F1 Driver Hierarchy
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- 11th October 2010, 20:58 at 8:58 pm #128179M.M.CParticipant
I’m curious as to how you lot here, rate the current F1 Drivers.
There are 4 Tiers; Tier 1 being the best, and Tier 4 being the worst.
Tier 1:
Kubica, Hamilton, Button, Vettel, Webber, Alonso.
Tier 2:
Rosberg, Kobayashi, Massa, Sutil, Barrichello.
Tier 3:
Trulli, Kovalinen, Glock, Poomacher, Hulkenburg, Petrov, Luizzi, Buemi, Alguersuari, and Heidfeld (For now…)
Tier 4:
Yamamoto, Senna, Chandhok, Di Grassi, De la Rosa.
I look forward to your own hierarchy. :]
11th October 2010, 21:14 at 9:14 pm #147112HairsParticipantPretty much spot on, a couple of changes:
Tier 1:
Button, Hamilton, Vettel, Webber, Alonso, Kubica.
Tier 2:
Rosberg, Kobayashi (on the cusp of 1), Massa, Kovalinen, Barrichello
Tier 3:
Sutil, Trulli, Glock, Alguersuari, Heidfeld, Hulkenburg, Schumacher
Tier 4:
Buemi, Yamamoto, Senna, Chandhok, DiGrassi, De la Rosa, Liuzzi, Petrov (on the cusp of 3)
11th October 2010, 21:14 at 9:14 pm #147113AnonymousInactiveTier 1
Fernando Alonso (Schumi in his old form)
Tier 2
Massa, Hamilton, maybe Kubica, Jenson for racing brain and craft, Webber, Vettel
Tier 3
Rosberg, Rubens
Tier 4
the rest but they have their own mini tier system. Basically very good drivers but nothing special.
in his own tier – Yamamoto.
Good thread by the way.
11th October 2010, 21:15 at 9:15 pm #147114ScribeParticipantWe had a thread like this in the last forum, I kinda like these why not.
Tier 1. The Real Deal
Alonso Hamilton and Kubica. (Schuey Circa 1993-06)
Tier 2. Contenders in the Right Car
Button Webber Vettle Rosberg
Tier 3. Winners in the Right Car
Barrichello Sutil Glock Schumacher Kovalinen
Tier 4. Podium Potential
Truli Kobayashi Hulkenburg Heidfeld Klien
Tier 5 Occasional Points
Luizzi Buemi Algesuari Di Grassi De La Rosa Chandock Senna
Tier 6 What's he even doing here?
Yamamoto
11th October 2010, 21:39 at 9:39 pm #147115sbl on tourParticipanttier 1, hamilton , button and alonso.
after all they are world champions, webber, vettel and kubica havnt done it yet and it will be interesting to see which of the 3 actually do!
I have excluded herr s, as he is a has been and I never liked his ruthless/cheating streak
Most of the rest are mere journeymen and make up the numbers, bit like the premier league I suppose
11th October 2010, 21:42 at 9:42 pm #147116GeorgeParticipantI’ll play. Based on this season’s form, roughly in order left to right also
Tier 1:
Alonso – Hamilton – Vettel – Kubica
Tier 2:
Button – Webber – Rosberg – Heidfeld
Tier 3:
Barrichello – Kovalainen – Massa – Kobayashi – Sutil – Glock – Schumacher – Di Grassi – Trulli
Tier 4:
Klien – De la Rosa – Hulkenburg – Buemi – Petrov
Tier 5:
Alguesuari – Liuzzi – Senna – Chandhok – Yamamoto
Think that’s everyone
11th October 2010, 21:45 at 9:45 pm #147117ScribeParticipantErr, my excluding Massa wasn’t deliberate, I’d put him in Tier 2 in 08/09 form and in Tier 3/4 this year.
I’m suprised you have Alonso way out on his own like that Steph, that much better than Hamilton? 2007? All opinion of course.
I think 4 tiers isn’t enough tiers, Webber and Alonso don’t belong on the same tier, Vettle Kubica, Hamilton Button etc.
Vettle is fantastic over 1 lap, and at the front, he’s got the car to take advantage of that fact but almost every other aspect of his racecraft is lacking, true great, I don’t think so, get a Hamilton or an Alonso next to him he’ll crumble superfast. Webber’s a battler but again he doesn’t go beyond his car, Buttons a tactical wizz but again, can’t stretch beyond his car.
Controversial but I reckon if Truli was in the same car as Vettle he’d do just as well. Monaco 04.
11th October 2010, 21:54 at 9:54 pm #147118David-AParticipantTier 1
Alonso, Hamilton, Vettel, Schumacher 1992-2006
Tier 2
Button, Webber, Rosberg, Kubica
Tier 3
Schumacher 2010, Massa, Barrichello, Sutil, Kobayashi
Tier 4
Trulli, Hulkenberg, Heidfeld, Klien, Kovalainen
Tier 5
Buemi, Alguersuari, De La Rosa, Chandhok, Senna
Tier 6
Yamamoto, Petrov, Liuzzi, Di Grassi
11th October 2010, 22:05 at 10:05 pm #147119M.M.CParticipantFair enough, add more Tiers if you like. Y’know, some interesting choices there; I guess we all agree the GP2 drivers who joined this year, are finding F1 life hard.
11th October 2010, 22:06 at 10:06 pm #147120DKParticipantTier 1
Alonso Hamilton Kubica and Old Schumacher
Tier 2.
Button Webber Vettel Rosberg Massa
Tier 3.
Barrichello Sutil Glock Schumacher Heidfeld Kobayashi
Tier 4
Trulli Hulkenberg Kovalainen Petrov
Tier 5
Luizzi Buemi Algesuari Di Grassi De La Rosa Chandock Senna
Tier 6
Yamamoto
11th October 2010, 22:31 at 10:31 pm #147121IcthyesParticipantTier 1:
Alonso, Hamilton, Vettel
Tier 2:
Button, Kubica, Massa, Rosberg, Webber
Tier 3:
Glock, Heidfeld, Hulkenburg, Kobayashi, Kovalainen, Sutil, Trulli
Tier 4:
Liuzzi, Petrov
The rest have yet to be tested to any accurate degree, in my book, that’s if you consider Yamamoto a driver at all (for the record, I am withholding judgement on Schumacher)
11th October 2010, 23:03 at 11:03 pm #147122HareParticipantTier 1
Schumacher 1992-2006 ( so refined, compared to mistake ridden contemporary drivers ),
Alonso (emotional, driven, talent),
Hamilton (most talent, still raw, not a great thinker, not perfected),
Tier 2
Button(solid, reliable, thinker),
Webber (fast, passionate, mistakes),
Vettel(fast, impetuous, mistakes!),
Kubica(not enough car, fast, intelligent, racecraft!),
Rosberg(good, gettind better, solid),
Tier 3
Schumacher 2010 (finding the old rhythm, but very slowly, doesn’t use simulators?),
Massa (heart broken? going backwards? mentally defeated?),
Barrichello (still quality driver, possibly revival this year),
Sutil (anonymous this year),
Kobayashi (raw, he wont be in this tier long)
Tier 4
Kovalainen (Should be in Tier 3),
Trulli, Hulkenberg, Heidfeld, Klien,
Tier 5
Buemi, Alguersuari, De La Rosa, Chandhok, Senna
Just Tears!
Yamamoto (Ramamoto), Petrov (Please be good, my gf is Russian!), Liuzzi, Di Grassi (as in, off on di grassi)
I added some of my feelings about the various drivers.
12th October 2010, 10:35 at 10:35 am #147123AnonymousInactiveSorry my reply is so late Scribe!
I’m taking everything into account not just this season and for me, Alonso is the full package head and shoulders above the rest. He is consistent (not as comfortable saying that this year), overtakes, works out strategy, moulds a team around him, is always there to capitalise when it goes wrong for the opposition and his only real let down is his qualifying although he seems to have worked on that.
Hamilton is still error prone at times although his level of maturity this year means he’s somewhere inbetween tier 1 and 3 for me on that level but I personally don’t think he can work out a strategy. It’s great because he has a team like Mclaren which is exactly what he needs but I think he’d find life harder in that area if he was at say, Williams. Just my opinion of course and I do have a great amount of respect for him but to me Fernando has a bit more substance to Hamilton’s wonderful style.
12th October 2010, 10:43 at 10:43 am #147124AnonymousInactiveTier 1 (contenders, developers, winning even with poor cars): Hamilton, Alonso
Tier 2 (contenders when the car is right): Button, Webber, Vettel, Massa, Kubica (on the verge with 1)
Tier 3: (winners when the car is right): Rosberg, Glock, Kovalainen, Trulli, Barrichello, Sutil, Kobayashi, Schumacher, Heidfeld
Tier 4: (not entirely pay drivers) Petrov, Hulkenberg, di Grassi, Liuzzi, de la Rosa, Klien, Senna, Buemi, Alguersuari, Chandhok
Tier 5 (entirely paydrivers): The One And Only Sakon-san. Amen.
12th October 2010, 12:41 at 12:41 pm #147125MaccaParticipantTier 1:
Kubica, Hamilton, Button, Vettel, Webber, Alonso, Massa, Schumacher.
Tier 2:
Rosberg, Kobayashi, Sutil, Barrichello, Trulli.
Tier 3:
Kovalinen, Glock, Hulkenburg, Petrov, Luizzi, Alguersuari, Heidfeld, De la Rosa.
Tier 4:
Yamamoto, Senna, Chandhok, Di Grassi, Buemi.
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