Re: winning from pole
What exactly is the relevance of pole? If you’re fast enough to win the race, you’re not going to not win it because you started 2nd or 3rd or 4th. Look at how often people jump 2 or 3 drivers at the start.
Pole is a nice statistic, and qualifying is a skill in itself, but in a discussion about skill to race, it is completely irrelevant. Because if you think that is relevant, then you must too believe David Coulthard to have a certain kind of greatness, because he only won 1/13 races from pole position. Is that true, or is ‘winning from pole’ instead of ‘winning from the front’ really just an arbitrary statistic?
Re: being equal to A/H/R
But what exact non-double standard, objective basis do you have for not believing he could? Like I said, and will again show in my next response, all the arguments always used against Vettel are double standard. Trust me, I would love nothing more then to finally hear a fair and valid argument, but if they’re there, they are always lost in a whole stream of double standard arguments.
Re: JB being uncomfortable with Vettel
2010, Ferrari got played! They totally suckered them with their choice of who they wanted to win… Ferrari just covered the wrong bull…
A fair, non-double standard argument would actually cover 2010, not just the last race. There is for instance no mention whatsoever of the net 63 points Vettel lost through no fault of his own. I mean, if we’re only focussing on the last race(s), what should we think of Fernando Alonso?
If this were a fair and non-double standard argument, we would not be singing praise of Alonso, but mention how ‘Schumacher got played and we should feel uncomfortable about Alonso’s second title’. There is nothing fair and objective about singling out the final, or any one race, to discredit a driver.
2012… Although a harder fought season… I still cannot and probably will never be able to think of him as a great… since we saw at the begining of the season that he was incapable to deliver when the car was not as it´s best…. unlike a certain other driver… SV was only able to deliver when he had the best car on the grid again (after the Valencia upgrades)! So that is what prevents me from thinking he is a great driver or champiuon for that matter… Basically, if the car doesn´t suit him… he can´t deliver…
Again a double standard at work here.
Why is it considered ‘not delivering’ for Vettel to finishes 2nd to 6th, but when Alonso finishes 5th to 9th, it is considered delivering? This reverts back to the earlier example given of the double standard in judging a car’s pace.
The objective, non-double standard fact is, Vettel had the best race pace of Red Bull in 17 out of 20 races, no less than Alonso who had the best race pace of Ferrari in 17 out of 20 races. The only way you can say Vettel didn’t deliver where Alonso did, is if you judge the car’s pace by a different standard. If you judge a Red Bull by the fastest driver, and a Ferrari by the slowest driver.