Top 10 drivers of the 1980’s (24 posts)

  • Profile picture of Cristian Cristian said 1 year, 5 months ago:

    Some of your presumptions are arguable. Senna’s Lotus was not that bad. I would compare the situation to this year’s, when Button did challenge Vettel in some races. That doesn’t mean he was better.
    The Schumacher – Patrese comparison is a different matter entirely, the cars were miles apart, he was a rookie and still he got almost as many points as him!

  • Profile picture of Kingshark Kingshark said 1 year, 5 months ago:

    I put him in as number 8 originally, he gradually got filtered out though. Bear in mind I was only born in ’89 so all I know is reputation and the odd grand prix I’ve seen. From those grand prix I’ve never been very impressed by Rosberg, which is why he doesn’t make the list.

    Eh, the only way to know how good a driver is, by watching him. ;)

  • Profile picture of sbl on tour sbl on tour said 1 year, 5 months ago:

    here goes,
    1 red 5 mansell
    2 sennapod
    3 prost
    4 jones
    5 watson
    6 arnoux
    7 lauda
    8 rosberg
    9 villenueve
    10 piquet (prefered him to prost at the time, but gone off him since then, the dork)

  • Profile picture of mrgrieves mrgrieves said 1 year, 5 months ago:

    1. Alain Prost
    3 world titles runner up 3 times easy winner

    2. Nelson Piquet
    Was a top contender from 1980 till he left Williams in 87 scoring plenty of poles wins and world titles

    3. Keke Rosberg
    Love watching videos of him from the early 80′s. Some of his drives against the turbo cars in 1982 were incredible. Nothing beats a Keke Charge

    4. Nigel Mansell
    A No hoper in a lotus but moved to williams at the right time and was another top driver from the end of 85 through to the 90′s

    5. Ayrton Senna
    Close with Mansell they had very similar achievements all be it Senna won the title when he had the best car

    6.Michele Alboreto
    Arrived with Ken Tyrells final victory came close in 1985 agains the all conquing Prost McLaren. Always near abouts

    7. G Villeneuve
    I Believe if he had lived his carear would have been similar to Rosberg when technology took over and his amazing raw driving skill wouldnt have shone through

    8. G Berger
    Some great drives in the early Bennetons then winning at Monza 88 would have got him on the list alone

    9. N Lauda
    Typical comeback, was never close to his true skills when he returned after a long break, still took a world championship against Prost

    10. A Jones
    Despite the title in 1980 another case of what if had he not sulked with Carlos and stuck around

    Special mention
    Sandro Nanini – Recall him having a few brilliant charges through the field in the Bennetion
    Pieluigi Martin – MR MINARDI. Was it Phoenix, 89 he was challanging for the lead?

  • Profile picture of Napoleon1815 Napoleon1815 said 1 year ago:

    @Cristian: Your version of history is obviously filled with biases. For the record, Senna won 2 races in a Lotus-Honda in 1987. In the same updated car, Piquet won nothing in 1988. Piquet was an overrated driver and only won 1981 by default (after Reutmann wimped out), and benefited from being the sole beneficiary of Pirellis specials (much in the same way Schumi dominated the 2000′s because of Bridgestone specials).

    Senna beat the crap out of Prost in the same equipment in 1988 & 1989 and outqualified him 32-4. He humiliated Prost so badly that Prost wimped out by quitting for Ferrari. The ony reason why Prost won the title in 1989 was because of Senna’s car unreliability (4 blown engines and 9 DNFs). So Manga4 is right.

    I would rank Senna, ahead of Prost, then Mansell, followed by Piquet. Go watch some 1980s races on Youtube before you jump to conclusions.

  • Profile picture of Cristian Cristian said 1 year ago:

    @Napoleon : If you think it better you will find out your version is the one filled with biases. I didn’t watch f1 in the 80′s, just a few races and youtube films, but, since you watched f1 since 1965, you should know by now that the best driver isn’t the one that goes fastest. Kimi was much more faster than Alonso in 2005 yet it was obvious who was the better driver. The better one is the one who gets results. Senna was prone to mistakes, more than other great drivers.
    Senna was faster and younger than Prost, he was getting preferential treatment just as Prost got when he was teammate with Lauda. It is logical he left, perhaps you and me would have done the same! At that point he wasn’t getting younger anyway.
    In the Lotus case : the ’87 Lotus was a much better car than the ’88 Lotus, just as the ’86 Lotus was better than the ’87. If you don’t believe it, look at Nakajima’s results. He was much better in his debut season than in ’88, when he had several DNQ’s and scored just a point. You say Piquet did nothing in the same updated car in ’88, but you don’t care about the progress others did, which was better than Lotus’s.
    A driver can have luck one time, but not 3 times!

  • Profile picture of matt90 matt90 said 1 year ago:

    @cristian
    “Kimi was much more faster than Alonso in 2005 yet it was obvious who was the better driver. The better one is the one who gets results.”

    http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/groups/f1/forum/topic/alternative-history-the-2005-championship-without-misfortune/

    ;)

  • Profile picture of Pamphlet Pamphlet said 1 year ago:

    @matt90 @cristian – There you go. That about sums up everything. Hell, I’m still waiting for the 2006 version of that thing.

    Funnily enough, I still consider @napoleon1815 ‘s post to be much more biased and ridiculous. Are you forgetting that Prost had more points than Senna in ’88 but lost out because of the points system? Also have to point out that Prost had a worse car in ’90 yet it took a murderous move from Senna to take him out of the title fight.

    And since when does qualifying matter more than the race? Take 2007 as an example. Massa had the most poles, tied with Hamilton. Raikkonen had only half of Lewis’. Guess who won that. Deservedly.

    As for my list:
    1. Alain Prost
    2. Nigel Mansell
    3. Nelson Piquet
    4. Niki Lauda
    5. Ayrton Senna
    6. Keke Rosberg
    7. Michele Alboreto
    8. Jacques Lafitte
    9. Elio de Angelis
    10. John Watson

    7-10 were tough. GV misses out both because I feel he was overrated and because we didn’t get to see much of him in that decade.

  • Profile picture of Cristian Cristian said 1 year ago:

    I may be among few others, but I don’t consider that a mechanical failure automatically means bad luck. Some drivers tend to have more than others, Kimi being one of them, at every team he was driving. The faster cars usually are less reliable, also. So, I don’t agree AT ALL with 2005 alternative history of the world championship without luck involved. It was not luck, it was the best team that won in that year (quite easily), the best team being Renault-Alonso. I am not a fan of Alonso, I would have loved if Kimi won that title, but that’s the way it is.

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