Kubica vs, Rosberg (30 posts)

  • Profile picture of Silverkeg Silverkeg said 2 years, 7 months ago:

    There is no denying Rosberg is a great driver, i rate him higher than Button, but for me he lacks the flair and aggession that kubica has. neither driver has made too many mistakes this year but Kubica has made me become a fan of his by simply outstanding driving, same with Kobayashi.

  • Profile picture of Icthyes Icthyes said 2 years, 7 months ago:

    Scribe, why was Rosberg gifted a podium by others dropping out but you don’t point out Kubica benefited the same way in Spa – where he also lost position due to his own fault, like Rosberg did in China? Just seems a bit selective.

    There is no denying Rosberg is a great driver, i rate him higher than Button, but for me he lacks the flair and aggession that kubica has.

    So did Prost. Just saying.

  • Profile picture of Enigma Enigma said 2 years, 7 months ago:

    I rate both of them among the best drivers in f1, alongside Hamilton and Alonso. I think Kubica is a bit faster, but not much.

  • Profile picture of Scribe Scribe said 2 years, 7 months ago:

    Good point, I didn’t rate Kubica’s Spa driver that highly, he lucked out an had the oppourtunity to do better, however he was sensational in qualifying.

    Point remains though, Kubica lucked into 1 podium, Rosberg lucked into all of them. An Australia and Monaco where far more impressive from Kubica then say, Sliverstone and Malaysia. Kubica has also done better when things haven’t worked out, Singapore being quite sensational, do you think Rosberg might have pulled of those passes?

    As had been said above though, Driver X compared to Driver Y threads must be subjective if they are in different machinery. My opinion is that Rosberg has done a solid job and moved up the ranks when others have retired, while Kubica has forced himself into contention and made his own luck.

  • Profile picture of TommyB TommyB said 2 years, 7 months ago:

    Kubica is one of the best drivers in F1. Rosberg has the potential to be.

  • Profile picture of Icthyes Icthyes said 2 years, 7 months ago:

    He might have. People tend to forget Kubica’s speed advantage at that stage of the race. Who knows?

    I don’t see why Rosberg’s China podium was lucky. If it was Kubica I bet people wouldn’t say he was lucky and only made the same mistake the eventual race-winner did.

    Again, to me neither has proven to be at the very top. Brundle comparing Kubica to Alonso was a rare blip by the man. Webber and Button? Sure. Hamilton and Vettel? We’ll see. I think Kubica will prove to be a better driver than Rosberg but at the moment it’s circumstancial.

    Anyway personally, I think the gorilla’s better:

    http://www.f1badger.com/2010/10/polar-bear-gorilla/

  • Profile picture of Dizzy-A Dizzy-A said 2 years, 7 months ago:

    Brundle comparing Kubica to Alonso was a rare blip by the man. Webber and Button? Sure. Hamilton and Vettel? We’ll see.

    Agreed Icthyes. Kubica isn’t there with Hamilton and Vettel yet, like the prople that put him in tier 1 think. Let’s see him in a better car winning races, then i’ll put him amongst Hamilton, Alonso or even Vettel.

  • Profile picture of gabal gabal said 2 years, 7 months ago:

    Kubica has same quality Alonso has – he can extract more performance from midfield car then other drivers. Once he gets a car that can challenge for the wins at every race he will be a very strong championship contender. Rosberg is a good driver as well but I don’t really see him pushing the car beyond its limits. He keeps his head down and does a good job – he is humiliating Schumacher this season after all but he lacks the spark that will push him a bit extra towards the goal. Besides, while in Williams he failed to capitalize when opportunity presented itself (Badoer-like mistake when cruising towards podium finish or even challenging for a win at Singapore).

    My vote goes to Kubica as I think he has that certain “ingredient X” which I don’t see in Rosberg.

  • Profile picture of Alexi Alexi said 2 years, 7 months ago:

    Kubica can’t really extract performance of midfield cars. The only year he beat Heidfeld was when the car was more up to the task so he’s not much better than Räikönnen when the car is bad and it comes to motivation.

    I really don’t get what’s the deal with these guys paired with Heidfeld to be honest – Kubica, Kobayashi who get beaten in qualifying but some showing here and there in the track after getting new tyres and bam, they are the new Ayrton Senna and Heidfeld gets overlooked.

    I’d say right now if you place Kubica alongside Alonso he’d get blown out of the water – Rosberg in the other way could prove a valuable points grabber for Ferrari like Button is doing on McLaren alongside Hamilton.

    Yes, Rosberg may be invisible and Kubica a very nice guy, but nice guys often don’t end up winning championships.

  • Profile picture of electrolite electrolite said 2 years, 7 months ago:

    Sorry Alexi, but how can you make all these statements as if you know everything about drivers and who’s supposed to be better than who? Until Kubica partners Alonso perhaps one day it’ll be very difficult to compare both is you consider all the factors, either psychological or to do with their car, team and team mate. Also, I’m not sure how you attached the ‘nice guy but he can’t cut it’ label to Kubica? He doesn’t really speak that much or give away a lot of his personality at this stage, I don’t think. Both him and Kobayashi are clearly brilliant in their own ways, which they have proved this year. I don’t think we can put drivers on a definite scale as they’re all different, which like I said, is why a thread like this will encourage largely subjective posts.

  • Profile picture of Polishboy808 Polishboy808 said 2 years, 7 months ago:

    @Alexi WTF are you talking about?
    “I really don’t get what’s the deal with these guys paired with Heidfeld to be honest – Kubica, Kobayashi who get beaten in qualifying but some showing here and there in the track after getting new tyres and bam, they are the new Ayrton Senna and Heidfeld gets overlooked.”
    So your saying that Heidfeld is better then Kobayashi AND Kubica? What on Earth are you talking about! Last year, Kubica retired 3 times, all because of Mech. Failures. Heidfeld Retired twice, because of a crash and because he ran out of fuel. So What happened to Kubica was far beyond his control, while Heidfelds singapore crash was avoidable.
    And he finished 2 points ahead of Kubica, who had a full retirement more then him. Thats not what I would call a strong driver. And even kobayashi has more points then him just counting Singapore and Japan. But this disscusion is not about Heidfeld anyway, back to Kubica vs. Rosberg please.

  • Profile picture of Deleted User said 2 years, 7 months ago:

    “while Heidfelds singapore crash was avoidable.”

    Yes, if Sutil had chose to put his brain in gear first rather than his car :P Using Nick as a measure is fine when discussing Kubica but not much with kamui when he’s had more time out racing than even Massa had after his injury.

  • Profile picture of Dizzy-A Dizzy-A said 2 years, 7 months ago:

    While Heidfelds singapore crash was avoidable.

    Avoidable from Sutil’s end, what with him crashing stupidly into Heidfeld.

  • Profile picture of Polishboy808 Polishboy808 said 2 years, 7 months ago:

    What I mean by avoidable is slowing more when the yellows are out, especially on a street circuit….

    And this still doesn’t change the fact that Heidfeld suck :p

  • Profile picture of Dizzy-A Dizzy-A said 2 years, 7 months ago:

    Nor does it change HEI 19, KUB 17 :P

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