Hulkenberg ‘too heavy for McLaren’
4th October 2013, 4:47 at 4:47 am #2425344th October 2013, 7:02 at 7:02 am #242535
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I have been up close to Webber & Hulkenburg and they are the same height – Webber maybe a bit higher- 6ft, The hulk maybe a tad wider and Mark leaner (a tad) but really pretty similar- both are not too heavy for F1 but maybe too heavy against a team-mate!!
Why wouldnt the FIA go a maximum car weight and if the driver is heavier, like above so be it??4th October 2013, 16:24 at 4:24 pm #2425374th October 2013, 20:31 at 8:31 pm #242538
@Garns: The thing is Webber, Button, Hulk, Sutil, Lewis and Kimi are decently built to be called athletes but as you mentioned Webber and Hulk are taller when compared to Kimi, Lewis. Sutil and Di Resta are also not too short either. So the thing is – cut down weight by taking on short drivers but they must be strong enough to handle 5 G’s. And that’s asking a lot from drivers. This is the reason why drivers like Wurz, Kubica, Montoya etc are going to be less competitive even if they’re technically more sound.4th October 2013, 22:31 at 10:31 pm #242539
Being the devil’s advocate just for the sake of argument –
why should the FIA (or anyone) worry about this? Physical attributes are important in all sports. The best basketball players are all pretty tall, that’s just how it is. Ski jumpers need to be light and tall football players are usually not too successful. If you’re a capable driver that’s also small and light than you’re better off than someone as capable but taller/heavier. It’s just how it is, life isn’t fair.5th October 2013, 11:00 at 11:00 am #242540
@enigma my problem with that argument though is that in F1 it’s totally unnecessary: height is still a slight disadvantage, granted, but weight shouldn’t be an issue: you could just have a car weight limit at say 600kg and a driver one at 80kg (for the new regulations), so anything under that (say one driver weighs 60kg) has to be added as ballast to the seat, so as not to have it in the usual “preferable” positions.
Height will always be an issue I imagine, but there’s no need for weight to be one.5th October 2013, 13:56 at 1:56 pm #242541
I don’t see why this should be so difficult for the self proclaimed most technically advanced sport in the world. Raising the minimum weight of the car in general isn’t very useful as a 10kg lighter driver will still have 10kg more weight to shuffle around inside the car.
What I think is more sensible: Driver plus seat must weight no less than 85kg (or whatever people think is best). The weight of the seat must be evenly distributed, same density to the material across its entirety (or if there are concerns thats to heavy for safely extracting the driver in case of an accident, make the seat two layered with the inner layer as it is and the outer “weight-layer” removable).
It is true, in most sports it is important to physically be a good fit to the requirements of the sport, but for example in football there are many different kinds of players that can be world class (sometimes because they are different), in ski jumping rules have been amended to better reflect the diversity of the field and in F1 it could be rather simple to make it a bit more fair, then why not?5th October 2013, 14:24 at 2:24 pm #242542
tall football players are usually not too successful.-
Ever heard of Ibrahimovic? Pretty tall, super successful. Also, Manuel Neuer.. i can go on if you want.5th October 2013, 15:36 at 3:36 pm #242543
@aish I know, that’s why I said usually. And I think only a few good footballers have been over 2 metres (Koller springs to mind). But anyway, I’m not too knowledgable about football so feel free to ignore that part of my post and just look at basketball and ski jumping.
@vettel1 You’re right on that, regarding weight it can be solved pretty easily. But if a driver is very tall, that’s just how it is.5th October 2013, 16:55 at 4:55 pm #242544
I think @bananarama has got the right solution and it’s not very complicated either. I’ll endorse that idea.6th October 2013, 8:46 at 8:46 am #242545
Now that Whitmarsh has officially put the word out that they’re not talking to Nico, I wonder what’s in store for him, especially after his immense drive today in Korea. Life is unfair in the short run, but does pay up in the long run, happens to everybody.6th October 2013, 9:02 at 9:02 am #242546
I would hope that given his performance today that Nico could be in the running for the 2nd Lotus seat, has there been any word on who is favourite to fill that spot?6th October 2013, 20:47 at 8:47 pm #242547
@jarred-walmsley According to Ted Kravitz, it’s between Massa and Hulkenberg, with Hulkenberg being the favourite. He deserves the seat, no doubt.7th October 2013, 18:47 at 6:47 pm #242548
Nobody can fill in Kimi’s shoes other than Hulkenberg. He should be the one. If Lotus can get him then they would have got a perfect hedge for the loss of Raikkonen.
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