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  • #263191
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    Dylan Mota
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    While watching the World Cup today, (And seeing my Portugal get beaten badly), I started to wonder what the F1 grid would look like if the teams were determined by nationality. I came up with a few of them while watching the snooze fest that was Iran v Nigeria:

    Germany- Sebastian Vettel & Nico Rosberg
    Finland- Kimi Raikkonen & Valteri Bottas
    England- Lewis Hamilton & Jensen Button
    Australia- Daniel Ricciardo & Mark Webber
    Spain- Fernando Alonso & Carlos Sainz Jr.
    France- Jean-Eric Vergne & Jules Bianchi
    Mexico- Sergio Perez & Esteban Gutiérrez
    Brazil- Felipe Massa & Felipe Nasr
    Switzerland- Romain Grosjean & Fabio Leimer
    USA- Conor Daly & Alexander Rossi
    Russia- Danill Kvyat & Vitaly Petrov

    I know I added some guys who aren’t in F1 but there are still some solid teams in there. Which ones do you like? Would you make any changes?

    #263200
    Avatar of Little_M_Lo
    Little_M_Lo
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    Here is a few more…
    Netherlands – Giedo van der Garde & Daniël de Jong
    Japan – Kamui Kobayashi & Takuma Sato
    Sweden – Marcus Ericsson & Jimmy Eriksson
    Venezuela: Pastor Maldonado & Julián Leal

    also… replace Bianchi with Grosjean, we saw his pace at the end of last season..

    #263314
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    Iestyn Davies
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    I wonder if Alguersuari would replace Sainz Jr. Buemi could represent Switzerland.. perhaps Simona soon. I think that Netherlands would rather have Robin Frijns than Daniel de Jong as well. Leal is Columbian, so he could represent with Montoya. Cecotto and Maldonado would be a formidable crash team…. and once Kimi retires, I’d put Rosberg for Finland, and Hulkenberg for Germany! Hulk won the A1 GP for Germany, which followed this concept…

    Scotland – Paul di Resta, Susie Wolff ;)
    Belgium – Stoffel Vandoorne, Jerome D’Ambrosio
    New Zealand – Mitch Evans, Richie Stanaway
    Monaco – Stefano Coletti, Stephane Richelmi
    Austria – Rene Binder, Lucas Auer

    #263315
    Avatar of Iestyn Davies
    Iestyn Davies
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    Also I reckon that Sweden might take Felix Rosenqvist or Tom Blomqvist over Jimmy Eriksson.

    Denmark – Kevin Magnussen, Dennis Lind
    Indonesia – Rio Haryanto, Sean Gelael

    Depends how many teams you want to have… strangely there’s no Italy team (Ferrari). Ferrari are seeking to bring through Italian youngsters now like Marciello and Fuoco. Bianchi I feel is an honorary Italian in their squad, like Massa was (with Italian heritage).

    For 13, I guess I would pick England, Germany, Finland, France, Brazil, Spain, Australia, Japan, Mexico, Russia, Netherlands, Switzerland, USA. Reserves: Scotland, Sweden, Belgium.. New Zealand will be strong in a few years. You would be swapping them in and out based on driver performance, so when Scotland lost Coulthard they would drop and USA would step in with Rossi & Daly getting stronger in GP2.

    #263391
    Avatar of Little_M_Lo
    Little_M_Lo
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    Here is a full list then:
    Australia – AUS – Daniel RICCIARDO and Mark WEBBER
    Austria – AUT – Rene BINDER and Lucas AUER
    Belgium – BEL – Stoffel VANDOORNE and Jerome D’AMBROSIO
    Brazil – BRA – Felipe MASSA and Felipe NASR
    Canada – CAN – Jacques VILLENEUVE and Robert WICKENS
    Colombia – COL – Juan Pablo MONTOYA and Julián Leal
    Denmark – DEN – Kevin MAGNUSSEN and Dennis LIND
    England – ENG – Lewis HAMILTON and Jenson BUTTON
    Finland – FIN – Kimi RÄIKÖNNEN and Valterri BOTTAS
    France – FRA – Jean-Eric VERGNE and Romain GROSJEAN
    Germany – GER – Sebastian VETTEL and Nico ROSBERG
    Holland – DEU – Giedo VAN DER GARDE and Robin FRIJNS
    India – IND – Narain KARTHIKEYAN and Karun CHANDHOK
    Italy – ITA – Giancarlo FISICHELLA and Vitantonio LIUZZI
    Japan – JAP – Kamui KOBAYASHI and Takuma SATO
    Mexico – MEX – Sergio PEREZ and Esteban GUTIERREZ
    New Zealand – NZL – Mitch EVANS and Richie STANAWAY
    Russia – RUS – Daniil KVYAT and Vitaly PETROV
    Scotland – SCO – Paul DI RESTA and Susie WOLFF
    Spain – ESP – Fernando ALONSO and Carlos SAINZ JR.
    Sweden – SWE – Marcus ERRICSON and Felix ROSENQVIST
    Switzerland – SWI – Sebastian BUEMI and Fabio LEIMER
    United States – USA – Alexander ROSSI and Conor DALY
    Venezuela – VEN – Pastor MALDONADO and Johnny CECCOTO JR.

    24 Nations, 1 winner. I would reckon the best way to determine a winner would be through the current Speedway GP format, just with an extra (6th) round. A 2 Lap race with a Driver-Change in the pits after the first lap! Someone give Jean Todt a call :p

    #263394
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    Mathers
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    I’d love to see this sort of competition but surely Denmark would take Tom Kristensen, Austria would want Alex Wurz and perhaps Villeneuve would lose out to Hinchcliffe for Canada? And finally would Marcel Fassler beat Leimer to a Switzerland spot? I think the WEC guys and Hinch from Indy could show how good they are!

    #263395
    Avatar of David not Coulthard
    David not Coulthard
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    @pezlo2013 Holland is NED (NEDerland), Germany is DEUtschland (though GER should work just fine).
    And what about counting Great Britain as 1 (and Ireland as another 1 as well)?

    I think it should be a race (not rally), but also something that takes place on a track with “road” surfaces and “off-road” surfaces.

    Have Alex Lifeson, Jon Anderson, Richard Stallman, Linux Torvalds, and Warren Buffet design the track and have them led by @keithcollantine (It might turn out better than Tilkedromes, who knows?).

    Participants (copying @pezlo2013‘s list and replacing some drivers):

    Australia – AUS – Daniel RICCIARDO and Mark WEBBER
    Belgium – BEL – Stoffel VANDOORNE and Vanina ICKX
    Brazil – BRA – Felipe MASSA and Felipe NASR
    Canada – CAN – Jacques VILLENEUVE and Robert WICKENS
    The Middle Kingdom :) – PRC – MA Qinghua and Ho-Pin TUNG
    Colombia – COL – Juan Pablo MONTOYA and Julián LEAL
    Great Britain – GBR – Lewis HAMILTON and Paul DI RESTA
    Finland – FIN – Kimi RÄIKÖNNEN and Jari-Matti LATVALA
    France – FRA – Sebastien LOEB and Romain GROSJEAN
    Germany – DEU – Sebastian VETTEL and Nico HULKENBERG
    Holland – NED – Giedo VAN DER GARDE and Robin FRIJNS
    India – IND – Narain KARTHIKEYAN and Karun CHANDHOK
    Indonesia – INA – Rio HARYANTO and Rifat SUNGKAR
    Italy – ITA – Giancarlo FISICHELLA and Davide VALSECCHI
    Japan – JAP – Kamui KOBAYASHI and Takuma SATO
    Mexico – MEX – Sergio PEREZ and Esteban GUTIERREZ
    New Zealand – NZL – Mitch EVANS and Richie STANAWAY
    Norway – NOR – The SOLBERG brothers
    Russia – RUS – Daniil KVYAT and Vitaly PETROV
    Spain – ESP – Fernando ALONSO and Carlos SAINZ JR.
    Sweden – SWE – Marcus ERRICSON and Felix ROSENQVIST
    Switzerland – SWI – Sebastian BUEMI and Fabio LEIMER
    United States – USA – Alexander ROSSI and Ryan HUNTER-REAY
    Venezuela – VEN – Pastor MALDONADO and Johnny CECCOTO JR.

    #263450
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    Iestyn Davies
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    I think you are spot on @mathers… a bit odd that I didn’t think of them after just watching the Le Mans 24 hrs! I was stuck thinking of single seaters.. Villeneuve might have more pulling power than Hinch, while Fassler doesn’t seem to have any single seater experience.. e.g. Lotterer, Treluyer and Duval are reguarly at the front in Japanese F3000.

    Hehe Middle Kingdom.. who would be in the Ireland team? Adam Carroll I think is from Northern Ireland?

    #263512
    Avatar of JackySteeg
    JackySteeg
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    I’ve gone for a diverse grid. I feel some drivers who are at the top of other championships, namely sportscars or Indycars, would be better representatives for their nations than drivers who are merely in F1 feeder series. My grid would be like so:

    Australia – Daniel Ricciardo & Will Power
    Belgium – Stoffel Vandoorne & Jerome D’Ambrosio
    Brazil – Felipe Massa & Helio Castroneves
    Canada – James Hinchcliffe & Bruno Spengler
    Colombia – Juan Pablo Montoya & Carlos Munoz
    Denmark – Kevin Magnussen & Tom Kristensen
    Finland – Kimi Raikkonen & Valterri Bottas
    France – Loic Duval & Romain Grosjean
    Germany – Sebastian Vettel & Andre Lotterer
    Great Britain – Lewis Hamilton & Jenson Button
    India – Narain Karthikeyan & Karun Chandhok
    Italy – Giancarlo Fisichella & Gianmaria Bruni
    Japan – Kamui Kobayashi & Takuma Sato
    Mexico – Sergio Perez & Memo Rojas
    Netherlands – Jeroen Bleekemolen & Robin Frijns
    New Zealand – Mitch Evans & Scott Dixon
    Russia – Daniil Kvyat & Vitaly Petrov
    Spain – Fernando Alonso & Carlos Sainz Jr.
    Sweden – Marcus Ericsson & Felix Rosenqvist
    Switzerland – Sebastian Buemi & Marcel Fassler
    United States – Kyle Busch & Ryan Hunter-Reay
    Venezuela – Pastor Maldonado & Gustavo Yacaman

    #263515
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    Theo Parkinson
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    I always wanted something like this to happen. If it did, I wouldn’t want a drivers prize and I would prefer it to be completely team based. Possibly a championship with driver changes required at 50% distance of each race. Or maybe a tournament, with 2 teams going head to head in a series of heats (qualifying in fast single seaters, an off road rally qualifying, 1v1 3 lap sprint race in touring cars, and a 1v1 25% grand prix distance race with pitstops only for repair). Each driver has to do 2 events. In the group stages if there is a tie both teams get a point, but in the knockout there is a qualifying session that goes like a penalty shootout. Best of 5 flying laps wins.

    #263517
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    Theo Parkinson
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    So for the first ever World Motorsport Conference, located in Germany, the groups would be.

    Group A
    Germany
    Spain
    United States
    Japan

    Group B
    Finland
    Mexico
    Russia
    Venezuela

    Group C
    Australia
    Belgium
    Denmark
    Brazil

    Group D
    Great Britain
    France
    Switzerland
    Italy

    The race tracks used would be:
    Hockenheim
    Grand prix Nuburgring
    Original Nuburgring
    EuroSpeedway Lausitz
    Motorsport Arena Oschersleben
    Sachsenring

    I do not know of any rally courses although I am sure there are some quality courses, or ones that could be made.

    #263529
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    R.J. O’Connell
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    I had an idea of using three-man squads, with two racing drivers and one “substitution” driver if needed.

    AUSTRALIA: Mark Webber, Will Power, Daniel Ricciardo
    BELGIUM: Jerome d’Ambrosio, Stoffel Vandoorne, Thierry Neuville
    BRAZIL: Felipe Massa, Helio Castroneves, Lucas di Grassi
    CANADA: James Hinchcliffe, Bruno Spengler, Robert Wickens
    COLOMBIA: Juan Pablo Montoya, Carlos Munoz, Gabby Chaves
    DENMARK: Tom Kristensen, Kevin Magnussen, Nicki Thiim
    ENGLAND: Lewis Hamilton, Jenson Button, Anthony Davidson
    FINLAND: Kimi Raikkonen, Valtteri Bottas, Jari-Matti Latvala
    FRANCE: Sebastien Loeb, Romain Grosjean, Simon Pagenaud
    GERMANY: Sebastian Vettel, Nico Rosberg, Andre Lotterer
    INDIA: Narain Karthikeyan, Karun Chandhok, Aditya Patel
    ITALY: Gianmaria Bruni, Giancarlo Fisichella, Rafaelle Marciello
    JAPAN: Takuma Sato, Kamui Kobayashi, Kazuki Nakajima
    MEXICO: Sergio Perez, Memo Rojas, Daniel Suarez
    NETHERLANDS: Jeroen Bleekemolen, Robin Frijns, Giedo van der Garde
    NEW ZEALAND: Scott Dixon, Brendon Hartley, Richie Stanaway
    RUSSIA: Vitaly Petrov, Roman Rusinov, Daniil Kvyat
    SPAIN: Fernando Alonso, Carlos Sainz Jr, Marc Gene
    SWEDEN: Felix Rosenqvist, Matias Ekstrom, Marcus Ericsson
    SWITZERLAND: Marcel Fassler, Sebastien Buemi, Fabio Leimer
    UNITED STATES: Ryan Hunter-Reay, Jimmie Johnson, Kyle Busch
    VENEZUELA: Pastor Maldonado, Johnny Cecotto Jr, Ernesto Viso

    Teams missing the cut in qualification stage:

    ARGENTINA: Jose Maria Lopez, Facu Regalia, Matias Rossi
    AUSTRIA: Alexander Wurz, Richard Lietz, Christian Klien
    CHINA: Ho-Pin Tung, Ma Qing Hua, Congfu Cheng
    PORTUGAL: Alvaro Parente, Filipe Albuquerque, Antonio Felix da Costa

    #263710
    Avatar of David not Coulthard
    David not Coulthard
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    I’ve just realised my idea above basically amounts to rallycross. Having a single-seater race it would be nice, though.

    Oh, we’ve got the ROC, haven’t we……? My bad!

    A single-seater comparable-to-F1 world cup, though, an A1 GP w ith decent cars, and perhaps without being a spec series (which seems to be the idea behind the creator of this thread), would be nice……

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