F1 Fanatic

The general consensus on the build up for the British GP regarding the upcoming ban of the off-throtle blown diffusers is that all teams will suffer more or less equally. Except maybe, the teams that haven’t been able to implement that concept, which according to the wikipedia 2011 Brit. GP page are the Cosworth-powered ones (Virgin, Hispania and Williams) and the Ferrari costumers Sauber and Toro Rosso. They say 1 second is what the teams will be slower because of the ban, but it won’t be noticeable because they’ll all lose the same second. What everybody is forgetting is the other teams: With the recent form of the Saubers, will we finally see a podium finish (with luck maybe a win?) for Kobayashi or/and Perez? Will the Williams be able to reach (or pass) Mercedes/Renault or even Ferrari/McLaren? (remember Mónaco, low-downforce track, where the BD didn’t have that much effect, the form of Maldonado and Barrichello?)

And finally, will the backmarckers be able to scramble into the midfield, which of course would be great because it’s kind of painfull to watch for more than a year now those career-destroying (Glock? Kovaleinen?) moving chicanes doing nothing more than circle around and ocasionally ruin somebody else race? Well, 1 second still won’t be enough, but it will give them a push (I’m not sure about Team Lotus, as they’re not mention on the source as not benefiting from the O-T BD, hopefully they’re not and for them it would be enough)

I though every team bar the Cosworths were hot-blowing their diffusers? So I don’t see Sauber coming too much into the picture, just a bit more than usual.

though the arguments are valid (I also included a source, Itchyes -> i’m talking about off-throtle bla-bla-bla, that’s what’s banned from Silverstone and what they say the Cosworth engine/Sauber/TR can’t do; don’t know about just hot-blowing diffusers, I assume they all do that by now);
the point was to raise different opinions, yes, but with fundamentation, not autophagic proposals…

I thought it was the other way around (to blow off throttle you had to hot-blow in the first place), it makes more sense, this way, the wiki article would be right into deducing they’re not off-trohttle blowing by citing an article that states they’re not hot-blabla; but I don’t know

again, by stating they are cold-blabla (first time I’ve heard about this new kind of blabla) you can’t say they won’t advance that much; they’ll advance as much as the others that are not off-throttle blabla, because the ban is only about off-throttle blabla

did you read anything of the thread, Prisoner Monkeys?

I can’t wait for the next GP’s.. I wonder how are we gonna enforce Ned Flanders to keep his promise?

Okay, let’s sort out this mess.

Off-throttle blowing of the diffuser is when you engineer the engine map to allow gases to continue to flow through the exhaust into the diffuser. This is also known as cold-blowing to separate it from hot-blowing, which is tweaking the engine map to continue to burn fuel even though the throttle is not being pressed. Hot-blowing gives a greater advantage than cold-blowing.

HBD is the more advanced version of OTBD, it even says so in the BBC article linked to in the Wiki page. I thought Sauber were hot-blowing because the Ferrari engine can do it, however it’s not as simple as turning it on, there’s some car designing to be done too, so maybe they never got that far. I haven’t seen anything that says they’re not blowing their diffuser in the first place – in fact when HRT threatened to protest the diffusers in Spain and Monaco, Sauber were not named as one of the teams that would be safe. Only Virgin and HRT aren’t blowing off-throttle, to the best of my knowledge.

So, Sauber will not advance as much as fighting regularly for podiums.

I agree with Prisoner Monkeys.