Silly Season 2013 (494 posts)

  • Profile picture of raymondu999 raymondu999 said 11 months ago:

    I personally think Hamilton is much more likely to go Williams rather than Mercedes. After all, Senna did.

  • Profile picture of duncanmonza duncanmonza said 11 months ago:

    Alguersuari also seems pretty confident that he’ll be on the grid next year.

  • Profile picture of Kingshark Kingshark said 11 months ago:

    I personally think Hamilton is much more likely to go Williams rather than Mercedes. After all, Senna did.

    I had a good laugh at that comment. :D

  • Profile picture of Felipe Bomeny Felipe Bomeny said 11 months ago:

    Given the unpredictability of this year, we’ll have to wait until the end of the year to truly judge each drivers’ performance. Some drivers, such as Button and Maldonado, have had really high and low points (both are locked in by contracts but they are great examples of varying performance) so no one knows if Hulkenberg or Massa will achieve impressive wins this year. And then there is Michael Schumacher, who’s been really unfortunate this year despite showing tremendous pace. A win or two could keep him motivated and on board for 2013. There are also the dramas between Raikkonen with Lotus and Hamilton with McLaren, which are most likely exaggerated by the press in order for a good read. All of these are factors that must be revisted at the end of the season. It’s still amusing to specualte the grid and read other readers’ predictions.

    Without a doubt, the biggest story will revolve around the identity of Alonso’s teammate. Massa is definitely out, given the Italian press’ scathing comments on him. Vettel, Webber, and Perez have all been linked with the seat, and all three have played it down. But, if one of the three is to succeed Massa, it poses questions. Who will take the second Red Bull seat if Vettel or Webber leave? Will it be the inexperienced Vergne, Ricciardo, or possibly even Raikkonen or Hamilton given the marketing potential of the last two? If Raikkonen takes the RBR seat (absurdity, many of you think to yourselves!), who will partner Grosjean? Kovalainen, Hulkenberg, Kobayashi? Or what about Lewis Hamilton? If Perez leaves to Ferrari, will Kobayashi stay and partner Kovalainen or Hulkenberg? Or will Esteban Gutierrez replace Kobayashi? All of these predictions may sound ridiculous, but wasn’t the Raikkonen comeback surprising?

  • Profile picture of Prisoner Monkeys Prisoner Monkeys said 11 months ago:

    Massa is definitely out, given the Italian press’ scathing comments on him.

    I wasn’t aware Ferrari’s driver line-up was decided by the Italian media.

  • Profile picture of Kingshark Kingshark said 11 months ago:

    I wasn’t aware Ferrari’s driver line-up was decided by the Italian media.

    The Italian F1 press generally has quite the influence on Ferrari. Ferrari take their criticism to heart, especially when they are underperforming. Yes, Ferrari are one of the few teams that actually listens to the critics (but only if they are from Italy, of course).
    Anyway, that’s not the main reason to why Massa will most likely be out of Ferrari at the end of this season. December 2011 Luca Di Montezemolo himself stated that Felipe will have to raise his game for 2012, or else. Has he really been any closer to Alonso this year? No, and he doesn’t have a contract for 2013 either, nor do Ferrari seem in a hurry to offer him one.
    But then again, Di Montezemolo also stated that Perez is too young and inexperienced for Ferrari. So who else can replace Massa? Given the most recent rumours, Webber seems like the most likely candidate for that seat.

  • Profile picture of Prisoner Monkeys Prisoner Monkeys said 11 months ago:

    This might sound insane, but if Hamilton were to leave McLaren, I think there is a reasonable chance he could wind up at Williams.

    When Williams were chasing after Kimi Raikkonen, they demonstrated that they were looking for a big-name driver. When Raikkonen went to Lotus, they had to settle for Senna. But I think Hamilton could be a good fit for them, because Maldonado and Senna are wasting the potential of the FW34, and Hamilton has that rare ability to drive a car beyond the limits other drivers find. If Williams can keep up the development of the FW34 into the FW35, then I think it would certainly be a car Hamilton would be capable of winning in.

    The big issue is money, of course. It is believed that Williams want to put Valterri Bottas into the car, and if they were to keep him, that means Pastor Maldonado would have to move over to make way for Hamilton. And with it, a $40 million revenue stream dries up (though there is talk that the contract between Williams and PDVSA only states that Williams have to “consider” Venezuelan drivers; they don’t actually have to sign one up if they don’t think that driver fits the team – that said, if Maldonado got a drive elsewhere, the money would probably go with him).

    But I think Williams could overcome that if they pitched it right. If they offered Hamilton the chance to build the team around him, and then announced to the world that they wanted Lewis Hamilton to be the man who restored the team to their former glory, then I don’t think they’d have much trouble securing sponsorship.

    The big deciding factor in all of this, though, would be whether or not Hamilton is willing to take a chance if he leaves McLaren. Despite the endless speculation, I just can’t see him at Red Bull, and outside McLaren, there is no real home for him – unless he thinks a team might be a diamond in the rough.

    @kingshark

    The Italian F1 press generally has quite the influence on Ferrari. Ferrari take their criticism to heart, especially when they are underperforming.

    I think Ferrari are savvy enough to know when they’re in trouble. If they need the press to tell them that they’re doing a bad job, then I’d say that they’ve got bigger problems than a bad season. So if they’re listening to what the press says, then they’re only being told what they already know. They’re not going to defer judgement on what is in the best interests of the team based on such a transient entity as the media.

  • Profile picture of Pamphlet Pamphlet said 11 months ago:

    Ferrari aren’t stupid enough to always listen to the Italian press. They said the exact same things about Massa after his two early retirements in 2008, and we all know what happened next.

  • Profile picture of sozavele sozavele said 11 months ago:

    I agree with @prisonermonkeys if Pastor (who has mixed results) can win in it, I think Hamilton could.

  • Profile picture of the_sigman the_sigman said 11 months ago:

    Here is what I think:

    Red Bull:
    a) Sebastian Vettel
    b) Heikki Kovalainen

    McLaren:
    a) Jenson Button
    b) Lewis Hamilton

    Ferrari:
    a) Fernando Alonso
    b) Mark Webber

    Mercedes:
    a) Nico Rosberg
    b) Paul di Resta

    Lotus:
    a) Kimi Raikkonen
    b) Romain Grosjean

    Force India:
    a) Adrian Sutil
    b) Vitaly Petrov

    Sauber:
    a) Sergio Perez
    b) Timo Glock

    Toro Rosso:
    a) Daniel Ricciardo
    b) Jean-Eric Vergne

    Williams:
    a) Pastor Maldonado
    b) Kamui Kobayashi

    Caterham:
    a) Giedo van der Garde
    b) Alexander Rossi

    HRT:
    a) Pedro de la Rosa
    b) Dani Clos

    Marussia:
    a) Charles Pic
    b) Robert Wickens

  • Profile picture of Slr Slr said 11 months ago:

    Here’s what I think at the moment:

    Red Bull
    Sebastian Vettel
    Kimi Raikkonen

    McLaren
    Lewis Hamilton
    Jenson Button

    Ferrari
    Fernando Alonso
    Sergio Perez

    Mercedes
    Michael Schumacher
    Nico Rosberg

    Lotus
    Romain Grosjean
    Heikki Kovalainen

    Force India
    Paul di Resta
    Nico Hulkenberg

    Sauber
    Kamui Kobayashi
    Esteban Gutierrez

    Toro Rosso
    Daniel Ricciardo
    Jean Eric Vergne

    Williams
    Pastor Maldonado
    Sebastien Buemi

    Caterham
    Vitaly Petrov
    Alexander Rossi

    HRT
    Pedro de la Rosa
    Dani Clos

    Marussia
    Timo Glock
    Rio Haryanto

  • Profile picture of Felipe Bomeny Felipe Bomeny said 11 months ago:

    Red Bull:
    Vettel/Webber

    McLaren:
    Hamilton/Button

    Ferrari:
    Alonso/Perez

    Lotus:
    Grosjean/Raikkonen

    Sauber:
    Gutierrez/Kovalainen

    Williams:
    Maldonado/Bottas

    Mercedes:
    Rosberg/Schumacher

    Force India:
    Hulkenberg/(Bird OR Bianchi)

    STR:
    Vergne/Ricciardo

    Caterham:
    Petrov/A. Rossi

    Marussia:
    Pic/Haryanto

    HRT:
    de la Rosa/Clos

    Obviously these are guesses, although I’m not sure where Glock fits in. He might be a Force India candidate if Hulkenberg goes to Sauber and di Resta goes to Mercedes (the latter scenario is more likely IMO). John Booth expressed interest in retaining Pic, and both Bird and Bianchi are in contention for F1 seats.

  • Profile picture of raymondu999 raymondu999 said 10 months, 2 weeks ago:

    Sutil is apparently in the frame to replace Messrs Kobayashi and Senna, and is also a possible fallback for Force India should Di Resta or Hulkenberg be nabbed by another team for 2013. He (and his manager) were both sighted at those three garages in the Valencia paddock. Or it could have been Canada. I don’t remember

  • Profile picture of Prisoner Monkeys Prisoner Monkeys said 10 months, 2 weeks ago:

    I think Sauber is probably the most-likely of the three, but only if both Kobayashi and Perez move on. If Perez leaves the team, Estaban Gutierrez will probably take his seat. I could see Sutil replacing Kobayashi if he leaves because the team is smart enough to know that you need continuity in the team when you replace a driver. If both drivers leave, that continuity isn’t possible, so the next-best alternative is to find an experienced driver. Sutil and Gutierrez sounds like a pretty reasonable combination to me. It’s just a question of where Kamui Kobayashi would go. It wouldn’t surprise me if he found a place at Williams; I think he’s one of the three drivers on the grid (the others being Alonso and Hamilton) that really embody the spirit of a Williams driver. You never know – if McLaren and hamilton go their separate ways, we could see Hamilton and Kobayashi at Williams, which would probably become a fan favourite.

  • Profile picture of Kingshark Kingshark said 10 months, 2 weeks ago:

    Red Bull:
    1. Sebastian Vettel
    2. Lewis Hamilton

    Mclaren:
    3. Jenson Button
    4. Paul di Resta

    Lotus:
    5. Kimi Raikkonen
    6. Romain Grosjean

    Ferrari:
    7. Fernando Alonso
    8. Sergio Perez

    Mercedes:
    9. Nico Rosberg
    10. Heikki Kovalainen

    Sauber:
    11. Kamui Kobayashi
    12. Esteban Gutierrez

    Williams:
    14. Pastor Maldonado
    15. Valtteri Bottas

    Force India:
    16. Nico Hulkenburg
    17. Sam Bird

    Toro Rosso:
    18. Daniel Ricciardo
    19. Jean-Eric Vergne

    Caterham:
    20. Vitaly Petrov
    21. Alexander Rossi

    Marussia:
    22. Charles Pic
    23. Rio Haryanto

    Hispania:
    24. Pedro de la Rosa
    25. Dani Clos

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