F1 Fanatic

With all the talk of the kerbs at Turn 10 this weekend, I got to wondering what could be done about the layout. Well, one thing lead to another and before I knew it I was modifying the track layout.

I’ve got a new layout for Singapore already done, but rather that immediately posting it, I’d like to see what F1 Fanatic’s best and brightest can come up with and get some discussion going.

Rules: Umm… none, really.
Guidelines: Ideally, the fiddly chicane at Turn 10 should be removed (as this is the point of the exercise), but do whatever you feel is right. If you have an idea that handles the issue another way, go for it.

Number 2 wouldn’t be allowed, the Sling is there to slow the cars approaching the bridge and they’d be entering it even faster under that configuration.

I think it just needs tidying up a bit, like so: http://twitpic.com/6l5ub4 It simplifies the track, takes the lap time down a bit and adds a possible overtaking spot or two whilst preserving the challenging bits of the circuit. I also envisage the Sling being slightly opened up, just enough so the curbs don’t have to be attacked but enough to force a slower entry into the corner. The four black lines are the DRS Zones by the way.

Number 2 wouldn’t be allowed, the Sling is there to slow the cars approaching the bridge and they’d be entering it even faster under that configuration.

No, the Sling is the chicane at turn 10. It’s there to stop cars from crashing headlong into the barrier on the outside of the circuit, because there is no runoff area to catch cars. The next two corners, turns 11 and 12, slow down cars for the Anderson Bridge.

I want to know the extent of the road you can see at 14 seconds on this video

It appears to be a road, not a driveway. It certainly would not be enough to catch cars because the straight down St. Andrew’s Road lets the cars get up to high speed.

And none of the suggestions so far have the cars entering the chicane any faster than they already do.

Icthyes’ design changes nothing about the Sling.

My first one has the cars going through the chicane in the opposite direction to what they currently do. My other three circumvent the Sling entirely.

Those are the only proposals so far. So I’m a little confused when you say “quite a few” designs have the cars entering the chicane too quickly.

I know exactly what the Sling is there fore. And everyone who has put forth an idea of what to do about it has either a) reconfigured the circuit to avoid the Sling in such a way that is safe, or b) reconfigured the circuit in such a way that the Sling remains intact in its current form. No-one has removed the Sling without explanation or an alternative route that addresses the issue of the Sling being there to prevent collisions. For example, this route – http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5106071 – extends the circuit so that the cars come into the junction of St. Andrew’s Road and Fullerton Road (the site of the Sling) from the west, rather than from the north. And there is ample room in the new corners for dedicated run-off.

So I have no idea what you’re complaining about. We’re all doing exactly what you’re telling us that we’re not doing.

I suspect Prisoner Monkeys may be after Hermann Tilke’s job the way he puts together so many layouts (not just for this thread, but I’ve seen it on the main site too). :D

Anyway, my idea is this:

http://twitpic.com/6s19d2 – existing layout in grey, concept in green

I hope you’ll forgive the unusual method of depiction; I’ve never been satisfied with my results on gmap-pedometer as I don’t think I’ve ever figured out how to work it quite right.

Concerns are:

- Run-off and tightness of corner at Turn 9
- Approach and Run-off at Turn 13, which would need to where one of PM’s ideas cuts across War Memorial land and a bus stop. I looked at this corner in Street View and the entry looks very narrow

I also removed the two bridge crossings in Sector 2 (Fullerton Rd and Esplanade Dr), but in hindsight this bit could possibly go back in as is. The removal of that area I think perhaps changes the character of the circuit too much, which is one of the things most tend to like about the track.

I also deleted four corners at the start of Sector 3, making a curved straight between the existing Turns 14 and 20. I’ve never particularly liked the section of Turns 16 through 19, as I’ve long found it too busy and bothersome.

And there was me thinking that Hermann was going to get the sack. Oh, well, back to the dreams.