Can anyone help find this stat? (11 posts)

Topic tags: starting, stat
  • Profile picture of sohebbasharat sohebbasharat said 5 months, 2 weeks ago:

    Hello! Is there a stat about the average starting position of the race winner over the years?? It would be interesting to see whether its become easier or difficult over the years to win a race given a particular starting position….

  • Profile picture of mnmracer mnmracer said 5 months, 2 weeks ago:

    Working on it :)

  • Profile picture of mnmracer mnmracer said 5 months, 2 weeks ago:

    Average starting position by the winner
    2003: 3,19
    2004: 2,17
    2005: 3,16
    2006: 2,67
    2007: 1,47
    2008: 1,78*
    2009: 2,18
    2010: 2,00
    2011: 1,95
    2012: 2,40

    *excluded Fernando Alonso’s Singapore win

  • Profile picture of Slr Slr said 5 months, 2 weeks ago:

    Some nice work there, nice job.

    For those who want to include Alonso’s Singapore 2008 win, the 2008 average goes up to 2.56.

  • Profile picture of sohebbasharat sohebbasharat said 5 months, 2 weeks ago:

    @mnmracer
    Awesome Work!! It seems like it has got slightly difficult to win races from further back. Can you please extend it further back?

    And another stat if you know,,,, What is the pole to win ratio of some of the top drivers of all times? like Senna, Schumacher, Vettel, Alonso, Prost, Fangio……………

  • Profile picture of mnmracer mnmracer said 5 months, 2 weeks ago:

    @sohebbasharat
    I’d have to start manually calculate it, so another time ;-)
    If you give me 3 seasons, I’ll do those for you.

    As for your next request, I think you might find this article interesting: Winning from the front

  • Profile picture of sohebbasharat sohebbasharat said 5 months, 2 weeks ago:

    @mnmracer
    Thanks a lot. No Problem. Another time perhaps, when you find time. …

  • Profile picture of Journeyer Journeyer said 5 months, 2 weeks ago:

    Would love to see the 2002 stat, for the fun of it. Hahaha!

    Great work, @mnmracer! Interesting that for all the wonders of DRS, this year’s average is actually worse than 2006 – a season clearly dominated by Ferrari and Renault. 2012 is also worse than 2003, despite the comparisons those two seasons got for the number of winners they had.

  • Profile picture of mnmracer mnmracer said 5 months, 2 weeks ago:

    1,88 for 2002.

    I don’t think DRS really does that much for battles at the front, as -despite our romanitsized memories- they are not usually thought that close, and when they are, it is not usually between drivers that need DRS.

    Now the mid- and backfield…
    2011 actually had the most overtakes since 1991.

  • Profile picture of Journeyer Journeyer said 5 months, 2 weeks ago:

    @mnmracer 1.88? Meaning 2002 had a better ratio than 2007? That doesn’t sound right at all. :)) Oh, now I know why! Because JPM couldn’t win from pole. Ha!

    2011?? Since 1991?? How did 2012 do?

  • Profile picture of mnmracer mnmracer said 5 months, 2 weeks ago:

    2011 had 1172 overtakes, or 60.63 overtakes per GP
    2012 had 1135 overtakes, or 56.75 overtakes per GP

    2010 was already a peak, with 28.79 overtakes per GP (547 total)
    before that, it was mostly 10 – 18 overtakes per GP.

    1991 had 495 overtakes, or 30.94 overtakes per GP.

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