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@nik I know what you mean, I’ve been frustrated by the limitations of how you can query the data on that site, but still it does seem to have the most data of any F1 site. It’s still not as complete an F1 site for fans as this is (thanks Keith)!

updated statistics:

Vettel:
Age 23
Races 65
Championships 1 (2010 youngest world champion ever)
Wins 12
Podiums 22
Pole positions 18

Hamilton:
Age 26
Races 74
Championships 1 (2008)
Wins 15
Podiums 38
Pole positions 18

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i have updated the statistics, as they now differ from the first published statistics. vettel is now the youngest world champion ever has the same number of pole positions, but the better quote, because he needed less races for his 18 pole positions. hamilton was starting his career in the best car and had it for two years. (mclaren and ferrari were the best cars, being pretty equal in 2007 and 2008)

vettel had the best car in 2010. this year it will be pretty close between mclaren and red-bull.

vettel is the best qualifier at the moment, as he dominates webber for more than two years now and webber always was know as a (the) top qualifier.

considering the drving qualities in the rain i see vettel ahead of hamilton and also when it comes to saving the tyres vettel has the advantage. (vettel showed great performances in the rain in the toro rosso. he won in this car)

hamilton and vettel are equal in terms of race speed in dry conditions at the moment, but considering the age (as vettel is 23 years old and hamilton 26) vettel still has more potential, as with an age of only 23 years, he is farer away from his prime time than hamilton. with that said i am pretty sure that vettel will be the more complete and more successful driver.

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This year, Hamilton has split the Red Bulls in the first two qualifying sessions, in a slower car, a tenth or so slower than Vettel. To me that suggests if he had a faster car such as the RB7 he’d be just as quick, if not quicker than the index-fingered German. On top of that, Hamilton has become famous for his aggression, his late braking and his overtaking abilities so usually when he doesn’t qualify well (which right now isn’t very often(, he makes up for that in the race.

Vettel has a reputation for flying laps, but poor overtaking ability. We’re used to seeing him start at the front and stay there in the but when he gets mixed up in the midfield, can he really push past his title contenders? I think with experience he can, but with such a fast car being gifted to him will he get that experience? Hopefully the McLarens, Mercedes, Renaults and Ferraris can catch up with Red Bull in qualifying, not just to make the racing closer but to give the young German some experience of starting behind others.

I believe that he’s a very good driver, just an inexperienced one who needs to learn how to race from the back more often in a worse car than he’s been used to to really sharpen his race skills. It’s nearing my bedtime so my memory’s a bit fuzzy and I can’t be bothered to look it all up now but I can’t really remember the last time Vettel had to fight his way through the midfield to get on the podium but I do clearly remember him clashing with Webber and smacking into Button last year.

A GREAT driver can squeeze good results out of a mediocre car from the back or the middle of the grid, something which I reckon Hamilton showed us in 2009.

Er excuse me….vettel aged 23, Lewis aged 26, bit of an age gap don’t you think?

Whatever Lewis did Vettel did it sooner, so why does vettel get labeled “can only win in a dominant Red Bull” where as Lewis failed to win in a dominant McLaren in 07 and nearly does it again in 08. Typical British media making out Lewis has the short end of the stick. I repeat a ROOKIE, almost wins the world title in a McLaren but yet vettel gets labeled “it’s all the car”, that’s just a sad, poor excuse from some of you lot, double standards.

I think Abu Dhabi showed Lewis and Vettel at how equal they infact are. 3 hundreths of a second seperated them in quali and he still pulled away on race day.

But OOOOOOOOOOOOO I’m sure you will all say that Lewis’ car was atleast 2 seconds off the pace and it was just all skill that made it that close, pfffffffffff.

Cars seperate these 2 in speed not talent…

(sarcasm) Oh yes lets bring up Vettel’s overtaking skills, right…….

China 07/ 17th-4th

Monaco 08/ 19th-5th
Canada 08/ 19th-8th
Belgium 08/10th-5th

Belgium 09/8th-3rd
Brazil 09/15th-4th

Silverstone 10/24th-7th, after the first lap incident with Lewis.

(sarcasm) Terribly sorry if there are no videos of him going up the grid, but the F1 media seemed to be more interested in Alonso and Lewis at the time.

It’s also funny that Schumacher gets idolised for dragging up Ferrari from the pits of doom with the likes of Rory Byrne, Jean Todt and Ross Brawn helping him achieve all the records he has…

So why is Adrian Newey, Vettel and Christian Horner any different from dragging a “nothing” team into the world championship spotlight.

I just think certain F1 fans *cough* Macca fans *cough* are just jealous that they have a fight on their hands and have to keep comparing Lewis to vettel while the other side couldn’t care less.

People seem to be forgetting Vettel had the fastest car for half of the 2009 season, I would add that to his ‘possible titles in a winning car’ list, it was certainly better compared to Hamilton’s car last year.

Vettel seems to be fitting into the Schumacher zone very quickly to me, brilliant when he’s at the front and able to control the race, not so good at overtaking. If we still had refuelling I imagine we’d be seeing him putting him those crazy fast laps like Schumi used to do too.

Vettel seems to be fitting into the Schumacher zone very quickly to me, brilliant when he’s at the front and able to control the race, not so good at overtaking.

Schumacher is/was good at overtaking.