Where were you when…? (32 posts)

Topic tags: 1994, Ayrton Senna, F1, Imola, Roland Ratzenberger
  • Profile picture of dragoll dragoll said 1 year, 6 months ago:

    Hrmm… This is a particularly difficult subject for me. I was 16 years old at the time and as one previous poster has commented, being in Australia, meant that the race was on quite late at night (10pm on Sunday night from memory) so being an F1 fan in the 80′s & 90′s in Australia required some real commitment, now Ch10 have the commercial rights, the coverage has been far better, but races are still latish.

    My father and my mother and I all watched the races religiously. Having a German background, our loyalty laid with the young up and coming superstar M. Schumacher, having watched him from the first race in Spa 91, we loved watching this kid shine. We all thought Senna was hard done by in the past and I have some vague recollections of drawing McLarens with Senna’s number on it when I was in primary school, so we didn’t have the same sort of rivalry with Senna than we did with the likes of Hill and Villeneuve.

    In any case, on this particular night we were all watching as we had heard about the incidents of the 94 Imola weekend to that point. First being Rubinho’s off in Friday Practise. For me, it was tough for me to see that accident, I still remember the sound of the sickening metal thud as rubens was launched into the tire barrier and the car landed upside down.

    Then obviously the terrible accident that beset Roland Ratzenberger in the Simtek. Being an Australian, I was keenly interested in this, because initially they weren’t sure what caused the accident and thought it may have been a failure on the car, and I was relieved when they decided not to race, as Aussie driver David Brabham was Ratzenbergers teammate at the time.

    We were already sad about all of this news, we didn’t get coverage of Qualifying or Practise sessions, we just got information from the internet and tv news services. The race however didn’t get any easier and at the start, the accident between Pedro Lamy and JJ Lehto was massive, the latter whom only came back to F1 racing after having a broken neck/back from a testing accident pre-season. JJ was never the same racer, to this day I don’t know if it was the pre-season test accident that took it out of JJ or if it was this incident, I suspect the latter, given the events in which were to unfold.

    My memory of the accident is extremely vivid. Sitting there watching Senna ahead from the on board shot of Schumi’s Benetton, then they were starting to take the flat out Tamburello corner, only to watch Senna go almost straight on into the wall. The director cut back to an outside shot as the accident unfolded, his car bouncing off the wall and skidding out, nearly re-entering the track. I then watched in disbelief as the rest of the field made their way through the debris.

    It is interesting to read other peoples accounts of the accident, because the one image that encapsulates this entire accident is the image of senna lying motionless in the car, albeit a couple of head twiches.

    As per previous posts, there was no reaction, it was an empty feeling. All 3 of us sat there staring blankly at the tv, we all knew this wasn’t going to end up ok. None of us spoke, until I asked my dad, do you think he will be alright?

    The rest of the race was a blur, there was another incident in pitlane where a wheel had come off and injured mechanics and in the end Schumi won the race. But all of this didn’t matter, all we wanted to know was, how was Ayrton?

    We didn’t get confirmation until we heard it in the news the next day. I remember my friend telling me at school, I was quiet and went numb.

    For each fatality I heard in motorsport after that, I always remember that weekend. Imola in 1994 will always be etched in my memory. The last month or so has been extremely difficult for me.

    I am very glad that I watched the Senna documentary a couple of months ago, I was so saddened by that documentary, he raced hard, he was ruthless on the track, and he will forever be missed by those who remembered him race.

    For those finding it hard to get through these tough times, I always think of what my father told me when I first saw Rubinho’s Friday Practise crash. “You have to understand that these drivers choose to race, and they do it because they love to race.”

    And after all these years, I believe it means that if you were going to die, wouldn’t you want to have lived life doing something that you truly loved? I believe that all race car drivers are pure at heart, because ultimately its not about the money, I’m sure they would all do it because of the love they have with what they do.

    Sorry about the length of this post, but I am trying to write down exactly how I felt about that entire weekend, as for me, it isn’t as clear cut as “where were you when it happened.”

  • Profile picture of KeeleyObsessed KeeleyObsessed said 1 year, 6 months ago:

    @dragoll Wow, I’ve just revisited this post after a while away and see everyone’s comments

    Yes, you were right with writing down the feelings aswell as the personal background, I think I’ve got the general gist from the other posters aswell (haven’t got time to tag you all)

    Keep ‘em coming in! I might put in another event for discussion later on!

  • Profile picture of smifaye smifaye said 1 year, 6 months ago:

    I remember the Sunday very vividly. I was 6 at the time and was watching the race with my Dad and my sister in the living room. I remember watching the first few laps and wanting the blue cars to win (Williams) and then the crash happened. I obviously didn’t understand what had happened and no one fully understood really at that time. I just remember my Dad getting really upset and he just got up, turned the TV off and left the room. The last thing I saw was Senna being airlifted to hospital. My sister and I knew something bad had happened as our Dad wouldn’t say anything.

    My Dad later came to tell us that he had died. Whenever I speak to my Dad about it he always says “I’ve never got upset about anything like that before but Senna just hit me”.

    It still puts a lump in my throat.

  • Profile picture of KeeleyObsessed KeeleyObsessed said 1 year, 6 months ago:

    Okay, how about a new scenario?

    At the risk of sounding a bit like a Hamilton-worshipper, what about Hamilton’s last-gasp, last-corner overtake to clinch the 2008 championship in Brazil?

    I remember that day quite well, as it was one of those days where my cat decided he liked me and would sit on my lap, watching the race, knowing that Massa was gonna win the race (these were the days he drove well) and that Hamilton only needed 5th. A certain Sebastian Vettel (a race-winner at that point) had found his way past Hamilton and Hamilton couldn’t get past him (a sign of things to come?) the rain coming down with about 3 laps to go was Hamilton’s only chance, and luckily it caused the toyotas some difficulty in the last lap, leaving Hamilton to take 5th off of Glock on the last corner, whilst Ferrari and Massa were celebrating a championship win!

    Anyone like to share? Again, if you were at the race, it’d be incredible to hear about the change of atmosphere at the pivotal moment, you never get that aspect of it on the TV…

  • Profile picture of Slr Slr said 1 year, 6 months ago:

    I was watching Hamilton win the title live, I couldn’t believe it, when Massa appeared to be champion, I was really happy for him. But when Brundle shouted “Is that Glock?”, I was thinking to myself surely not, and then we had that Hollywood ending though this time it was real. When hearing Massa on his radio, I was gutted for him, but he acted like pro and congratulated Hamilton. I kind of wanted Massa to be champion, because I believed that Hamilton would win more titles, whilst Massa may not win another title again. Oh and I was also very happy to see Alonso finish second.

    As for Senna, I was three weeks old when he died, so unfortunately I can’t share anything with you.

  • Profile picture of Icthyes Icthyes said 1 year, 6 months ago:

    Well I wasn’t there, but I was watching it on TV. I was quietly confident throughout the race, but when Kubica unlapped himself and Vettel got by, my heart sank. I’d been through this the year before and now it was going to happen again. Massa crossed the line to win and I thought it was all over then. Everyone was so transfixed on the battle, I didn’t even notice Glock when he first appeared (neither did Crofty…) but then James Allen started shouting and my heart leapt. I didn’t believe anything at first, watching the results order come in one by one, RAI, VET, then…HAM, yes! Unbelievable stuff.

    Of course, the race edit of the Ferrari mechanic smashing the glass just made it even better.

  • Profile picture of Alianora La Canta Alianora La Canta said 1 year, 6 months ago:

    I was sitting in the living room, notes strewn across the table. I had 1/3 of a mug of orange juice to one side of me and a book on the other side (I’ve forgotten the title, but the then-most recent copy of F1 Racing was upside-down underneath it; I’d finished it during qualifying). Mum and Dad were also watching; Dad was on the sofa while Mum was hovering around the back of the room (she was cooking tea at the same time). We were all cheering on Lewis, but personally I was thinking the race was already a good one because Fisico had managed to hold off a McLaren for nine laps (the fact that it was Lewis’ was kind of beside the point).

    I’d had a bad feeling about Lewis being 5th in the closing stages, but felt much more confident once it started raining heavier. Once Sebastian passed Lewis I thought Felipe surely had the title in the bag. Until I checked my notes, saw the Toyotas hadn’t pitted… …and heard James Allen’s dulcet tones suddenly mentioning Timo…

    It was hard seeing Felipe afterwards; he handled losing the title so cruelly in a very dignified manner, but I couldn’t help feeling that it was poor stewarding that had given him the title chance. So I didn’t feel cheated. And there wasn’t much time to think about the race after that because Mum timed tea (a very nice pork-and-two-vegetables dinner) for the gap between Lewis crossing the line and reaching parc fermé.

  • Profile picture of TrueF1Grit TrueF1Grit said 1 year, 6 months ago:

    It was my first season of watching F1, it was the first race that all of my family had watched together, specifically because Lewis was in contention. It was quite late if I remember, about 6pm UK time when the race started? I can remember as it showed the final corner of the final lap my dad just sighed in disbelief that Hamilton had gone and blown it at the final hurdle. I’m not one to shout at the TV and have only ever done it twice, one in this instance and once at the 2010 Turkish Grand Prix. Jumping out of my seat, the cameras moving rapidly from Massa, to Hamilton, to this, to that, so much was going on despite the winner crossing the line. The utter joy (I supported Hamilton, obviously being a new to F1 viewer you tend to support your countrymen, and it wasn’t like Jenson was up to much back then) when Hamilton passed Glock, I’ve never felt as if the commentators were watching the race with my until then. A truly amazing moment, a whole season down to the final corner.

  • Profile picture of Journeyer Journeyer said 1 year, 6 months ago:

    I couldn’t answer Imola 1994 – I didn’t start watching F1 until 1996. But I have seen the race in its entirety – and it is tough to watch knowing what’s going to happen. I count myself fortunate that I haven’t seen a racing driver fatality unfold on live TV (I missed the Wheldon and Simoncelli crashes for various reasons).

    Brazil 2008 was a rollercoaster of emotions. I was rooting for Massa to win it all – and I was pumped up even if it was 3 AM where I was. I had given up on Massa winning until Vettel passed Hamilton with just a few laps to go – at that point, I went nuts and woke up the people at home. My sister (who I also woke up) joined me for the end – and we went crazy as Massa won. Then when that graphic of “5 HAM” came up (despite Lewis being P6 for most of that last lap), we were first stunned, then gutted. After all that, we were both just exhausted with what we went through. Despite our disappointment, we were sure that it was probably going to be the most exciting title finish we’d ever see in our lifetimes.

    Sidenote: When Vettel passed Hamilton, I thought, “Ferrari will owe Vettel bigtime if Massa wins the title.” Massa didn’t, but I think that moment pretty much ensured Vettel will drive for Ferrari sometime before he retires.

  • Profile picture of S.J.M S.J.M said 1 year, 6 months ago:

    Me and my brother had the house to ourselves for Brazil ’08, pretty much gulped down the pizza’s we had ordered over the early part of the race and sat watching the drama unfold. The nervousness as Hamilton held the positions needed for the WDC for what seemed an eternity, only for it to crumble when he slipped back and lost the much needed 5th. Honestly we just froze in horror, the ghost of ’07 came back and hit us with the reality hammer and it stung! But this is F1 and anything can happen, and it usually does. With the rain falling, and ITV annoying us with ill-needed ad-breaks and with the 2 of us were rapidly running out of finger nails as the final laps unfolded before us. Seeing Massa cross the line to win the race I felt numb and gutted, and as much as I liked the Brazilian back then it was only about Lewis that night. But as quickly as Massa screamed pass the chequred flag, disbelief turned to Euthoria in seeing the sight of Lewis’s Mclaren pass Glock on the final corner, of the final lap, of the last race! It required a triple take before realising that he’d finished in the top5 and won the title. We. Went. Berserk. We knew that evening that we’d witnessed one of ‘THE’ finishes to F1 in its history. And I will always remember it.

    Imola ’94 is a different matter, and less clear are my memories. I remember the day, I was 10years old a nice day and was at our grandparents holiday static-caravan nr Margate (Kent) watching the race on TV. Its odd, seeing the accident at the time, id never have thought that I’d be remembering it all these years later, we’d seen plenty of them in the previous couple of years when I started to watch F1. But this was different for all the wrong reasons, and I’ll be honest, I don’t think I realised the seriousness of the situation at the time, and it wasn’t until the evening when we learned Senna had died. What I remember between the race ending and Senna’s death being announced is lost to me, I have no memory of it. I’m also ashamed to say that it over-shadowed the death of Ratzenberger to me, and it wasn’t until later years that what happened on that fateful weekend has really been understood, and that 2 people died that weekend. Watching the Las Vegas Indy race (or even the 2hrs after the accident) brought it all back, that coldness of learning someone died, its a horrid feeling, and I hope its a long, long time before I feel it again.

  • Profile picture of magon4 magon4 said 1 year, 6 months ago:

    Back to 1994. My situation was interesting, being a Brazilian who grew up in Germany but was back in Brazil at the time. I was rooting for Schumacher and actually disliked Senna (though he was arrogant) at the time, and as always I watched the race live. My first reaction, to be honest, was to celebrate – it seemed 30×0 for Schumacher at the time, and it would be a tough, but historical duel between the veteran Brazilian and the young German. But then Senna didn’t get out of the car. It was the type of accident where you normally just get out of the car, but he didn’t.
    It took while for me to even consider the possibility of Senna being dead. But towards the end of the race, I was sure he hadn’t made it, and was completely shocked.
    The night before the race, I had been to the mall with my dad and brothers, and someone in the parking lot told us that Senna had died. We called him a fool but went to check the news, finding out that Ratzenberger had died in Qualifying. The man had got it wrong – but then again, right.
    Brazil was in state of shock for the next 3 days, nothing happened, the country simply came to a stop. I happened to be in São Paulo airport the day Senna’s coffin arrived. It was very moving, and a very unifying experience for the Brazilian people. Very freak accident and tragic, for the sport and for all the obvious reasons.
    I was 16 at the time, and had seen Senna race for 5 years. He surely was one of the best of all time.

  • Profile picture of magon4 magon4 said 1 year, 6 months ago:

    I had been to quite a few races in Interlagos, but 2008 I watched on the TV. At that time, I already was an avid Vettel fan and proud of his performance. I was very well aware of Glock not going in the box and trying to monitor that situation, but it did seem as if Massa had made it in the most spectacular way possible. Everyone will agree that, judging by this race alone, Lewis Hamilton did not deserve to be called World Champion, so afraid and defensive in his tactics, almost costing him the all in all well deserved title. But that race alone had given Massa some merit, himself. No one deserved to lose, it seems almost typical that Massa did – now achieving the same loser image that Rubens Barrichello always had in Brazil. It’s tough to race in F1 after Fittipaldi, Piquet and mostly Senna…

  • Profile picture of KeeleyObsessed KeeleyObsessed said 1 year, 5 months ago:

    I’m not too sure of what to put for the next scenario. I have a few ideas, one of them being Schumi’s last days at Ferrari, Massa’s Hungary crash or the 2010 decider.

    As I feel the latter two are too recent, I’ll go for Monza-Brazil 2006, Schumi’s final season of his first career and Alonso’s successful title defence.. I’ll put my experience in just as soon as I remember it!

  • Profile picture of Slr Slr said 1 year, 5 months ago:

    My biggest memory between Italy-Brazil 2006 was Schumacher retiring from the Japanese Grand Prix. It felt so unreal to see him retire from the race. To hear Schumacher was retiring wasn’t so surprising to me, but he definitely went out as the Schumacher everyone knew. His performance Brazil was simply amazing.

  • Profile picture of Deleted User said 1 year, 5 months ago:

    In 94 I was 21, sitting at home watching the race at Imola. I was excited by the fact that Senna had finally got into the all dominating Williams and that it would be an easy romp to the WDC. I couldn’t believe my eyes when Senna crashed. I was begging him to move himself out of the car, or at least make a gesture. The moment the emergency crew got to the car I feared for the worst. I couldn’t watch anymore. As I showered before getting to bed I couldn’t control the tears and the grief that we’d had lost a great man. From that day onwards I couldn’t watch F1 until it came to Melbourne in 96, where I was given tickets to the grandstand on the start finish line.

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