Monaco's time is up?
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- 29th May 2011, 19:16 at 7:16 pm #129467EllParticipant
Well, a Monaco Grand Prix that ended up with DRS being banned in the tunnel, two drivers end up in hospital after big crashes and a red flag. Is the time right to get rid of Monaco for safety?
29th May 2011, 19:22 at 7:22 pm #169451AnonymousInactiveNah, Monaco is the place everyone looks foward to on the calender
29th May 2011, 19:47 at 7:47 pm #169452David-AParticipantNo.
29th May 2011, 20:08 at 8:08 pm #169453Ned FlandersParticipantIt’s a perfectly reasonable question. I don’t for a second think it will lose its place on the calendar, and I suppose I wouldn’t really want it to either, but it’s hard to deny that it’s completely unsuitable for modern F1.
I’m surprised it didn’t lose its place on the calendar following Imola 1994, when so many dangerous corners were neutered with chicanes. I wasn’t old enough to follow F1 back then, but can anyone who watched F1 back in the mid 90’s remember if there was any talk about Monaco being axed after Senna and Ratzenberger’s deaths?
29th May 2011, 20:18 at 8:18 pm #169454AnonymousInactiveIn the 1994 Monaco Grand Prix Karl Wendlinger crashed his Sauber at Nouvelle Chicane like Perez did, hitting his head on a water-filled barrier and ending in coma for weeks.
29th May 2011, 20:28 at 8:28 pm #169455f199playerParticipantMonaco is dangerous but thats what makes it a great tack there is no room for error and the driver just have to cope
29th May 2011, 21:16 at 9:16 pm #169456AndrewTannerParticipantUltimately a track is only as dangerous as the drivers racing it. If the drivers feel it is unsafe it’s up to them to do something about it. They have the power to do so.
Personally, I don’t think it should go, we should keep it.
29th May 2011, 21:23 at 9:23 pm #169457GeorgeParticipantWell Petrov’s accident wasn’t serious at all, that could happen at any street circuit (or any circuit with walls near the track). There are really two dangerous places at Monaco, the first corner and the exit of the tunnel, since they’re the only places the cars get near to maximum speed. Perhaps the bump on the exit of the tunnel should be looked at, certainly not worth scrapping the track for though.
29th May 2011, 21:38 at 9:38 pm #169458AnonymousInactiveNah, Monaco is the place everyone looks foward to on the calender
Not me. It was a lot better this year than it has been the past couple of years, but if there is one race in the year I don’t mind missing, it’s Monaco.
The only valid reason to keep going to Monaco, is because the drivers like the challenge. In every other aspect, it’s long outlasted its welcome. People whine about poor tracks designed by Tilke that don’t allow overtaking and conveniently forget that overtaking in Monaco is nigh on impossible. People complain about poor track safety and completely ignore that the margin for error is the lowest by far of any of the tracks in use. If the road surface condition was anything like at Monaco anywhere else, the drivers would complain until they saw blue in the face and yet in Monaco it’s “part of the challenge”. As Martin Brundle said in commentary today: “nowhere else do you actually have to mount the pavement to extract the best laptime”.
But I guess Bernie gets his money on time every time, so there won’t be any serious consideration to taking it off the calendar as long as he’s in charge.
29th May 2011, 23:35 at 11:35 pm #169459IcthyesParticipantI’m in the minority, but I don’t think Monaco is that great. Sure, it’s a challenge, but I have to keep telling myself that down the years after watching procession after procession. And then intermittently we get big, serious crashes. Until they sort that spear-barrier I’ll never be happy with going to Monaco again.
30th May 2011, 0:03 at 12:03 am #169460ZadakMemberThey will make Monaco work better for the future
I don’t remember watching that many boring races at Monaco, ok so it’s near impossible to pass, but that quality is now becoming pretty difficult to find on modern F1 tracks. And that has prooved to make some interesting situations this year, after we’ve got so used to drivers just slipping past each other on tyre difference.
If you want loads of overtaking then watch some NASCAR
Monaco has class that no other F1 race has.
Look at what happened to WRC when they lost Monte Carlo
30th May 2011, 0:48 at 12:48 am #169461ScribeParticipantThe elephant in the room is the racing at Monaco has been processional for years, the fastest cars usually end up at the front, the whole event is at it’s best during the build up, qualifying and the rush to the first corner. However this year the racing was fantastic at long last, for the first time in years rain didn’t need to save us from another year of denial.
Personally I think it should stay, but they need to sort out the exit from the tunnel soonish, possibly move the whole thing an actually make it an overtaking spot.
30th May 2011, 1:10 at 1:10 am #169462IcthyesParticipantWRC went downhill because the quality of competition seriously declined.
We have seen a better Monaco this year but the safety is poor for a modern F1 circuit. Interlagos saw many deaths before they moved that wall, are we going to have to have the same to change Monaco?
30th May 2011, 2:55 at 2:55 am #169463wasiF1ParticipantThey won’t get rid of it that easily but yeah they need to work a lot on safety.
30th May 2011, 8:24 at 8:24 am #169464australianParticipantIt was a good race
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