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Your absolute top 5 across all eras.

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  • #297257
    PorscheF1
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    If there is a topic like this already going please just link it.

    I was having a chat with @fastiesty and he made me wonder which drivers F1Fanatic readers hold high. What is your ultimate top 5/10 of drivers across all times for whatever reason.

    This is mine
    1) Clark
    2) Prost
    3) Moss
    4) Senna
    5) Schumacher

    My top 10 would include; Fangio, Ascari, Alonso, Gilles Villeneuve and Graham Hill.
    My top 15 would include; Ickx, Montoya, Lauda, Stewart and Hamilton or Vettel (to soon to call)

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    #297259
    safeeuropeanhome
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    Ok I’ll play.

    Moss ahead of Fangio? I would be interested to hear the reasoning behind that. Just based on their F1 accomplishments or what they did outside F1 too? I could understand Moss being so high if you take into account stuff outside F1. But then where is Mario Andretti if that is the case. Anyway based solely on what they have accomplished in F1, my top 10 would look something like:

    1. Clark
    2. Senna
    3. Prost
    4. Schumacher
    5. Fangio

    6. Stewart
    7. Alonso
    8. Lauda
    9. Moss
    10. Hamilton

    The top 5 is a lot easier to pick for me than those outside it. I’ve thought about this before and that top 5 hasn’t changed for a long time.

    I find it hard to rank Vettel at the moment, I’m not sure where exactly where to put him.

    #297260
    Tom_ec1
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    1. Senna
    2. Stewart
    3. Hamilton
    4. Prost
    5. Alonso

    #297273
    Iestyn Davies
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    @xtwl Hard for me to settle on an order for the top 5, but the 5 are always Fangio, Clark, Prost, Senna, Schumacher.

    After that: Ascari, Moss, Stewart, Lauda, Alonso;
    Surtees, G.Villeneuve, Piquet, Hamilton, Vettel;
    Rindt, Andretti, Peterson, Hakkinen, Raikkonen;
    Brabham, Reutemann, Mansell, Berger, Montoya.

    A lot of people would probably swap Surtees and Brabham, who I would also be tempted to replace with Ickx, Cevert or Button. Others would also probably recommend G.Hill and Fittipaldi instead.

    #297274
    andae23
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    Not going to order them, but my top 5 would probably include Clark, Fangio, Nuvolari, Prost and Senna.

    #297276
    PorscheF1
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    @andae23 Nuvolari never raced in F1. He surely is among the greatest drivers ever though.

    #297280
    Asanator
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    Schumacher, Clark, Prost, Senna, Lauda

    #297283
    Aled Davies
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    1) Schumacher
    2) Senna
    3) Fangio
    4) Alonso
    5) Prost
    6) Stewart
    7) Clark
    8) Hamilton
    9) Vettel
    10) Lauda

    #297288
    PorscheF1
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    Schumacher, Senna and Prost seem to be constants in top 5s.

    #297297
    Strontium
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    1. M. Schumacher
    2. A. Senna
    3. Alonso
    4. G. Villeneuve
    5. Fangio

    To be completely honest my knowledge of F1 drivers from decades ago isn’t great, so this isn’t a concrete opinion from me.

    #297298
    Ciaran
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    1. Michael Schumacher
    2. Ayrton Senna
    3. Alain Prost
    4. Juan Manuel Fangio
    5. Jim Clark

    #297299
    Anonymous
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    1. A. Prost
    2. J. Fangio
    3. N. Lauda
    4. A. Senna
    5. M. Schumacher

    6. J. Fangio
    7. J. Clark
    8. G. Villeneuve
    9. S. Vettel
    10. J. Stewart

    #297301
    Iestyn Davies
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    My post will show up soon, but to address “all eras”.. here’s a rough win list for the Pre-F1 GP era:

    Caracciola – 23
    Nuvolari – 22
    Varzi – 21
    Chiron – 19
    Fagioli – 11
    Rosemeyer – 10
    Lang – 8
    Nazzaro – 5
    Benoist – 5
    Divo – 5

    There’s some win inflation in that list as obviously there were not many GPs in the early days.. Benoist was the first ‘superstar’ driver of the mid-20s, followed by Varzi vs Chiron, and Nuvolari vs Caracciola in the 30s.

    Post-war but pre/NC-F1 there is also:

    Fangio 24
    Villoresi 23
    Moss 21
    Clark 19
    Ascari 17
    Farina 17
    Brabham 16
    Behra 12
    Rosier 11

    Wimille was the top driver of the 1940s but ‘only’ has 9 wins.. Villoresi was similarly hit by the war also occurring during their respective ‘peak periods’.

    So, a respective ‘top ten all-time GP win list’ looks like:

    Schumacher – 91
    Prost – 51
    Fangio – 48
    Clark – 44
    Senna – 41
    Vettel – 40
    Moss – 37
    Hamilton – 36
    Stewart – 32
    Alonso – 32

    If we ‘transfer’ 20 of Schumi’s wins to Senna (or get them off D.Hill instead), you can see why Schumacher, Senna, Prost are constantly in the top 5, while those who know the pre-Bernie era will also include Fangio, Clark, Moss and Stewart. Vettel, Hamilton and Alonso are now making waves to be included on all-time top driver lists once they retire.

    #297312
    Daniel
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    In no particular order: Clark, Fangio, Schumacher, Prost, Senna

    #297328
    Roald
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    Schumacher, Prost, Senna, Clark, Rindt

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