not the best, even if the blame for those incidents lies with Maldonado. He does have potential though.

    10. Kovalainen – He has his team mate in check, at least in qualifying. Llooks to know exactly where hes going and seems to get the most out of the car almost every weekend. I do think he needs the Caterham to improve a bit, but then he might be seen in front of both the STR cars more often than not.

    11. Hulkenberg – His first few races were probably more to do with getting back into a trot (we saw it with Grosjean, Senna, Kimi as well). And the car is not as good as it was last year. But he has been close enough in the last couple of races. I hope to see more of it.

    12. Petrov – He has been close enough to his teammate and I think he is showing he is a good driver for a mid grid team. And while he mostly starts behind Heikki he managed to beat him in the race more often than expected.

    13. Button – almost forgot about him, who would have thought that after the first 2 races? Button showed the same inconsistency we saw in 2010. Guess its not his season really what with the hard to get tyres, maybe he is overreacting with his setup again.

    14. Schumacher – He did have a lot of bad luck and some of his drives showed why he was great. But there’s also been too many costly failures from him. Not sure if I am not putting him higher than deserved.

    15. Kobayashi – not as superb as his first season, but in the second 4th of the season he has started to race as we like again and has shown he is still there.

    16. Bruno Senna – Just not fast enough in qualifying and to many mistakes. Seemed to put to much pressure on himself at times so far. He did start to catch up though (as FW mentioned) and who knows, he could be the real thing.

    17. Vergne – I really dont know why people are saying he is that bad. For a rookie to struggle in qualifying is pretty normal and some of his driving esp. on wet tracks has been very good. Not to mention getting some points on the board and having so far outraced his teammate.

    18. Pic – he has beaten Glock several times, has been catching the guys in front and seems to be doing a very solid job, altough its hard to judge with the car he’s in.

    19. Pedro de la Rosa I am impressed with how far they’ve come and how he has been able to get that car to go as good as it has been going.

    20. Ricciardo – sorry just not really impressed. Might be its more the car to blame than him but hm.

    21. Di Resta – oops, a bit far down for Paul this. In reality he has not been that far behind his teammate. And the car did not help, but I have not seen anything special from him so far this year (or did I forget?) He’s not even on the BBC each race anymore :-) (altough Sky show that chopper flight at Silverstone 10 times each race weekend).

    22. Karthikeyan – Sure, he is over his best before date by now. But I think he is not doing that bad actually.

    23. Massa Now I know the little Brazilian is not the only one to blame and he did show good pace in Silverstone. But he still has been miles off Alonso so far, sorry Felipe.

    24. Glock – not sure what’s up with him this year. He seems to be not really there, remember that sickness? And he got beaten by his teammate too often for a driver of his skill.

  • Profile picture of MahavirShah MahavirShah said 9 months, 2 weeks ago:

    1 – Fernando Alonso : Alonso would be on top of this list even if he were not leading the WDC. That the Ferrari was a near wreck at the start of the season is easily forgotten. Not only has Alonso shown his wonderful racing skills, he has also shown intelligence and understanding of strategy as well. So many of his drives this year have been examples of how to drive, under pressure, ahead of the field, in a pack, off the start line, while overtaking, while being overtaken and so on. Clearly, he is a shoo in to win 1st place in these rankings and no less deserved.

    2- Mark Webber : I think Mark gets this vote from me not because of his position in the standings but for the fact that after being beaten – no, after being pummeled – by Sebastian last year, he has come back amazingly strong and focused. I do think that it was partly due to the confidence he had early in the year when the car suited him but not Sebastian. In any case he has done very well for me and has also had some great races.

    3- Lewis Hamilton : Lewis has had to cope with a lot of disappointment this season. Maybe he would be thinking that he should have been higher in the standings if not for a lot of unfortunate and at times avoidable errors. Nonetheless, he has driven very well.

    4- Kimi Raikkonen : Kimi has finished what Romain has always started. It has become almost routine that Romain is the qualifier and Kimi become the finisher. Time away from the sport has clearly not dampened the desire one bit. Nor has the skill and the guile reduced. Kimi has always been so close to the top of the podium that it can become frustrating. However, I think we might see him get one, very soon. Can you say Spa ?

    5- Romain Grosjean : The second Lotus driver has shown skill that at times equals Kimi. He has always qualified well and has shown a great level of understanding of his team mate. I consider him to be the best team player on the grid. Nonetheless, he has been a welcome addition to the grid.

    6- Sergio Perez : I rate him higher than a lot of the drivers on the grid for his skill. Agreed that the Sauber is good on its tyres but Sergio takes it to the next level. I think even the top teams must be afraid if Perez is behind them because he is most likely on a “one-stop less” startegy. I see him driving for some big team pretty soon.

    7- Vettel : Vettel has kind of disappointed this year. While he is third on the standings, I expect that Lewis and Kimi will have a fair chance to overtake him very soon. It almost seems like without the car he is not the champion he was. Something like Tony Stark without the Iron Man suit. Very Mortal.

    8- Massa : This year Massa seems to be driving better and more confidently. His curse will always be to be compared to Alonso who always drives at 110%. He does not have the points yet but I am hoping he will have them soon enough.

    9- Schumi : Again, like Massa he has had the best year since his return to F1. A pole that wasn’t at Monaco and a 3rd place finish as well. Also has outshone his younger team mate this year. Let down by the car once again.

    10- Kobayashi : Kamui has driven the Sauber to its potential and entertained with his driving as well.

    11- Hulkenberg : I rate Hulkenberg higher than Button and Rosberg because it seems that he has been able to get more out of his car than the other 2 and Di Resta. The form guides will also show that Nico has been ahead of Paul for quite a few races now. Also, I don’t remember him getting into any incidents, his only penalty being a gearbox change.

    12- Button : Looks like his form is on the upswing but at this point 12 in my opinion reflects his struggles with the McLaren and the problem does not seem to be with the car.

    13- Rosberg : Like Button, has looked listless this season except that one win.

    14- Di Resta : Lot of promise, not being fulfilled. Ahead on points but form seems to be dropping. Hope Im wrong.

    15- Bruno Senna : Hasn’t done much of note in a highly superior Williams.

    16- Heiki : Again has driven beyond the Caterham’s potential. To think what he could achieve in a better team.

    17- Maldonado : I really wanted to drop him lower. I have been appalled at his driving and his attitude. I don’t think F1 is the place for a driver who barges into another driver. Consider that he is the most penalized driver this year and nearly the most last year as well I think. Skills and performances cannot make up for actions like that.

    18- Daniel : Better than Vergne

    19- Vergne : Not as good as Daniel.

    20- Glock
    21- Pedro De La Rosa : Has kept the HRT on the track and driven it to or beyond its potential.
    22- Pic
    23- Narain Karthikeyan : Stable and decent driving. Has kept out of everyones way yet 24 is all he can get.

  • Profile picture of katederby katederby said 9 months, 2 weeks ago:

    @BasCB Agree with your list, good comments on Webber, Vettel, Vergne, Pic, and de la Rosa. The last three don’t get the credit they deserve, it’s too easy to forget that rookies and even HRT drivers can do a good job too.

  • Profile picture of Keith Collantine Keith Collantine said 9 months, 2 weeks ago:

    Thanks to everyone who’s contributed here. The first part of the driver rankings will be on the site later today.

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