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Williams Bahrain Livery

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  • #254954
    Jake
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    Any news on wether Williams will have to change their livery in Bahrain this weekend? We’ve seen Force India have to remove a lot of their sponsors due to the laws against alcohol advertisement in previous years.

    #254971
    hunocsi
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    Adam Cooper wrote on Twitter yesterday that Williams will have to remove the branding.

    #254973
    GeeMac
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    Funny, Force India (Kingfisher, Royal Challenge), McLaren (Johnnie Walker on the visors) and Red Bull (Singha on the nose above the race number) didn’t remobve their alcohol logos at the Bahrain test this year.

    Nico Hulkenberg, Force India, Bahrain, 2014

    Kevin Magnussen, McLaren, Bahrain, 2014

    Daniel Ricciardo, Red Bull, Bahrain, 2014

    Red Bull also had their Singha logo on the car at Abu Dhabi last year:

    Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, Yas Marina, 2013

    Force India ran with their alcohol sponsors at Bahrain last year and, guess what, the Singha logo was on the Red Bull too. McLaren removed the Johnnie Walker logos from their visors:

    https://www.racefans.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/forc-dire-bahr-2013-2.jpg

    https://www.racefans.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/redb-vett-bahr-2013-1.jpg

    Now I have no issue with the removal of alcohol sponsors in Islamic countries, but it has to be consistent in the way it was in the tobacco advertising days. As a resident of the Gulf I know for a fact that you can drink legally (albeit only in certain places) in both Bahrain and Abu Dhabi. I also know that in “dry” states like Saudi and Kuwait it is incredibly easy to get hold of alcohol. I make weekly trips to Kuwait from the UAE and it always amuses me that people in full national dress order alcohol every time I’m on that flight. Each to their own I guess.

    Given the recent spate of deaths in the Gulf caused by energy drinks it should be Red Bull revising their livery.

    http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/kuwait/kuwaiti-player-dies-after-taking-energy-drinks-1.1184369

    http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/NewsDetails.aspx?storyid=372010

    #254976
    GeeMac
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    Ferrari also ran their Martini logo on the nose of their car in Bahrain in 2006.

    https://www.racefans.net/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/michaelschumacher_ferrari_bahrain_2006_10241.jpg

    #254978
    andae23
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    Yeah, last year Force India removed ‘Whyte and Mackay’ and replaced it with the names of two people who had won a competition. But it does seem rather inconsistent.

    I believe I read somewhere yesterday that the word ‘Martini’ will be replaced by ‘Williams Martini’, but no official news yet.

    EDIT: this is what Adam Cooper wrote about it yesterday:

    #254979
    GeeMac
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    #254982
    Bullfrog
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    I thought they were sponsored by Martini clothing on these occasions. That’s how Vijay Mallya’s brands get around it. Don’t remember ever seeing the sportscars, Porsches or rally Lancias without Martini on them.

    I still think they should do a deal with London Transport – or ‘Valtteri’ would look quite good on the logo.

    #255053
    Calum
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    @bullfrog

    Obviously the Martini logo is the roughly the same shape as the London transport roundel but interestingly enough Williams Hybrid Engineering (F1 team subsidiary) did a deal with Transport for London in 2012 to stick flywheel energy recovery systems in some buses, utilising technology directly derived from the unraced 2009 Williams KERS system so there is history between the two!

    #255054
    Mr. T
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    Funny coincidence but they just announced the sale of Williams Hybrid Power yesterday

    #255070
    Bullfrog
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    Just ‘Williams Martini’, and not ‘Racing’? That’s fitting for a team that doesn’t want its drivers to race.

    #255140
    andae23
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    ‘Racing’ it is:

    #255141
    andae23
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    EDIT [double post]

    #255143
    GeeMac
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    This will have been incredibly worthless if the Singha and Johnnie Walker logos remain on the Red Bull and McLaren, the tequila logos remain on the Sauber and all of Kingfisher and Royal Challenge logos aren’t removed from the Force India.

    #255146
    Bullfrog
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    When the DRS flap is open, it’s not Racing any more…

    #255223
    JackySteeg
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    @bullfrog Perfect.

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