Hulkenberg to join Sauber (30 posts)

  • Profile picture of Prisoner Monkeys Prisoner Monkeys said 7 months, 1 week ago:

    Alguesuari will be at HRT next season alongside PDLR

    I can’t see that at all.

    It’s funny how people were saying Kamui has sealed his seat after Japan as he got a podium, then because he crashes in Korea thats it he’s out the door

    Particularly since the team said – after Suzuka, but before KIC – that one result would not change their minds about Kobayashi.

  • Profile picture of Kingshark Kingshark said 7 months, 1 week ago:

    Alguesuari will be at HRT next season alongside PDLR

    Alguersuari already says he isn’t going to drive for a mediocre team as them. If he turned a Hispania race seat down for 2012, why should he change his mind now?

  • Profile picture of Prisoner Monkeys Prisoner Monkeys said 7 months, 1 week ago:

    The only conceivable reason that I can think of is that HRT picked up a major backer earlier this year, and that they have started work on their 2013 car and hope to do what Brawn GP did. Or that they have possibly started work on their 2014 car – Marussia have; the regulations were published a year ago – and he wants to hold onto the seat for a year to be in a better position for 2014.

    But I find that to be unlikely.

  • Profile picture of duncanmonza duncanmonza said 7 months, 1 week ago:

    http://www.auto123.com/en/racing-news/f1-jaime-alguersuari-sure-of-2013-comeback?artid=147914

    I’m fairly sure Alguersuari has already been signed to replace Kobayashi. I think Hulkenberg would be driving alongside Alguersuari. Telmex have already announced that they will stay as a sponsor with Sauber for 2013 despite Gutierez not being announced as a driver.

  • Profile picture of raymondu999 raymondu999 said 7 months, 1 week ago:

    @prisoner-monkeys Keeping my ears buried in the paddock, the word is Paul’s not just like that to the media – he apparently is a bit of a prima donna with the mechanics too – and the FIndia mechs don’t really like him too much.

    I really had my image of him somewhat cemented at Spa Q2 last year. He didn’t make the Q3 cut, then on the press, he basically blamed the team, saying he wanted to go/stay out as he foresaw the time not being enough (I forget if he was already in the pits or out on track) and the team called him in.

    I hear that Gutierrez has Kobayashi’s seat, and as in the silly season thread, I posted:

    I hear this was Kobayashi’s last race. Gutierrez steps in for Abu Dhabi and India, before taking part in the young driver test (he’s applicable as he would only have had 2 GPs) and finish the season off, before Hulkenberg steps into Perez’s seat next year.

  • Profile picture of Prisoner Monkeys Prisoner Monkeys said 7 months, 1 week ago:

    @raymondu999 – I wonder if the team would consider letting him go, then. Sure, he subsidises the Mercedes engines, but there is a limit to what the team would be willing to put up with – and Mercedes have a whole host of other drivers waiting in the wings, like Wickens and Merhi.

    And the is also the threat of Mallya’s arrest warrant. I’m curious to see how that plays out, because it jeopardises Mallya’s control over the team. Even if he beats the conviction, he has allegedly put the team (and a few other things, like his IPL team and luxury yacht) up as a guarantee that Kingfisher will pay its debts.

  • Profile picture of raymondu999 raymondu999 said 7 months, 1 week ago:

    @prisoner-monkeys To be fair, the bigwigs only see how Paul is performing on track though. Those who really suffer – if that is the right word – form his nature (ie the mechanics) are those who don’t really have a say in the matter.

  • Profile picture of Prisoner Monkeys Prisoner Monkeys said 7 months, 1 week ago:

    @raymondu999 – I’d like to think that if a driver was so difficult to deal with, there would be avenues for the mechanics and engineers to et the Powers That Be know about it.

  • Profile picture of raymondu999 raymondu999 said 7 months, 1 week ago:

    @prisoner-monkeys Fair point. Perhaps the bigwigs still feel that the points Di Resta brings (he is a good driver on track) in the WCC placing, along with the subsidised Mercedes engines, outweigh the mechanics’ rants on it.

  • Profile picture of Prisoner Monkeys Prisoner Monkeys said 7 months, 1 week ago:

    @raymondu999 – Maybe. And if the team is losing Hulkenberg to Sauber, then they’ll want to keep at least one driver around for continuity purposes.

    As a driver, I’d say di Resta is okay. But if his career progresses any further, then he’s probably going to be a Felipe Massa – a driver employed to back the team’s lead driver up, who won’t get his own shot at the title unless something happens to the lead driver (like Schumacher in 1999).

    Someone somewhere – right when I want it, I can’t seem to find it – mentioned that Force India might look at Sutil as well, but his assault conviction might stand in his way, even if it is a suspended sentence. That same person went on to say that Ma Qinghua had trouble getting into Japan, or was unable to get into Japan, implying that Ma had had some kind of trouble with the law of his own. Does anyone know anything about that?

  • Profile picture of Journeyer Journeyer said 7 months, 1 week ago:

    @prisoner-monkeys Just like that other British driver, Eddie Irvine. Except that Paul is more like the anti-Irvine.

    That Sutil-back-to-FI theory was also mentioned by Eddie on BBC last Saturday. No idea about Ma’s troubles, though.

    As for Jaime, he is a leading contender (along with Sutil) to replace Hulk. He is also talking to Caterham, which may end up having 2 vacancies if Heikki decides he’s had enough. I’m guessing they’ll keep Heikki, though, and may have Charles Pic alongside him.

  • Profile picture of Bradley Downton Bradley Downton said 7 months, 1 week ago:

    With regards to Heikki, he won’t leave Caterham unless he can get a better seat. He is still dearly in love with Formula One (you can tell that), but wants to be winning (as every driver does), and so if he could move to a better team he would. Unfortunately for him, nothing seems’ to have materialised, and the talk in the paddock has moved him from Ferrari to Sauber, back to Caterham, poor sod.

    For some reason, I just cannot see Hulkenberg fitting in at Sauber, he just.. I don’t know, I don’t think it would look right. Even with all the speculation, I would be very surprised if this happened, but happy as well, I like Hulkenberg, and I like Sauber, but I just can’t see them together.

    I’m still amazed so few people are mentioning Alguersuari in any seat for next year. Both Eddie Jordan and the Sky F1 team have left him out of their predictions, even though he has said he will be driving next year. I can’t imagine he would lie about that? What is the point, surely it would just make other teams not even consider offering him a place. He won’t drive for HRT, he refused that seat this year, and would not go there now, plus he has stated the team is somewhere between fifth and seventh in the Constructors Championship, which is Mercedes, Sauber of Force India. Personally, I think Alguersuari should go to Sauber and leave Hulkenberg at Force India, it just seem’s a better fit to me, but then again, I don’t blame Hulkenberg wanting to jump the sinking ship.

    On a side note, them calling Sutil back would be funny. Their team boss is wanted for being in billions of dollars of debt, and one of their drivers wanted for GBH! Might as well just go to a local jail and take all the inmates as mechnics/staff to make it better!

    I can see di Resta staying there next season, but don’t feel he should. He’s had two years now, but what has he really done? Yes he’s had a few good races, but I have to echo exactly what @prisoner-monkeys and @raymondu999 have said about him.

    Oh, and one last thing, @prisoner-monkeys – Sauber may have a tendency to ‘mature’ their drivers, but can you see Kaltenborn putting up with someone like Grosjean or Maldonado? ;) She’s a tough one, it’s how she got to where she is!

  • Profile picture of Prisoner Monkeys Prisoner Monkeys said 7 months, 1 week ago:

    Sauber may have a tendency to ‘mature’ their drivers, but can you see Kaltenborn putting up with someone like Grosjean or Maldonado? ;) She’s a tough one, it’s how she got to where she is!

    It’s precisely because she and the team won’t tolerate it that they would be able to refine both drivers.

  • Profile picture of Bob Bob said 7 months, 1 week ago:

    @prisoner-monkeys – Ma’s “trouble getting into Japan” might have something to do with the dispute between Japan and China over the Senkaku/Diaoyu islands. Don’t want to get too political, but let’s just say that the Japanese and Chinese peoples aren’t on the best of terms right now: anti-Japan riots in Chinese cities, and vice versa. I wouldn’t be surprised if Ma was singled out because of his nationality.

    Back on topic, I think Hulkenberg chose Sauber for the same reason McLaren chose Perez, that is, there weren’t any better options. The top teams have more or less confirmed their driver line-ups for 2013. Mallya’s financial woes and arrest warrant could spell trouble for Force India. With Perez’s departure, there’s a free seat at Sauber, a team that has produced a podium-capable car. I see this as Hulkenberg, faced with limited avenues, taking the best possible way out. It may be a “step sideways” in the eyes of some, but it would seem to be in his best interests.

  • Profile picture of James_mc James_mc said 7 months, 1 week ago:

    One point on the Di Resta primadonna issue – It’s interesting that the mechanics don’t seem to like his attitude towards them, but regarding “if he was at McLaren this season”, surely the team would rather he kept his opinion away from the media rather than coming out blaming the team (as Hamilton has been wont to do on occasion).

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