Silly Season 2013 (494 posts)

  • Profile picture of Prisoner Monkeys Prisoner Monkeys said 10 months, 2 weeks ago:

    I think it’s getting to the point where teams will not bother looking at GP2, and just start picking up talent in GP3.

  • Profile picture of Yahya Yahya said 10 months, 2 weeks ago:

    PM I kinda understand your view on Hamilton moving to Red Bull but i cant help but disagree. Why would a professional team like RBR demote one of their drivers simply because they are an “outsider”? Whether he is from the RB driver programme doesn’t matter. The reason why Alonso and Vettel are being favoured is because they are simply better drivers than there team mates so there best chance of winning would obviously be with them. If Hamilton started to beat Vettel and was in a situation whereby he was the best chance of winning, Red Bull would have no choice but to force Vettel to play second fiddle whether he likes it or not and vice versa.

    I think Horner would actually say something along the lines of: “Guys, which ever one of you is quickest will be number one.”

  • Profile picture of Prisoner Monkeys Prisoner Monkeys said 10 months, 2 weeks ago:

    Whether he is from the RB driver programme doesn’t matter.

    To us, maybe, but not to them. If someone were to join Red Bull and win the title straight away, it would undermine the entire point of their driver development programme.

  • Profile picture of Bradley Downton Bradley Downton said 10 months, 2 weeks ago:

    @prisoner-monkeys – If you think Bianchi has a chance of being in F1 next year, you have to put Bird and Firjns there as well.

  • Profile picture of Kingshark Kingshark said 10 months, 2 weeks ago:

    Bianchi certainly doesn’t deserve a seat in F1 for next year ahead of Valtteri Bottas, Robert Wickens, Sam Bird, Davide Valsecchi or Luiz Razia. I have seen him driving in both GP2 and F3.5R and I’m not impressed at all. He’s far too incident prone and in my opinion not ready for F1 yet.

    Robin Frijns is also very talented and doing very well in F3.5R, although he’s only 19 and could easily spend another year in a junior racing category.

  • Profile picture of Riley Smith Riley Smith said 10 months, 2 weeks ago:

    I think that if Hamilton does move, he’ll go to Red Bull. I’m not really sure if he would, though, because he’s been with McLaren since he was 13 or so. I’m not certain that Red Bull would let either of their drivers go at this point. I know that Vettel is staying, and Webber says that he will favor Red Bull when he makes his decision, so it’ll be on the team’s shoulders to decide if they would rather not have Webber, who is having a brilliant season, IMO.

  • Profile picture of Prisoner Monkeys Prisoner Monkeys said 10 months, 2 weeks ago:

    @kingshark – Valsecchi and Razia are too old for Formula 1. They might be doing really well in GP2 at the moment, but they’re in their fouth and fifth seasons in the category, and that’s never a good sign.

  • Profile picture of Kingshark Kingshark said 10 months, 2 weeks ago:

    @Prisoner Monkeys
    Razia is old? Are you serious? He’s 23, that’s the same age as Bottas and Wickens. Sure, this is his fourth season in GP2, but then again, when he debuted in GP2 he was only 20.

  • Profile picture of Prisoner Monkeys Prisoner Monkeys said 10 months, 2 weeks ago:

    He is old in GP2 years. It’s his fourth year of competition. For him to only just start to come good now is not a good sign.

  • Profile picture of duncanmonza duncanmonza said 10 months, 2 weeks ago:

    @kingshark
    How can you say Bianchi isn’t ready for F1 but Bottas is? They were born in the same month but Bianchi has done so much more racing as has had much more success. Bianchi got into F3 Euroseries a year earlier than Bottas and then won it in his second year, while Bottas had a best finish of third in his two seasons. Then Bianchi finished third in his debut year of GP2 and then did it again while Bottas has only driven in GP3 against subpar opponents. Now Bianchi is racing well in a super-competitive WSR season while Bottas is doing no racing at all and has never even raced GP2. Bottas is easily the most overrated young driver.
    Bianchi has also beaten Valsecchi, Razia and Bird every year he has raced against them.

  • Profile picture of raymondu999 raymondu999 said 10 months, 2 weeks ago:

    @prisoner-monkeys it’s never a good sign, sure, but Malders also won it only in his 4th year of GP2. He didn’t really come good in any of his first 3 seasons either.

    FWIW, I think Red Bull would be idiotic to let Mark go before the 2014 season. He knows too much. But if they (during 2013) shun him out of hearing of too many of the small tidbits they’re putting on the car, then he won’t be able to carry much away with him to another team…

  • Profile picture of Prisoner Monkeys Prisoner Monkeys said 10 months, 2 weeks ago:

    it’s never a good sign, sure, but Malders also won it only in his 4th year of GP2. He didn’t really come good in any of his first 3 seasons either

    The difference here is that there are other, more exicting and younger drivers in the ranks. When Maldonado won his title, there was a power vaccuum in GP2 – six drivers had been promoted to Formula 1 for the 2010 season, so there was always going to be a rush to grab the championship.

    On the other hand, this year’s GP2 season has Nasr, Gutierrez and Calado, who are all much more promising talents than Razia and Valsecchi.

  • Profile picture of raymondu999 raymondu999 said 10 months, 2 weeks ago:

    On that I agree – but don’t put things down solely to their “longevity” in GP2.

  • Profile picture of Kingshark Kingshark said 10 months, 2 weeks ago:

    I will earn a 50-million dollar sponsorship contract from Apple and replace the underperforming Alonso at Ferrari next year. :D

    @duncanmonza
    Bianchi was very crash-prone during his two GP2 seasons, and another year in F3.5R isn’t helping him either.

    Check out Bottas’s junior racing record:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valtteri_Bottas#Racing_record

    Very impressive, isn’t it? Unmatched.

    Also check out Wickens’s junior racing record:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Wickens#Racing_record

    He’s pretty much been success wherever he’s been. Whether he’s racing in GP3, F2, or F3.5R.

  • Profile picture of raymondu999 raymondu999 said 10 months, 2 weeks ago:

    I wouldn’t quite say unmatched, but very good records.

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