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Sutil to Ferrari?

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  • #129048
    Tom_ec1
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    This is the first I heard of it…

    From F1.com official season preview:

    “Adrian Sutil stays for another year, after plans to have him replace Felipe Massa at Ferrari fell apart in the aftermath of last year’s team orders argument.”

    http://www.formula1.com/news/features/2011/3/11828.html

    On the whole it’s an opinionated article (very unusual on f1.com). But I think the author is maybe a little too opinionated and a little too uninformed…

    #163654
    Todfod
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    I would have never guessed that Sutil was in talks with Ferrari. Its hard to say whether this is true or not, either ways, I actually think Sutil would do a good job at Ferrari. Whether he will do a better job than Massa, I guess we will have to wait till the end of the 2011 season to say ‘for sure’ :). But based on Sutil’s last year performance vs Massa’s performance.. I would say Sutil is more deserving of that Ferrari seat.

    #163655
    Dan Thorn
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    Don’t see why they’d want to have Sutil instead of Massa – they’re a similar type of driver, but Sutil is a slightly less good version.

    #163656
    George
    Participant

    I think he would probably fit in well at Ferrari, it would probably keep Alonso happy at least.

    #163657
    Todfod
    Participant

    I think Alonso seems pretty happy with Massa as a teammate as well.

    #163658
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Slightly less Dan???

    If Sutil had gone to Ferrari I think I’d stop supporting them just because I’d have thought they had lost their marbles. Ferrari can snap their fingers and have almost any driver just like Mclaren and RBR so why on earth should they just settle for Sutil? Sutil can be good but if there’s any driver in a midfield team that can perhaps be given a better drive then it’s Rosberg or Kubica.

    Ok Massa had a terrible year last year but I couldn’t see Sutil getting any closer to Fernando or replicating Felipe’s 06-09 form.

    I’m really surprised at the article. It’s F1.com so I believe it but I really don’t understand why Ferrari and Massa signed a new deal at Turkey that year if before Germany they were planning to replace him.

    #163659
    AndrewTanner
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    Sounds all a bit dodgy to me. Until either team responds to it (if they do) i’m going to take it with a pinch of salt.

    Can’t understand why they would want Sutil…last year they had Massa right where they wanted him.

    #163660
    Leftie
    Participant

    I don’t think Felipe was anywhere near Ferrari wanted him to be last year. They would have been at least second in the constructors championship. At least.

    #163661
    Dan Thorn
    Participant

    Sorry Steph, I was being far too generous to Sutil there!

    #163662

    A very peculiar article with some questionable claims. It’s un-bylined, so there’s little way of telling whether the person who wrote it knows what they’re talking about.

    #163663
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    That’s ok Dan I forgive you :P

    #163664
    damonsmedley
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    That’s the strangest thing I’ve ever read on Formula1.com… And why would the plan to have him replace Massa fall through after the team orders scandal? It makes it sound as if that was the deciding factor in Sutil’s movements.

    #163665
    ed24f1
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    I did see this rumour briefly on Twitter last year, possibly by Legard?

    I think it was probably more to do with putting pressure on Massa rather than anything else, like the Webber rumours (and Webber said as much publicly).

    Also, as I’ve said on the main site, I think Massa’s performances in 2010 were quite underrated, they weren’t as bad as many people perceive.

    #163666
    AndrewTanner
    Participant

    I guess it could be damon if Sutil thinks at some point he would have to be number 2 driver and potentially lose race wins.

    That’s of course providing any of this is true.

    #163667
    Prisoner Monkeys
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    On the whole it’s an opinionated article (very unusual on f1.com). But I think the author is maybe a little too opinionated and a little too uninformed…

    I saw this come up on another forum. A lot of people suspect it was written by Joe Saward for the way the article is critical of Renault for taking Heidfeld over Liuzzi:

    That said, the German is a safe pair of hands, but one can’t help wonder whether the team would have been better off with Vitantonio Liuzzi, whom Kubica recommended.

    It would not surprise me if this was true. Which is unfortunate, because I thought Saward learned his lesson when he ran that article highly critical of Force India for dropping Liuzzi and implying that other drivers would support him in order to protect their own contracts from being bought out (but they never did it to Raikkonen). Basically, he let his own opinions start to shape his facts. Which is a big no-no in journalism.

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