An F1 calendar query/ challenge
20th June 2011, 20:15 at 8:15 pm #129614
OK, this probably isn’t really worthy of a Forum topic, but I can’t think of anywhere else to put it. It’s too long for Twitter, and too random for the round-up. It seems a bit complicated as well so I hope people can make sense of my ramblings!
Anyway, I was thinking about how much the calendar has changed over the years, and I wondered how long you’d have to go back to find a sequence of 3 (or more) consecutive Grand Prix’s which are no longer on the calendar.
I reckon you’d have to go back to 2006 to find a three race sequence of circuits which aren’t on the 2011 calendar: Indianapolis, Magny Cours and Hockenheim. Also, the race that preceded that sequence, Montreal, wasn’t on the calendar in 2009, so there was a brief period where all four circuits were gone. However, Hockenheim still has a GP every two years, so maybe it doesn’t count?
So, are there any other statto’s out there who can think of any more multiple race sequences from past calendars that have now disapeared?20th June 2011, 20:30 at 8:30 pm #171651
Kyalami-Long Beach-Zolder20th June 2011, 20:31 at 8:31 pm #171652
A quick Wiki check says that the “first” time 3 circuits which are no longer on the calendar were together was 1953 – Autódromo Juan y Óscar Gálvez, Indianapolis and Zandvoort (although that is the oval Indy circuit, so it’s a grey area). The next year Zandvoort was not on the calendar.
And there would have been non-championship races in between, I imagine.
Oh and another from 1959 which smashes that – Indianapolis, Zandvoort, Reims, Aintree, AVUS and Monsanto Park. Only Monaco and Monza remain today!20th June 2011, 20:34 at 8:34 pm #171653
If it was a pre-2001 season you were looking at I would definitely count Hockenheim as “no longer on the calendar” even if there is a race at a circuit of the same name but only half the track.
I went back as far as 1987 and got a run of Estoril – Jerez – Hermanos Rodriguez (Portugal, Spain, Mexico). I’ve not trawled extensively, however interesting to note that 4/7 of the circuits on the original 1950 F1 season are still used in the current season, albeit changed quite a lot (Silverstone, Monaco, Spa & Monza)20th June 2011, 20:40 at 8:40 pm #171654
No sequence of words could sound any sweeter to an F1 fan; Silverstone, Monaco, Spa & Monza.
Ichtyes I think found it despite the fact it’s a lot more than three, I was going to suggest finding a calendar that didn’t include 3 from this season but he’s found it. Why wasn’t Silverstone raced that year?20th June 2011, 20:41 at 8:41 pm #171655
I had actually thought initially that a more recent season such as 2006 or 2005 might have had it because Bahrain is no longer on the calendar, but not quite20th June 2011, 20:45 at 8:45 pm #171656
Not sure but it rotated a lot in the 1960s between Aintree, Silverstone and Brands Hatch.
Aintree would be a genius question to have in an F1 quiz. Well, that and Brooklands, but there was no F1 back then!20th June 2011, 21:31 at 9:31 pm #171657
Icthyes, I was thinking more recent examples than that! There must be a few from the 90′s?20th June 2011, 22:00 at 10:00 pm #171658
Historian’s habit ;-)
At one point the 1990, 1994 seasons had 4, but Suzuka came back to the calendar and in 1995 there were 5 (Estoril, Nurburgring, Aida, Suzuka, Adelaide – this was only a valid example in the 2008 season)! 1996 had a run of Buenos Aires, Nurburgring and Imola.
But if Nurburgring doesn’t count then there are currently none from the 90s.
1963 is another example – USA, Mexico, South Africa. I think that’s the earliest time there were 3 countries in a row not currently on the calendar that “actually” count (USA was at Watkins Glen and its own F1 race, not the Indy 500)20th June 2011, 23:24 at 11:24 pm #171659
What an unusual question! I tried thinking for about 30 seconds then I thought; “Hang on, why does he want to know this?!” :P21st June 2011, 7:45 at 7:45 am #171660
If you’re allowed to count two seasons, there’s quite a run from the end of 1988 to 1989: Estoril, Jerez, Suzuka (well, it was dropped), Adelaide, Jacarepaqua, Imola.21st June 2011, 12:26 at 12:26 pm #171661
Similarily, Damon, I thought to myself “why would anybody chose to spend their evening going through all 44 pages of the F1 Fanatic Forum archives??” Haha!21st June 2011, 12:38 at 12:38 pm #171662
I once made a wonderful spreadsheet with years across the top, and grand prix down the side (in order they first appeared in the championship), and coloured in each box in-between where a grand prix was held in a given year.
What a wonderful spreadsheet that was, although I may have deleted it. I’ll have to make it again.21st June 2011, 12:38 at 12:38 pm #171663
Not all of us have exciting lives like you!21st June 2011, 13:09 at 1:09 pm #171664
Yes, my exciting life which has involved me leaving the house about 3 times in the last week, haha…
Alex, I’m pretty sure I’ve seen on of those before. I think they used to have them in the back of the Formula One Yearbooks I used to collect
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