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Button passed Hamilton on points

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    then why even bother raising and commenting on this topic (Button outscoring Hamilton over three years) if we’re not supposed to put the result in perspective?

    @sebsronnie Sure you can. But Hamilton’s misfortunes have been mentioned a lot of times already, this thread started as a mere comment on the facts. There’s a lot to be put in perspective, I personally think it’s a shame people spend most of their time on the ‘Hamilton retired from the lead a couple of times’ perspective, while so much more has happened in the past 3 years.

    @freelittlebirds I’m no believer of Karma, but being moved out of Williams to a dreadful Benetton/Renault, joining the sinking BAR/Honda ship, to hit it big in 2009 and being picked up by McLaren is hardly a lucky career. To be honest, I didn’t start appreciating Button until 2010 because it had seemed his bursts of brilliance in 2004 and 2006 were luck, but personally, he has proven me wrong.

    As for Lewis, a shortage of luck does not bring you anything. Jean Alesi was unlucky as well, but everyone considered him a great driver. He, unlike your view on Fangio, managed to pick Ferrari over Williams, join a faulting Benetton and being pushed into minor teams later. Heck, people were sure Alesi was a future world champion, but then Schumacher happened. Guys like Trulli, Fisichella, Barrichello, etc were all ‘unlucky’ to drive in a time where one team had dominance and none of them were the number 1 driver of Williams, McLaren or Ferrari. In that respect, you could state Hamilton is unlucky to drive at a time where we have him, Alonso, Vettel, Raikkonen, plus guys like Button and future talents like Perez and Hulkenberg.

    Luck is important, but how lucky was Narnain Kathikeyan for Hamilton’s failure in Singapore? What did Paul di Resta gain from Hamilton’s DNF in Spa? In order to maximize luck, you have to be there to take it. Call Button, Fangio, Alonso, whoever as lucky as you wish, F1 isn’t all about luck.

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    http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2012/11/hamilton-and-buttons-head-to-head-record-at-mclaren/

    take a look at that article from James Allen – a good in depth analysis on their time as team mates.

    Most telling statistic to me – Ahead in two-car finish: Hamilton 24 / Button 13

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