Can teams no longer appeal if they fail to beat the 107% time?
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- 19th January 2012, 17:22 at 5:22 pm #130770GeorgeDaviesF1Participant
rumour is teams can no longer appeal after they dont make 107%
19th January 2012, 17:26 at 5:26 pm #190597Oli PeacockParticipantLink?
19th January 2012, 17:57 at 5:57 pm #190598Keith CollantineKeymaster@GeorgeDaviesF1 Yes, this is the case. Article 17.2 of the 2012 sporting regulations says:
Appeals may not be made against decision concerning the following:
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d) Any decision taken by the stewards in relation to Article 36.1.Article 36.1 says:
During Q1, any driver whose best qualifying lap exceeds 107% of the fastest time set during that session, or who fails to set a time, will not be allowed to take part in the race. Under exceptional circumstances however, which may include setting a suitable lap time in a free practice session, the stewards may permit the car to start the race.
Should there be more than one driver accepted in this manner, the grid order will be
determined by the stewards.Note that stewards still have the power to grant dispensations so this does not mean any driver who fails to beat the 107% time or fails to set a time in Q1 will automatically be unable to start the race.
19th January 2012, 18:11 at 6:11 pm #190599matt90ParticipantHad any teams actually made an appeal, successful or not, anyway?
19th January 2012, 18:24 at 6:24 pm #190600AnonymousInactive@matt90 : I know HRT did at Melbourne, obviously unsuccessful. I believe Virgin did once successfully, because D’Ambrosio failed to manage the proper time – I can’t remember where though, although if pressed I’d guess Canada.
Still, not being able to appeal against such a decision will be just as pointless as the entire 107 % Rule itself.
19th January 2012, 18:27 at 6:27 pm #190601Joey-PoeyParticipantI’m with you on that, @klon . I think they should either get rid of it or bump the number higher so it’s more realistically dangerous if a car doesn’t meet it.
19th January 2012, 19:44 at 7:44 pm #190602matt90ParticipantWas D’ambrosia (possibly in Canada) being allowed to race actually the result of an appeal, or did the stewards just recognise immediately that he was capable and allow him to race?
19th January 2012, 21:12 at 9:12 pm #190603AnonymousInactiveThe rule is only ignored if the car has set a faster than 107% time in practice, or the session was wet enough to mess about with the quali times.
19th January 2012, 21:14 at 9:14 pm #190605AnonymousInactivewell, I say only, I mean the rule tends to get ignored for the reasons I posted above.
20th January 2012, 5:17 at 5:17 am #190606raymondu999ParticipantCan’t we just stick to the rules where if the driver sets a time; within FP1 thru to Q1; that is within 107% of the P1 time in Q1; will not start the race? I’m not a big fan of special dispensations otherwise – the rules are rules.
20th January 2012, 5:52 at 5:52 am #190607Prisoner MonkeysParticipantThe rule was not introduced to weed out slow drivers. It was introduced to get rid of slow cars.
20th January 2012, 11:13 at 11:13 am #190608IcthyesParticipantA rule clarifying a rule about a rule that rules when a rule may not apply.
F1!
20th January 2012, 11:28 at 11:28 am #190609raymondu999Participant@prisoner-monkeys no it wasn’t. It was to weed out slow car-driver packages.
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