F1 Drivers Middle names..
24th March 2011, 8:54 at 8:54 am #129081
Ok, So I’ve NEVER thought about this in my entire life. But, F1 drivers appear to have middle names! Funnily enough, you know some already… here’s a quick peak :
– Mark Alan Webber
– Lewis Carl Hamilton
– Fernando Alonso Dias
– Rubens Goncalves Barrichello
– Jaime Alguersuari Escudero
– Vitaly Aleksandrovich Petrov
..and my personal favourite..
– Jenson Alexander Lyons Button
Have you got any to add? From past eras?24th March 2011, 9:38 at 9:38 am #164758
Damon’s got 2 middle names. A fairly predictable one, and fancy one.
Damon Graham Devereux Hill24th March 2011, 9:46 at 9:46 am #164759
Does Alonso count as a middle name because I believe Dias is his mother’s maiden name which is added to the end of a child’s surname? So although technically it is in the middle doesn’t Alonso count more as a last name?
Joseph Gilles Henri Villeneuve
Jacques Joseph Charles Villeneuve
Albert François Cevert Goldenberg24th March 2011, 9:55 at 9:55 am #164760
Yeah, the way Spanish names work are akin to English double-barrel surnames. Both the father and mother’s surnames are shown (the order is traditionally father’s, then mother’s, although apparently it can be swapped) The same goes for Portuguese (and therefore Brazilian) surnames.
So Jamie and Freddy don’t have a middle name so much as 2 surnames. The same might apply to Rubens too.
Much like Ayrton’s Full name: Ayrton Senna da Silva.24th March 2011, 9:56 at 9:56 am #164761
Yay, Webber has the same middle name as me and Lewis’s middle name is my First name. Who wants to guess my surname?24th March 2011, 10:25 at 10:25 am #164762
Carl Alan Raptorhawk?24th March 2011, 10:41 at 10:41 am #164763
Yup, looks like Rubens is actually Rubens Gonçalves Barrichello…24th March 2011, 10:45 at 10:45 am #164764
Carl Alan Raptorhawk?
I wish…24th March 2011, 11:17 at 11:17 am #164765
I’m disappointed at the lack of two of the most legendary names in human history – Daniel and Kenneth…24th March 2011, 11:36 at 11:36 am #164766
Kimi Matius Raikkonen is the only one I know without research. :24th March 2011, 11:37 at 11:37 am #164767
Carl Alan Funnynotsoman24th March 2011, 12:23 at 12:23 pm #164768
So, does that mean that in an alternate universe there is a Ferrari driver known as Fernando Dias? Maybe Alonso should adopt that name to stop people from calling him “Teflonso”…24th March 2011, 12:25 at 12:25 pm #164769
Kimi Matias Raikkonen.24th March 2011, 12:50 at 12:50 pm #164770
– Nico Erik Roberg
– Nick Lars Heidfeld
– Sébastien Olivier Buemi
– Heikki Johannes Kovalainen
– Pastor Rafael Maldonado
Elsewhere, Michael Schumacher and Sebastian Vettel do not have middle names.
Fernando Alonso Dias
Jaime Alguersuari Escudero
These aren’t actually middle names. Under Spanish naming traditions, a child adopts the surnames of both parents. The father’s surname comes first, then the mother’s. The father’s name is given as the surname, but it’s really down to personal preference. Alonso’s father was named Alonso, and his mother was named Dias; Alguersuari’s father was Alguersuari and his mother Escudero. As Spanish-speaking countries, it’s the same in Mexico and Venezuela – Sergio Perez’s full name is Sergio Perez Mendoza, while Pastor Maldonado’s is Pastor Rafael Maldonado Motta.
That doesn’t mean they can’t have middle names, though. According to Wikipedia, Jaime Alguersuari’s full name is Jaime Victor Alguersuari Escudero.
Vitaly Aleksandrovich Petrov
“Aleksandrovich” is not Petrov’s middle name. It’s his patronym. Russian naming traditions see each child adopt the father’s name. “Aleksandrovich” means “Aleksandr’s son”. Even girls do it; if Petrov had a sister, her patronym would be “Aleksandronova”. Her surname would also be “Petrova”, since Russian names add an “a” to the end of the family name for girls. This creates an odd situation where people from the same family have surnames that sound completely different; Russian tennis player Marat Safin’s surname is pronounced “saff-ihn”, but his sister Dinara’s surname is pornounced “saff-een-ah”.
It’s not the weirdest naming tradition by any means. For that, you have to go to the tiny Himalayan kingdom of Bhutan. Parents usually take their newborn child to a lama (holy man), who names the child. As there are only a few names that are chosen – and they don’t have surnames; only the royal family does (at the opposite end of the spectrum, the Danish royal family does not have a surname) – it’s not uncommon for people to have the same name. In this case, they adopt the name of their town as their “first” name when travelling outside their village. In some cases, you can even have people living under the same roof with the exact same name, in which case they are named for the house they were born in. It’s really quite complex.24th March 2011, 12:58 at 12:58 pm #164771
@ajokay: In spanish and portuguese, most of the times only the father surname is shown.
But in spanish they refer the father surname first and the mothers name next, in portuguese the fathers surname is the last that’s why you have:
FERNANDO ALONSO Diaz
RUBENS Gonçalves BARRICHELLO
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