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F1 Drivers Middle names..

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    Ok, So I’ve NEVER thought about this in my entire life. But, F1 drivers appear to have middle names! Funnily enough, you know some already… here’s a quick peak :

    - Mark Alan Webber

    – Lewis Carl Hamilton

    – Fernando Alonso Dias

    – Rubens Goncalves Barrichello

    – Jaime Alguersuari Escudero

    – Vitaly Aleksandrovich Petrov

    ..and my personal favourite..

    – Jenson Alexander Lyons Button

    Have you got any to add? From past eras?

    #164758
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    Damon’s got 2 middle names. A fairly predictable one, and fancy one.

    Damon Graham Devereux Hill

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    Does Alonso count as a middle name because I believe Dias is his mother’s maiden name which is added to the end of a child’s surname? So although technically it is in the middle doesn’t Alonso count more as a last name?

    Joseph Gilles Henri Villeneuve

    Jacques Joseph Charles Villeneuve

    Albert François Cevert Goldenberg

    #164760
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    Yeah, the way Spanish names work are akin to English double-barrel surnames. Both the father and mother’s surnames are shown (the order is traditionally father’s, then mother’s, although apparently it can be swapped) The same goes for Portuguese (and therefore Brazilian) surnames.

    So Jamie and Freddy don’t have a middle name so much as 2 surnames. The same might apply to Rubens too.

    Much like Ayrton’s Full name: Ayrton Senna da Silva.

    #164761
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    Yay, Webber has the same middle name as me and Lewis’s middle name is my First name. Who wants to guess my surname?

    #164762
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    Carl Alan Raptorhawk?

    #164763
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    Yup, looks like Rubens is actually Rubens Gonçalves Barrichello…

    #164764
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    Carl Alan Raptorhawk?

    I wish…

    #164765
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    I’m disappointed at the lack of two of the most legendary names in human history – Daniel and Kenneth…

    #164766
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    Kimi Matius Raikkonen is the only one I know without research. :

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    Carl Alan Funnynotsoman

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    So, does that mean that in an alternate universe there is a Ferrari driver known as Fernando Dias? Maybe Alonso should adopt that name to stop people from calling him “Teflonso”…

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    Kimi Matias Raikkonen.

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    - Nico Erik Roberg

    – Nick Lars Heidfeld

    – Sébastien Olivier Buemi

    – Heikki Johannes Kovalainen

    – Pastor Rafael Maldonado

    Elsewhere, Michael Schumacher and Sebastian Vettel do not have middle names.

    Fernando Alonso Dias

    Jaime Alguersuari Escudero

    These aren’t actually middle names. Under Spanish naming traditions, a child adopts the surnames of both parents. The father’s surname comes first, then the mother’s. The father’s name is given as the surname, but it’s really down to personal preference. Alonso’s father was named Alonso, and his mother was named Dias; Alguersuari’s father was Alguersuari and his mother Escudero. As Spanish-speaking countries, it’s the same in Mexico and Venezuela – Sergio Perez’s full name is Sergio Perez Mendoza, while Pastor Maldonado’s is Pastor Rafael Maldonado Motta.

    That doesn’t mean they can’t have middle names, though. According to Wikipedia, Jaime Alguersuari’s full name is Jaime Victor Alguersuari Escudero.

    Vitaly Aleksandrovich Petrov

    “Aleksandrovich” is not Petrov’s middle name. It’s his patronym. Russian naming traditions see each child adopt the father’s name. “Aleksandrovich” means “Aleksandr’s son”. Even girls do it; if Petrov had a sister, her patronym would be “Aleksandronova”. Her surname would also be “Petrova”, since Russian names add an “a” to the end of the family name for girls. This creates an odd situation where people from the same family have surnames that sound completely different; Russian tennis player Marat Safin’s surname is pronounced “saff-ihn”, but his sister Dinara’s surname is pornounced “saff-een-ah”.

    It’s not the weirdest naming tradition by any means. For that, you have to go to the tiny Himalayan kingdom of Bhutan. Parents usually take their newborn child to a lama (holy man), who names the child. As there are only a few names that are chosen – and they don’t have surnames; only the royal family does (at the opposite end of the spectrum, the Danish royal family does not have a surname) – it’s not uncommon for people to have the same name. In this case, they adopt the name of their town as their “first” name when travelling outside their village. In some cases, you can even have people living under the same roof with the exact same name, in which case they are named for the house they were born in. It’s really quite complex.

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    @ajokay: In spanish and portuguese, most of the times only the father surname is shown.

    But in spanish they refer the father surname first and the mothers name next, in portuguese the fathers surname is the last that’s why you have:

    FERNANDO ALONSO Diaz

    RUBENS Gonçalves BARRICHELLO

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