Your favourite Tilkedrome?
24th October 2010, 14:41 at 2:41 pm #128269
The much maligned Hermann Tilke is responsible for many circuits on the 2010 F1 calendar and, whether it is deserved or not, he takes a lot of stick for delivering repetitive, sanitised circuits.
But after having raced a few seasons on “F1 2010” (and having read Ned Flanders’ article) I have actually been converted to a fan of a few his tracks and have been grateful for his “dull tarmac run off areas” which have saved me after potentially race ending driver errors and high speed punctures on a number of occasions. So I’ve prepared a list of my new top 5 Tilkedromes, and I was really surpirsed when I read it back to myself.
1. Istanbul – It’s the Daddy of the new tracks in my book, a challenging mix of corners with good overtaking opportunities and the epic Turn 8.
2. Sepang – One of his first, and still one of his best. Turns 5-6-7-8 always make me smile when I nail them.
3. Yeongam- No I’m not feeling giddy after a good race this morning, the layout is genuinely good fun to drive, and requires real concentration and skill to go round quickly. It was an instant favourite of mine.
4. Valencia – This is the circuit that gave me the idea for this thread. I thought I was going to hate this track. The races it produces are aweful and the circuit has all the character of Liver and Onions, but I genuinely enjoyed “driving” it. The races were processional even on F1 2010, but I still had a real giggle going round it, particularly the final sector. If it wasn’t for Yeongam, it would have been number 3.
5. Shanghai – The back straight bored me to tears, but at least I had a chance to out brake other cars when I eventually hit the brakes.
Over to you…24th October 2010, 14:59 at 2:59 pm #148871
1 – Istanbul
2 – Shanghai
3 – Yeongam
4 – Abu Dhabi
5 – Barcelona24th October 2010, 15:47 at 3:47 pm #148872
I love Istanbul and Yeongam. China and Shanghai produce good races normally, but not necessarily because of the track- more because we often get rain. Valencia is decent, if controversial- I think it deserves a place on the F1 calendar for the foreseeable future.24th October 2010, 19:20 at 7:20 pm #148873
Aragon (you never said it had to be F1!)
Istanbul (only because of Turn 8, Sector 1 is so dull)
Yas Marina24th October 2010, 19:33 at 7:33 pm #148874
I had exactly the same idea for a topic when I raced Valencia on F1 2010. My reasoning was the same – I was expecting to hate the circuit but actually I really enjoy racing there. The circuit has a really nice flow and a great final section (even if it is flat out). It does surprise me that we don’t see more overtaking there.
Not a fan of Singapore or Yeongam (really can’t put a good lap together there, its such an odd track albeit challenging) but on the whole i actually quite like tilke’s tracks. Istanbul is great, as is Valencia, Shanghai and Malaysia. I suppose my criticism of Malaysia and Shanghai is that they are fairly similar, but still they are actually good fun to race at. Not sure about Abu Dhabi yet, haven’t made up my mind.24th October 2010, 21:15 at 9:15 pm #148875
As of now, Yeongam.24th October 2010, 22:20 at 10:20 pm #148876
It’s kind of a tie between Yeongam, Sepang and Istanbul for me. Which one is in front depends largely on my mood.24th October 2010, 22:54 at 10:54 pm #148877
Sepang is by far my favourite, combining the holy tinity of challenging highspeed corners, overtaking possibilities (though a little contrived), an variable, unpredictable weather.
Istanbul Park is a fun track, with a lot more to it than turn 8, the run up from the start finish straight to turn 8 would be a damn fine stretch of tarmac on any track. Turn 8 is also rather special.
Yeongam was very nice, final corner ruins the pit straight for an overtaking oppurtunity but I guess thats made up for, I’d like to see a proper dry race from the place, to see if it really is as action packed a lap as it’s made out to be.
Shanghai, eh, excellent races recently but I don’t feel the track gets the plaudits, it’s like when Minardi got points, really great but external factors played the bigger role.25th October 2010, 0:58 at 12:58 am #148878
After Turkey I have to day Korea but would have love to see a dry race there.25th October 2010, 7:48 at 7:48 am #148879
I think people are really over-rating Yeongam because we had a good race there. The truth is that after Turn 4 the layout is awful, far too many for-the-sake-of-it turns that add nothing but laptime. Even today we saw Sectors 2 and 3 result in cars unable to get past each other unless a driver made a mistake going out of a corner (no doubt due to the conditions). In a dry race it would have been as dull as Valencia after Lap 2.25th October 2010, 8:06 at 8:06 am #148880
1. Bahrain pre stupid extension. Great for overtaking and some nice tricky corners in the middle sector.
2. Sepang. It looks like a traditional race track, plenty of greenery and some brilliant corners.
3. Yeongham. Not just saying this because of yesterday’s race, but I do like the fast stuff in the second and third sectors with lots of direction changes. It was great watching Vettel push the boundries of the track in qualifying.
I can’t place the others because I dont like them. Istanbul is over rated, Valencia although fun to drive prodicus duff racing, Singapore looks nice but that’s all it has, ditto Abu Dhabi; and Shanghai is woefully simple.25th October 2010, 9:10 at 9:10 am #148881
I think people are really over-rating Yeongam because we had a good race there.
I think people rate it because the drivers do.25th October 2010, 10:47 at 10:47 am #148882
Good to hear a focus on the positives, because we hear plenty about what’s wrong with Tilkedromes! And yes, Valencia is one of my favourite tracks on F1 2010 too!
I was going to write my top 5, but I can’t be bothered and I have work to do, so how’s about I just post the link to the article I did!25th October 2010, 11:30 at 11:30 am #148883
I think people rate it because the drivers do.
That worked well for Magny-Cours’ reputation, didn’t it.25th October 2010, 12:17 at 12:17 pm #148884
I like Shanghai. Really unique and fun to watch.
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