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  • #127934
    Avatar of pepsiperfect
    pepsiperfect
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    Bernie wanted to make the F1 show more interesting to the viewers, instead of the “boring” dominance of M.Schumacher and Ferrari. So he amended the regulations to encourage more teams and freedom.

    However I think this has spoilt the show. With the regulations as they are, all it is creating is disruption.

    When the regulations allowed, for example Traction Control. The show was more interesting. It is now far worse than when Ferrari / Schumacher were the dominant force. The stability enabled the likes of Hakkinen / JPM to shine, though now nobody shines through – not even Schumacher. This is hurting the show, bernie.

    Give the teams more freedom, to help improve the show.

    #143199
    Avatar of Superted666
    Superted666
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    I would have to disagree pepsipefect.

    All traction control did was take the focus away from the driver’s skill.

    I’d say right now we have 5 very talented drivers in 3 teams that are putting on a great show, its nice to have a title fight.

    Not sure you could say that about the Schu/ferrari days.

    Ed

    #143200
    Avatar of pepsiperfect
    pepsiperfect
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    You misunderstood my use of phrase

    “allowed, for example Traction Control”

    Was just a reference to time period. That phase of the racing regulations brought us champions (Hill, Hakkinen, JeanPablo Montoya) AND the dominance of Schumacher.

    The new era of regulations has only brought Alonso & Button since Schumacher last won the WDC. Not because of their strengths but because the competition simply “fell off the track” (analogy) and not due to driver skill.

    #143201
    Avatar of jonnyw360f1
    jonnyw360f1
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    “That phase of the racing regulations brought us champions (Hill, Hakkinen, JeanPablo Montoya) AND the dominance of Schumacher.”

    I’m sorry? Have I missed JUAN Pablo Montoya becoming world champion?

    “The new era of regulations has only brought Alonso & Button since Schumacher last won the WDC.”

    I’m afraid I’ll have to correct you again, there – Schumacher last won a WDC in 2004. Alonso won in ’05 and ’06, followed by Kimi Raikkonen in 2007 and Lewis Hamilton in 2008. And then Jenson Button in 2009. Short memory, have we?

    And going back to your original argument that in this day and age nobody shines…I think you will find there is FAR more competition. If you want evidence, look at how viewing figures have skyrocketed since 2005..

    Rant, over.

    #143202
    Avatar of Steph90
    Steph90
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    I’m not sure I agree that talent is coming through. We have Alonso, Hamilton, Kubica, Massa, Button, Vet, Webber at the top and some rookie potential. The RBR is mega quick but it isn’t destroying the field in the standings.

    In Schumi’s day there was usually just a two way fight for the title.

    I think things have been better. There’s more driver skill involved with the slick tyres and the banning of TC. The exit of the tyre war has seen more focus on car design and innovation to make them go quicker rather than just focussing on marginal tyres.

    In short, I like it more now.

    #143203
    Avatar of SoLiDG
    SoLiDG
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    Wow I can’t disagree more with you.

    Without aids it’s more down to driver skills, wich is wy Lewis won in 2008 with the second fastest car.

    The strenght of the car will always be very important, that is F1.

    But atm we have a very highly talented crop of drivers. Maybe the best of all time.

    Alonso, Vettel, Hamilton, Button, Schumacher, Massa, Rosberg, Webber…

    All capable of winning the championship.

    No more tyre war or traction/launch control ever for me plz!

    #143204
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    Macca
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    Rosberg capable of winning a championship. Is this a joke, he has not even won a race yet.

    #143205
    Avatar of Atanu
    Atanu
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    @Macca, I would have thought that about Webber until last season… And I think Rosberg is more talented than Webber…

    #143206
    Avatar of Prisoner Monkeys
    Prisoner Monkeys
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    The racing was more interesting with traction control? Sorry, but how do you justify that? If anything, traction control takes driver skill out of the equation.

    #143207
    Avatar of pepsiperfect
    pepsiperfect
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    I did comment after, justifying that I meant the period of racing when traction control was used.

    What has driver skill got to do with “the show” being interesting?

    The point made was NOT about skill, though about viewer entertainment.

    Comments on the statement / view, otherwise start a new thread

    #143208
    Avatar of James_mc
    James_mc
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    With no traction control, the likelihood that a driver makes a mistake (e.g. locks up, flat-spots a tyre, slides wide) will increase. For example witness Barichello’s move on Schumacher at the weekend. Schumacher said that he lost traction and slid coming out of the final turn. If there had been TC it is likely that he wouldn’t have slid and Barichello wouldn’t have been able to dive down the inside of Schumacher

    #143209
    Avatar of TommyB
    TommyB
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    Have you watched the 2010 season? 5 drivers seperated by 1 second place finish with a few races to go. Amazing races, great memories, fantastic moments.

    I couldn’t disagree with you more.

    #143210
    Avatar of James_mc
    James_mc
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    The show was more interesting. It is now far worse than when Ferrari / Schumacher were the dominant force.

    I fail to see how the dominant days of Ferrari/Schumacher were “interesting” or indeed good to watch in any way.

    Saturday: Red cars qualify at the front

    Sunday: Red cars scamper away and Schumi wins. Again. Yay.

    #143211
    Avatar of Steph90
    Steph90
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    “It is now far worse than when Ferrari / Schumacher were the dominant force. “

    Even I like it better now and I’m a Ferrari fan :P

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