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Hello
Welcome F1 Fanatics it’s time to get another race weekend started! First practice for the Austrian Grand Prix is go.
Two test drivers are running today: Sergey Sirotkin in Nico Hulkenberg’s Renault and Alfonso Celis in Sergio Perez’s Force India.
Interesting to see Sainz’s acceleration test at the exit of turn one – he braked at the exit of the corner, pointed the car straight and gunned it.
All quiet on the track now a quarter of an hour in. Track temperature is only 36C, it will be hotter for the competitive sessions. Tomorrow could be a bit of a scorcher.
Verstappen is flying – just 0.5 seconds behind Hamilton fastest time but Max on older Softs and Hamilton on Ultra Softs
Impressive to see Vandoorne up in eighth. This was one of McLaren’s best races last year – Button ran second at the start, hard to imagine that happening again on Sunday.
All quiet on the track again. First glance at the timing screens indicates this could be a tough weekend for Sauber.
Seems a little subdued today – maybe its just me of course.
Grosjean radios during a practice session and for once it’s not about his brakes.
It seems Haas have a ‘puncture mode’ the drivers can select when they’ve got a flat.
Vandoorne in 5th – wow
Which of the torro Rossi was that spin just in front of us?
Kvyat I think
Kvyat I think it was.
Thanks keith
Adrian was 2 minutes earlier.. no thanks for him ;)
Lap time record will be smashed this weekend
I think it has been already – from Keith’s Austrian GP Track Preview, the fastest lap in any session was 1’06.228
how many laps do we think drivers will do today in this practice
Does anyone know what was the Mclaren’s top speed? Has the spec 3 engine improved the car?
Vandoorne up in sixth is certainly impressive. Not seen their speed trap figure yet.
Thanks for joining in guys. Here’s the first practice results, the breakdown of times by tyre type will be up here shortly too:
Hello everyone and welcome back for the second practice session for the Austrian Grand Prix.
Hamilton set a scorching pace in the first session but Red Bull looked capable of keeping up with him. There were a fair few mistakes as well from several drivers.
The McLarens also showed improvement.. I wonder will it continue or not.
High chance of rain for this session apparently, let’s see if teams bring their qualifying runs forward.
Apologies for the lack of a breakdown of the drivers’ fastest times by tyres, by the way, this is because the FIA still hasn’t issued the times in full from the first session yet.
Bottas and Lewis exchanging new track records
Why Perez is still in pits?
Never mind
Raikkonen complaining about photographers as he did in Canada. Think these ones are in the pits though.
He was standing a bit too close and had to move back, I can imagine it’s very distracting for the drivers.
After a Long time, Is this fastest lap times so far in Austria or is there any faster times than what we currently have?
Ricciardo on US or SS?
US from what i saw
Thank you. Live Timing did say so. But Autosport quoted differently. No coverage here. Wimbledon everywhere :(
Bottas faster by 0.001 lol 105.699 on US
He was 0.2 up on s2 though he messed up in final 2 corners but still not enough difference , Guess they are trying to improve a bit more
Oh Bottas in the run off area, back on track now, wow spun just in time to avoid the barriers well done lol.
So many driver mistakes compared to normal FP… Is there any reasonable explanation to that?
Vettel fastest atm 105.630, Lewis just beat him by 105.483
Looks like there isn’t any big difference between US and SS.
Verstappen is finally out
Nice and close at the front and it looks like there’s finally some progress at McLaren.
I dont think the progress is there or atleast as it look to be noticeable yet i feel They are 1.4sec off might dip that into less than a sec off in Here which is shortest lap time of all year. I hope and pray they made progress though
Hamilton gaining massively in S1. Bottas needs to copy that and Ferrari need to figure it out.
Massively ? No They are faster in S1 and most of the Merc time is coming from S1 over vettel Hamilton did a 16.601 on SS but didn’t improved on that on US. Bottas though did 16.562 on US which is fastest S1 so far. Vettel also did a 16.729 on SS but couldn’t improve that on US. They are much closer in S2/S3.
I was looking at Vettel in S1 on US. It was a 16.8. Didn’t know he did 16.7 on SS. Still that’s a tenth slower and that is the difference here basically.
Yes, but so is lewis though. All in all there isn’t big difference between US and SS. I guess its between 2-4 tenths unless Tomorrow proves other wise
Hoping this is Ferrari’s low power PU and they have something in hand for Q and Race.
I don’t know , Vettel is running his Pu #1 but then again Merc are also on Low power mode. so they have more to unleash. I love this track hoping Qualification will be exciting
PU#1? What did he use in Baku then? I thought that was the old PU? Or it is still surviving? Touchwood!
Im not too sure about it as i read in twitter feed as it said Vettel will have his Pu#2 which had issues on Baku Saturday will be fitted tomorrow. As Vettel is using only 2 Pu’s that means he was Running Pu#1 or better ICE #1 which was forced to use in Baku Q and R
Cheers! Can’t wait for the PU upgrade in Silverstone. Hopefully it performs as expected. Need some trump card to gain an advantage here.
Sky F1: Alonso has damaged his floor, and supposedly still waiting to change it..
updates? trying to watch
Hamilton heads for the pits after reporting a problem on his Mercedes. The team had told him to select strat mode six so it seems it may be power unit related.
Guess the rumble strips will be forced to take off considering how sainz did that
SS vs US Comparison HAM: 1:05.731 vs. 1:05.483 (0.248) – BOT: 1:05.700 vs. 1:05.699 (0.001) – VET: 1:05.852 vs. 1:05.630 (0.222) Bottas was up on S2 by 2 tenths and had a bad S3 due to running off in the penultimate corner.
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Thanks for joining in guys, here’s the report on second practice:
Hello everyone and welcome to F1 Fanatic Live for final practice ahead of the Austrian Grand Prix.
All drivers have nine sets of tyres left. The Mercedes, Ferrari, Haas and Sauber drivers have six new sets of ultra-softs, the rest have seven. All the drivers have one set of softs remaining and only Haas have put any running on those tyres.
Alonso has to revert back to the old-spec Honda engine. Vandoorne really needs to end his losing streak in qualifying today then!
Sainz still in the car. Trying an MGU-K restart?
Tried, failed, the marshals are pushing him away.
what a brilliant start to P3, considering all the talk around him this week)))
Ugh, the sky coverage is painful. They just are not talking about what is on the screen! Just talking about penlties, Baku and reading out comments. It is hard to believe Crofty is actually the commentater for what is on the screen. He just isn’t following what is happening. I’ve sometimes listened to it on BBC radio 5 live sports extra and watched Sky on mute and they talk much more related stuff to what is on the screen. Sky really should be better than this.Channel 4 are far better. Ben Edwards and Karun Chandhok on Channel 4 sound far more interested in what is happening and keep on topic!
I bought nowtv for this month’s f1 races on sky. But it is painful. All about the incident. Every segment starts with that. We have a great season. Don’t let one stupid incident overshadow it. Although I am certain Vettel targeted Hamilton’s headrest pins 😂 Let’s get back to racing 🏁🏎
Wonder if we might see lap times dip into the 63s today…
1 05 384 from Vettel, not too bad
and he pits immediately. I wonder what was the fuel load
Anyone knows what happened to Alonso regarding his engine?
Found something odd and reverted to previous spec. It is a known excuse for Honda now. No change in the record.
so no Spec3 engine for 2 consecutive races, correct?
They could get it back for Silverstone. It is a power circuit and considering all the boasting that McLaren are doing about their chassis, makes sense to be in best possible shape.
it is still on Vandoorne’s car though, no?
Yup. That is correct.
SAI back on track
HAM 1st, 0.023 ahead of VET
Well this would bode well for a close fight for pole between the championship contenders if Hamilton didn’t have a penalty.
Can somebody tell what the standings are right now, i’m ar work so i can’t see it :(
VET 2 sec slower in the last sector. the first two were purple. What happened there?
Caught Hamilton, waved at him and passed him.
He complained about traffic.
without hitting hum? oh my…
Once was the limit I suppose :)
S1,2,3 Purple for Vettel. Top by 2 tenths.
Wondering if there’s different set-ups on the Ferraris. Raikkonen has been consistently half a second off Vettel, which is a fair margin at a track this short, and he’s 4kph down in the speed trap too.
Brake faillure. That could have been a lot worse had he crashed there.
I don’t know if it was a brake failure. More like a brake problem. They all locked up and did slow him down so they hadn’t totally failed.
Only the the right one failed. He still had enough braking power in the left one, hence the massive lock up.
Yes, sorry, now i see a replay, I see one did fail by the look of it.
For whom?
so, VET for pole? )) time to fill out the predictions sheet. See u)
Sorry thought FP3 starts now what happened so far
What happened to Lewis Car is it BBW failure or normal overheating issues
His front right brake appeard to fail with a load of dust. He then locked up and the front left managed to do the rest of the slowing down. You could see that the front right was just freely turning so there clearly was an issue. He then went back to the pits in 1st gear as he didn’t want to risk going fast.
Yup just caught up with the replay . Guess their asymmetric breaking made issues as the right front brake temp is used alot to warm up the right front tire. It might have got too much overheat caused the brake disc to blow up
What exactly happened to Williams and Force India guess their cars just doesn’t suit to Austira
So, who for pole? I think it is a fight between Verstappen, Vettel, Bottas for P1. Personally, I am gunning for Max to get his first pole position.
Hello everyone and welcome to F1 Fanatic Live for the qualifying session for the Austrian Grand Prix.
Lewis Hamilton’s penalty has taken some of the intrigue out of the battle for pole position but we should still have at least three drivers in the hunt. And perhaps one of the Red Bulls will pull out something special…
I predict the pole time (should the upcoming qualifying be dry) will be in the high 1m03s or in the low 1m04s.
Can you tell me what happened with Force India&Williams’ car?
Vettel would be likely on pole today due to Hamilton’s penalty.
Will Alonso use spec3 engine or, the old one he used on FP3
Hi guys. When/if do you think Kubica will return?
If he does I suspect it won’t be until 2018.
Bumpy ride for Grosjean.
Horrible football-style animated billboards now being used by FOM, I see.
Looks like Magnussen ran the kerbs too hard.
Williams really not looking good here. One car in the drop zone and the other on the cusp.
Why does ferrari keep using the softer tyre in QP1?
Harder I mean
Oh Kimi :( 0,5s difference here doesn’t look too good
Perez coming in for a helmet change, that’s novel!
Time out of sync on some server somewhere, Keith? (Check the comment timestamps.)
they could always use an old spec honda server on those to rectify the issue
They have been like this all year I think. I think Keith will sort it out sometime but it doesn’t matter that much. they seem to be incorrect by about 14 minutes.
RAI P11..
SS while all the others have run with US, except his team mate and BOT… still unacceptable
P2
Th sound of cars on the kerbs sound like a piston engined plane.
VET and BOT haven’t used USoft in Q1…could help tomorrow.
Dear me Williams. That upgrade package really didn’t work.
easy to say now, but they should have gone back to previous package after friday.
Vandoorne beaten by Alonso with a slower engine?
What do you expect, It’s Fernando…
And that old one seems broken as well hearing Alonso’s latest comments.
his engine smoked something :) on screen shown…
Duct tape. Duct tape to fix the cracked engine.
they could always go to their x1bxca version of their gazillion old stocks…
Wow. That will be interesting to have HAM start on SSoft
He has that 5 place penalty, so it’s good strategic move.
Word is that there’s not much wear difference from SS to US though.
both have to be used for the race, and ham using early and outpacing reds is good for ham… also us is faster so ham using later should give him the advantage given he keeps pacing with leaders…
Exactly. The lack of wear difference means both over- and undercut are in play for strategy.
Slightly OT, maybe its the acoustics of the location, but the cars sound particularly bloody awful here.
Slightly on topic maybe people should care about their ear drums, and not want them blown…
Earplugs = $5
@ I’m not talking about purely about volume.
very good time from BOT, it is looking like track record may be keep improving… anyone 1.03s?
Bottas not helping Hamilton. Vettel piling it on.
Predictions: I’m 0.030 off the pole time. I suspect it will get faster though.
Grosjean having an incomparably better weekend than he had two weeks ago.
Yet to use new tires as well.
BTW, thank you for fixing the LIVE link. The 502 Gateway errors are a thing of the past.
high 1.03.8XX? ham? or bot? looks like bot have it in the bag… better coming together for him
Amen to that Martin. (“McLaren and two Williams out in Q1”)
yellow
Grosjean having the last laugh on the pole fight.
So HAM P8
YES! Bottas! That’s how it’s done! Time to get back to WDC fight tomorrow!
i think they should ban renault and honda engines… causing al the drama in f1 and disturbing everyone around them…
This one was from a Ferrari.
If so, I don’t think Mercedes or Ferrari want to supply Red Bull the engine..
Instruction to Kimi; Swat any RB that comes your way from behind.
more like any mercedes…. test their brakes…
Bottas should slow to help Ham overtake cars tomorrow….just kidding
Bottas has learned a thing or two from Kimi regarding team radios…
Too bad Max couldn’t make a clean lap in q3
Well its anticlimactic but after how it was said about directive hurt Ferrari, it looks like there isn’t any change what so ever. usually Merc has 1-2 tenths leg on Ferrari when they unleash every thing. Which shows again here
Less than two tenths slower than my pole time prediction.
Boys…
Im really waiting for next week Qualification alot now. how much faster they could go considering they will have Super soft in there.
No handshake from Hamilton… Well that’s classy, not.
Yeah really, grow up guys. Move on.
Indeed.
grow up are serious? after he blew away hamilton s chance of a win in baku, u need to wake up man
a mistake from valsechi. not the time.
Yeah, they have to grow up first.
Cheers all. Hope the race will be more exciting tomorrow.
Cheers, all systems: Go!
Hello everyone and welcome to F1 Fanatic Live, we’re an hour and a half away from the start of round nine of the championship, the Austrian Grand Prix!
Moderate or heavy rain shower possible at around an hour before the race (a few minutes from now.
is it raining now?
not raining, but dark clouds
Max is truly a sensation. Just 2.5 years into his F1 career, he is making grandstands full outside of his home country! Not since Hamilton’s debut in 2007 have I seen such frenzy for any driver. Truly special talents both of them. I would love to have a Hamilton-Max pairing at Ferrari if/when Vettel decides to hang his boots. A Ferrari-Hamilton-Max is the most potent crowd pulling proposition that can be..
The support for Verstappen is truly impressive. Good news for the future of F1.
@keithcollantine For once, that’s a hype I understand. I’ve rarely seen such a spectacular wet-weather driver (just google the last three words in quotation marks, the results speak for themselves), and he’s also shown some refreshingly aggressive moves. There’s no denying he’s a driver who stands out from the crowd, whether he’s reached the top tier yet, or not.
Wehrlein’s pit lane start confirmed after a turbo change:
“As the turbocharger is of a different specification from the one originally used in qualifying the competitor is required to start from the pit lane and should follow the procedures laid out in Article 36.2 of the FIA Formula One Sporting Regulations.”
Will both Mclaren’s last until the chequered flag today?
Don’t bet on it!
Invariably the thing in Formula One which attracts the most hype isn’t a driver or a team or a track – it’s the weather, particularly when there’s a slight chance of rain…
Hello from Austria, sitting at turn 4 :)
Hello! Got an umbrella?
Of course, it’s a must wether it’s sunny or raining (at the moment hot and sunny)
Big chance for Haas to get some serious points today with Grosjean up in sixth. He won’t worry about keeping Hamilton behind but will surely race the Force Indias hard.
Reports Marchionne has called Raikkonen a “laggard”. If Grosjean really wants that seat now’s his time to shine…
for Finnish TV Marchionne said Kimi is doing fine job, but he will talk with Kimi today.
Hello from a deserted bar in Ermones, Corfu. On holiday from the UK and had to find somewhere to watch the GP, haven’t missed one is 5 years… #LH44
Not the Tom Randle who was racing at the Hungaroring last weekend I take it?
Haha, no but I have heard of him! Maybe one day… 👍🏻
Ericsson is told there’s no rain visible on the radar.
It just isn’t looking dark enough for rain at the moment to me. I think it could well be the case that there won’t be any at all.
Guten tag!
Howdy!
Both Hamilton and Ricciardo asking how the track temperature compares to second practice on Friday. It’s 48C, which is 4C hotter…
What a mix of tyres in the second 10. All 3 dry types.
suprised WEH is on SS and not softs.
Hello all just in time
hey LAK
Oh no Verstappen again
Verstappen again
GRO in P4!
I agree with Vettel. Bottas did look to possibly jump the start a tiny bit.
I feel bad for the Dutch fans on the stand…
Think Kvyat will get in trouble for that. A bit of a repeat of Sochi last year.
Wow that was bad from Kvyat.
That a bye bye for kyvat toro Rosso 2018
He is secured by Acronis. And he is much faster than Sainz. And he is having most mechanical failures again this year, so pretty much Marko understands it.
My god Kvyat ruins the race for both Alonso and Verstappen…
And himself
Ver and Sai ruined their races by their own. If Sai wouldn’t sleep the start Kvyat wouldn’t go off to dirt, so would be able to break with clear tyres.
Seriously what brand of cream crackers do Haas make their T-wings out of?They’re always flapping around.
I thought movable aerodynamic devices weren’t allowed?
It’s a movable aerodynamic device
That shot from the frontalong Grojeans car was crazy!
Ham up to 5th after passing Perez and Grosjean
Did it say bottas reaction time was 0.2 secs? If so how can that be a jump start?
It’s not a jump start. They’re saying on Sky, you can’t “anticipate the start” but I don’t think you can prove that either way.
How can you NOT anticipate the start? Wait 5 minutes after the lights go out before everyone goes?
Uhm, how about by not starting until you see the lights go out?
Exactly. If he moved 0.2 secs after the lights went off I don’t see the problem
0.2 should be ok.
It looked like less than 0.2sec, 5-6 frames of the TV replay is equal to 0.2 sec, and it looked like fewer frames than that.
Yes. 0.001 secs should be OK per the regulations. Lucky, but OK. 0.2 secs is a normal reaction time.
If RAI can’t keep HAM behind him then RAI needs to be replaced.
His car is broken again.
now they are showing the reaction times, I think it will be really silly if they give Bottas any penalty.
By the way, why don’t we get to see a table of the reaction times of all drivers at the start? The data clearly exists so why not show us it? I’d love to see reaction time, 0-100 time, first 200m time etc
Yeah, that would be great!
kimi and lewis identical time the last lap
Fastest possible human reaction time is 0.15 – 0.2 sec
Or those that can spend $80 million to get there :-)
“If a sprinter moves within 0.1s of the pistol, this is considered to be a false start, as it is impossible for them to have reacted that fast.” Interesting article.
Update on Max’s start: there was an issue with the clutch already with the formation lap. At the real start the clutch was gone, so he got into anti stall. So again technical failure for Max.
Ham gaining on Kimi
Pace on softs only hope for Ferrari.
Magnussen has horrific looking groove on inside of both front tyres. Blistering, presumably.
On super softs.
RAI/HAM almost a pit stop behind BOT. 16+ secs already.
This looks like a 2 stop race now
Softs should still be good for a run to the end. Palmer going well on them.
So, KVY is still circulating despite having used his car as a bowling ball to knock down two pins (ALO, VER)?
How is the Ferrari so slow in S2 after blitzing it in Qualifying?
are they still concidering a penalty for Bottas’s start? I think that will just be too harsh. That was nothing like other jump starts that I can remember. Like Ericsson one time in 2015 and Maldonado in Spa 2012. They will have been huge advantages. Bottas barely did anything unusual, just a quicker reaction than others, which is a good thing!
BOT FLAP. Not quite as fun to type as when Jenson was racing…
kakakakaka
Vettel not really faster than Kimi at this point.
No pen for Bottas.
ofc no pen, he did a great start he has amazing reactions
What about some rain?
Stroll keeps on heavily locking up at T4.
Vettel must buy Kimi ice cream after the race. He’s keeping Lewis behind for so many laps.
Lol
Hugely unlucky weekend for MAG, he was very quick in practice.
MAG haas haad it.
he haas, haasn’t he?
34 laps on ultrasofts and going.
US for Ham? The leaders are struggling with it.
Ferrari will have to do a super stop for Kimi to get him out in from top Ham.
Ham pits before Kimi and is back out P5, didn’t lose any places.
LH undercut
First swearing faux pas by FOM this year?
What did MAG say?
Why did they put ultras on Hamilton?
he started with supersofts, so they must use something else.
only new set he got.
I thought they would go for the soft instead.
Used softs
Would used softs be better than new ultras?
Nope.
Ultra Softs for Hamilton is quite surprising. Two stops?
34 laps on full load. Can easily do 37 on decreasing fuel. New set as well.
Well.. he has to drive in dirty air – sliding more than others in free air. It’s a bit different. Let’s see if the traction is holding up enough over several laps to make a move.
He has been in dirty air of Kimi for too long. Will easily get Ric when he comes there. Speed difference with DRS huge.
dang..1.07 there..go lewis
Vettel and Ric pit, Vet P3, Ric P4.. The Finns still have to pit..
New SS for Vettel. He better hope it has the pace.
Looks like Perez blocked Bottas..
Ham not happy with his rear tyres
“Far too much front wing”, he says.
Yeah, expected him to be faster than this.
Rear blistering already for Hamilton.
I think used softs would have been better.
The leaders were lapping well. They did struggle compared to the SS of Hamilton. But with reduced fuel load, it should have helped theoretically.
Guess wasn’t so good to go for Ultra Soft. :P
He is going strong yet. It is a bit of try to trick the rivals I think. See his laps times.
All weekend long I’ve not been convinced by the weather reports claiming rain. But this could sure do with a late shower…
Bottas coming in
Fin vs. Fin upcoming?
Lol poor Kimi forced to stay out longer.
Like Bottas in Spain.
Bottas passes Kimi fairly easily.
ofc, kimi isn t the kimi of the mclaren days anymore
Well yeah but he also had much older tyres and Bottas had new ones. There wasn’t much he could have done there.
Something wrong with Vet? Ver poor S1, slow S2.
some lapped cars only
Thank you :) Relief!
The pit crews seem to be in slow motion for this race yet the pit times are so fast.
Vandoorne gets a drive thru penalty for ignoring blue flags. Sainz asked to box and retire.
i can fairly admit that kimi isn t the kimi of the mclaren days…. fairly easy pass from bottas
Didn’t have a chance really, particularly with DRS.
30+ lap tyres vs brand new ones. I agree with you but I think it’d have been easy pass if it was other way around as well.
right, can t argue with that
Who has the current fastest lap guys?
HAM 1.07
Thx
ham with a 1.07
Kimi coming strong.
Marchionne in the garage :(
Haha like the Renault Tweet. :)
:-)
VET 1:07.713 FLAP
Trading FLAPs, BOT and VET.
The cars over the kerbs sound like ww2 plane engines.
hahahaa
any chance bottas going under 1.07?
u can bet on it, he hasn t put a foot wrong this whole weekend, amazing drive by the young finn
I already have! That’s why I”m asking hahah
Too high a target. 1:07.7 is the FLAP now.
Kimi is eating the gap to HAM quite fast now
Wow – they’re still talking about possible rain at the end of the race.
We need a radar link
Kimi FLAP.
Kimi 1:07:680 FLAP
Looks like Hamilton’s car’s improving in the second half of his stint.
nice one kimi, 1.07.680
RAI makes too many mistakes
RIC matching HAM’s improved pace
Raikkonen seems especially sweary today. Perhaps he heard about Marchionne’s “laggard” comment before he got in the car.
I normally find something to enjoy in every Grand Prix… but this is pretty dull. A SC or some rain is needed for a bit of last lap spice and save the day!
Austria gp always been dull since the return of 2014…
HAM 1:07.675 FLAP
Hamilton only edging towards Ricciardo but his pace advantage in sector one is huge. If he gets a sniff of DRS he may well get past.
Did Hulk get damaged on lap 1? Weird to see him slower than Palmer all race.
Ham FLAP
my comment was deleted because i said vettel is a crybaby…..:)
Envy on that bottas absolutely perfect start
exactly
Perez saw some rain!
A Bottas win has also a positive aspect for Vettel – Hamilton’s team mate will be less willing to move for Hamilton should there be a case.
It’s concerning that Mercedes #2 can easily handle Ferrari #1
This weekend he was Mercedes’ #1.
+1
Is HAM still FLAP ?
apparently he is
1:07:484 if I remember right. Kimi just drove 1:07.486
This is when someone’s engine blows and we get a Safety Car until the end…
HAM 1.07.411 FLAP while trying to overtake RIC
Well that was fun at the end
what is FLAP ??
Fastest LAP
ok thanks
1:07:411 for LH44
When you fly away! Not really:D Fastest lap.
Fastest Lap
The super softs were crap today.
what a final lap!!!!!!
They didn’t know which battle to show, I wouldn’t have minded seeing the one for the lead more than the one for 3rd
Wish they’d experiment with a split-screen, one half with a battle, each. We see it to compare quali laps, so what about in-race?
Even despite good fun during last couple of laps, a very meh race.
That in-car with Vettel on last lap was insane
bwoaaarrrrrr
11th place for Palmer.
Doesn’t sound like a interesting race
Good to see Romain already tweeting his placing from the cockpit
How is that possible ? He carries a phone in the car?
Yes! Tweet&Drive is an official campaign by Formula 1. ;)
it was damage limitation in this race for ham in the battle for the wdc, 20 points difference instead of 14
Vettel: “One more lap, aye…”
Enough with Austria GP it’s too short and boring..
Heiko Waßer from RTL messing up Mika Häkkinen with Kimi Räikkönen – quality stuff from him once again.
It looking Mercedes will win 4th straight constructor championship, because of Kimi…
Doesn’t sound like a interesting race
I mean gap is now 33 points
I would say, because of Bottas!
Red bull ring and spa look like little sub machine guns.
Spa in particular looks like the uzi
Red bull ring looks like a tommy gun.
What’re the chances of Bottas catching Hamilton in the championship by the end of the year?
He is doing great isn’t he
Guessing BOT will still be at Mercedes next year.
I expected a lot of boo at Vettel if he on podium in silverstone..
Always embarrassing when lowlifes attract attention.
Thanks as always for joining in guys, give your verdict on the Austrian Grand Prix here:
Interesting to see him trying to look past glare on it while sitting in garage, trying to look at screen on other side of it. Wonder how Singapore, sun reflecting on it, work then.
Can they give it an anti-glare tint, perhaps?
I hope so, yes.
Buxton mentioned on Twitter that Seb reported blurred view too, possibly because of the needed thickness to withstand/absorb impacts. That glare is going to be a huge issue with lights and with a low sun. Still needs quite a bit of on track time to make it work IMO.
Was that a radio message from Daniil Kvyat which didn’t have to be censored? Extraordinary.
Vettel has to pit after flat-spotting his tyres.
So, on Sky, di Resta was just now saying he want open cockpits so we can see helmets etc. I have to say, from my experience last weekend in Austria, having been quite close to the track, that really doesn’t work super currently for people at the track: most designs are too cluttered and therefore become a blur of something.
In concreto (and sorry for a bit of a rant) HAM’s yellow is great, idenitifyable (hence can recognize BOT from not being him), VET white works (and thus Kimi is the other …), kvy/sai/ric/ver – too much RBR to distinguiguish at speed; MAS: that neon-yellow swoosh on top works (and !=stroll) ; Hulk/Palmer: meh, FI – both shades of pink, nvm. ERI/WEH – light/yellow vs. darker, okayish. So for identifying drivers, that’s not great is it? But I agree good to see head, though shield doesn’t imair that too much, I think.
By the way, other ways to identify drivers, by those numbers, again from Austria experience? Yeah, 33 vs 3 at speed is sometimes doable; 77/44 works bc. colour, Ferrari 5/7 bit small but good contrast; Sauber okayish on sidepod; FI,Williams, Haas, Renault – useless. McLaren unreadable too, too cleverly small (very McLaren?).
I’m not keen on having the driver’s surname abbreviations on the cars, they should just stick with the numbers.
Agree very much; oh, STR – the red on dark blue numbers are hard to spot too, didn’t help at all. Also, FIA needs to decide where number should go and how big, specific place on all cars so we know where to look.
Exactly, the way Red Bull makes those numbers stand out works really well, like they do in NASCAR. The abbreviations are hard to read at speed and magnified by things like using unreadable red (STR), the placing of them (McLaren and FI) or not having great contrast (Haas) and being too small to read at speed (Renault, Sauber). The boldly lined RBR numbers work great, the Ferrari number in a badge makes it stand out enough to read too. That should be the approach on all cars for next year IMO
With the shield, I think it will be quite hard to discern those helmets, especially if they don’t get rid of the glare on it.
I remember when I identified Vettel on TV based on whether the helmet was of WEB’s design.
Glad to see more T-cams are being used by the director instead of those retro shoulder-view cameras. Here’s hoping this trend will continue.
vettel on SS nearly 2 seconds behind Bottas on S. Doesn’t look good
Too early to jump to definite conclusions as we don’t know the fuel loads, for example.
sure. But I just don’t remember them being so far behind in FP1 this year.
Alonso looks faster, gains for Honda?
It could be a sign that the 3rd variant of this year’s Honda is working more or less as intended now
New track record already for Bottas on the soft tyres – 1’29.106. These cars are seriously quick here.
And Bottas quite a bit faster than Lewis so far. Also a pretty large spread between cars
Ferrari seems to be slowly upping their pace in the speed traps. Maybe they are evaluating their new engine upgrade during this FP1?
Red Bull do not look anywhere near Mercedes this weekend so far, do they. Being half a second off with the softer tyres … Hamilton now about as fast as Bottas though, and Ferrari seems to be slowly building up their speeds too.
Thanks for taking part everyone, here’s the run-down on first practice:
Glad Sky is doing something to counter Horner’s disingeneous talk about how it’s all Silverstone mismanagement.
What was he saying?
Oh, they asked him abt. Silverstone contract, he said it was a great track but BRDC did everything wrong with new part, esp. wing – Hill: yeah, FOM wanted a building like that, and some other ways it turned out aren’t ideal, but came out of all the multiple demands on the track; brundle pitched in too.
Second practice is coming up shortly. Five teams didn’t run the super-soft tyre this morning so expect the running order to change a bit. Here’s the best times from first practice by tyre:
Surprise, surprise: Grosjean is complaining about his brakes again.
I always think that the brake wasn’t the issue, it’s him…magnussen never complain about his brake…
Is HAM on S/softs now?
no, Soft
Looking at these times, could we approach 1:26es in quali?
It’s looking like that. Incredible.
Doesn’t look like they’re gaining a huge amount of time from soft to super-soft, though.
Maybe the super-soft are degrading during the lap?
Hm, Bottas on SSoft a bit less than half a tenth faster than Hamilton, indeed doesn’t seem very big gain (though BOT only ran medium so far)
From my Calculation the SS is over 3-5 tenths advantage on average but thats not enough though we can see much faster times when the track rubbers in and they take fuel out
Hamilton with out his mistake at maggots and becketts and considering his S3 time he can do a 28.0-28.2 Which is mighty impressive for these cars. I guess when every thing is off we might see 26 mid to high.
Dear me it really isn’t looking good for Palmer. Eight-tenths off.
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From the onboards with speedo meter i observed that they are cutting out the H after they exit the Abby,Copse and Stowe . I didn’t remember this last year, Guess they used to have bit more braking zone which helped them to gain K which negated H deficit. now they can’t , its time i guess we can term Silverstone as Engine Track rather than Aero track given how H becoming even more predominant
Hiii Alll! To all British fans enjoy your home GP, and those in Silverstone hope you have a great weekend! :D
Cars flying off now at Becketts, change of wind catching them out there
Good to see it is challenging, probably.
Judging by the long runs, Soft is the best racing tyre
Whoops: FOM let Ricciardo’s team radio go out uncensored…
Ah, not on the world feed though.
So Bottas wraps up both practice sessions on top at Silverstone but Hamilton was close both times. Here’s the final practice session report:
Vettel’s sending up so many sparks he’s going to set the track on fire.
is it going to rain for qualy? what’s the prediction
Apparently it is supposed to clear a bit after noon, although maybe only around 14:00 (when qualifying will already end).
Was Alonso running without the T-wing there?
looks like it indeed.
maybe going for a tad extra straight line speed?
Dan Ricciardo gets a 5spot grid penalty too for a gearbox change?
yep
Ah so much for the new updates..
Hello Allll :)
Will anyone try to do some laps in wet conditions?
I think no one wants to risk anything before Quali
Looks like we’re not going to see any improvements now.
indeed. No use risking damage to the cars. Surprising that McLaren sends out Stoffel. Did he have an issue they repaired an now want to see everything is working?
Vandoorne out on inter!
Brave, ok they’re saying that he had problems so he’s testing them out..
yeah, looks like they just did something like an installation lap with him, already back into the pits
Verstappen now having a look outside too.
Bit of a narrow escape for Ricciardo there!
My pole time prediction: (should qualifying stay dry throughout) 1:26.650.
that’s very agressive, I think a 1:27.0 or slightly below it will be maximal
Yes, generally the improvement from FP3 to Qualifying is around 1 second, but this time it might be around 1.5 as FP3 was partially wet, which means that we possibly didn’t get to see the usual one-lap pace improvement from FP2 to FP3.
Evening all from Bangkok. Looks like Q is going to be a bit more interesting with grid drops for both Battas and Ricardo. Should make for an even more interesting race tomorrow.
Oops… Bottas*
“Stoff and the team navigate the twists and turns of Silverstone’s iconic circuit.” From the McLaren Tweet… I wonder if he walks slower than Alonso as well?
Go away rain!
If it rain, what out for red bull
*watch
Stay here rain!
Radar suggests the rain is over. But who really knows?
Twitter knows!
And the umbrellas in the crowd. They know too.
wait, what time is the qualy? Did I really miss the prediction deadline?
we are bńow about 7 minutes into Q1
yeah I did… ouch
More rain please don’t stop, Ham out Q1 lol
Sorry to disappoint you he’s 3rd so far
Red Flag
yeah, I think it will be hard to quickly recover Ricciardos car from there. They don’t have Monaco like cranes here.
why red flag?
And ones again a redbull breaking down
Any times set? I have no live feed here.
Most people set a time, yes, including RIC (1st).
Good… Thanks
The saubers didn’t, and Palmer is low, but not sure he’d get much ahead
If it dries up, Ricciardo’s time is toast
He’s starting last anyways, so does it matter?
How much time is left in Q1?
10 minutes
8 minutes
This is exciting for me, I don’t have a clue as to what’s actually happening on the track unless someone tells me! I love it! It’s like a blind date!
VET just went 1.5s faster than HAM, but, times are falling fast
Thanks
Hi guys, just joined. Finally, a wet Grand Prix. England do your worst, bring it on (the rain)!
So Riccardo will start second last after his 5 place grid penalty.
I think ALO might be going for slicks (VAN?)
oh, it’s Vandoorne
3 minutes left and not many in the pits to change to dry tires.
So who is in the drop zone right now
Usual plus ALO
Thanks
ALO made it by less than a second to do a lap on dry tires
Max FLAP!
Surely Ric takes all brand new components and takes the grid penalty as he will start at the back anyway
ALO P1
I could cry right now.
Bravissimo, Fernando )))
ALO FLAP Q1! In a spectacular fashion on slicks!
How long has it been since he’s been fist in a session
ALO P1!! Plus a huge grid drop penalty right?
Love the cheers all over the track when he did it!
Stroll family reaction hahaha
yeah, 30 spots
Yeah, he’ll still battle with RIC for last spot I guess (depends on when penalty is counted?), but perfectly done by Alonso and McLaren, great story and great to see the crowd response!
Madman. He could have been there with inters but gambled on slicks to top the session! And he did it.
Honestly, with his 30 spots grid drop, he could have just not bothered after his first lap. But I think these are the little thrills he keeps himself amused with, having just a few hundreds to spare to even be able to get a lap in and nail it with the best time. Great moment.
And for the team too, showing us and themselves they are able to do it if given the chance, great motivation.
Stroll rises up to occasion to impress his family.
Where did he come?
Alonso just knock him out of Q1
Yawn.
He didn’t need to do it, but he did it regardless. Good sport!
exactly.
That was a magical one minute and 38 seconds. ALO the only driver on a live lap at the death, lighting the timing screens up, and duly takes P1 in Q1. As meaningless as it is, the crowd erupting really made that lap something.
+ 1
That Renault is beginning to look like a proper race car. (In the hands of good pilot) ;)
Nice to see Billy Monger in there with Mercedes in the garage.
The graphics are appauling this year. We can’t see the times! Way to lacking in information
Yep, I am pretty convinced they are trying to get us to use the app (is that stable now? I stopped trying it)
You need to pay even to access the leader board
This annoys me as well. It seems to get worse every GP
If Keith will allow, this is a great timing feed website. I always use it and now when I have no TV or fast internet, it is extremely valuable. Remove spaces: f1. tfeed. net /live
Softs seems a good tyre to start the race on for Bottas
So Perez held up Vettel, but is also in the dropzone?
Ocon right front was beat up already
Ooh, Vandoorne outqualifies Alonso!
Was Alonso trying?
ofc he was.
I don’t think he was pushing it as much. No sense risking putting Vandoorne out of Q3 when he himself will be starting at the back anyway
Alonso on old engine?
The Hulk is flying, let’s see what max can do
Bottas 2 tenths quicker than the Ferraris while being on a harder tyre is depressing from the championship perspective
Not so much depressing now, is it?
You know… I really like this Renault team.
I like more if Hulk team mate is Kubica….
Ferrari need a trump card for this championship. Consistently slower than Mercedes on Saturday.
They not far off Mercedes
If Mercedes can be this much far over a large number of laps tomorrow, then it is over.
HAM under investigation and rightly so I reckon
yeah, looked pretty obvious there in the replay. Grosjeans time loss also fits the accusation
Kimi on pole then? :)
Kimi on pole !!!
hehe, Kimi, you’re such a troll))))
Not a laggard :)
Vettel fails at the crucial moment. Good that he gets the clean side, if that’s any consolation.
Yes Kimi ! Pole wooo
Is this a joke? Daily mail say it’s Hamilton
Well Ham is under investigation so who knows
He’s assuming Ham will be punished I reckon.
Ah thanks I thought vettel was second. I would be happy if it was a ferrari front row tomorrow
No joke. Hamilton will get at least a 3 place drop for that !
Could kimi win tomorrow? That would probably put a smile on my face for a week
No Ferrari won’t allow kimi to win. Another easy one for Vettel
Good luck leaving the circuit stewards. If you drop HAM!
There not soccer hooligans
It shouldn’t be that way… and I don’t think it will be. If Lewis was wrong, he was wrong.
Completely agree
A midfield racer would have got a penalty. Good job Kimi.
Eh, what was Vettel whining about there? Again.
Outlap timing by his team perhaps?
yeah, maybe that’s it this time.
My pole time prediction went wrong by just 0.050 seconds, dammit!
Thank you all for a lovely and somewhat informing evening. It was a pleasure to see many of you again after so many years. Cheers, Alex Bkk
Lewis walking away from Seb interview….
Boos from Silverstone crowd. Bunch of Hooligans.
For Vettel
I thought they cheer for him in London
You saying Vettel is a hooligan?..
No mention of RoGro incident at all by BBC :-)
Just came up on the live text
At SkySports they are all over it
Anyone have full results?
Thank you all for a lovely and somewhat informing evening. It was a pleasure to see many of you again after so many years. Cheers, Alex Bkk
My apologies is my post end up in the wrong place, but the internet speed I have to work with at the moment is slower and less dependable than a Minardi.
On a different note, what about the f2 race?
Just seen the RoGro replay again on Sky; that’s never a penalty.
Given that Romain improved on his next lap and stewards are generally not so punishing these days, my guess is 2 penalty points + 5 second penalty to be served on 1st pit stop (at the worst)
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Mark my words! Ricciardo will win this race from P19 on the grid. I know that’s a very brave/risky prediction, but you never know what might happen.
Based on the word “you never know what will happen in a race”, I would like nominate pascal wehrlein to win Silversone GP 2017. So sauber probably can maintain existence by better prize money😂😂
Wow, That’s an even bolder prediction than mine, LOL.
Haha…pre race jokes mate. But whi knows? 😂😂
Good morning everyone, how’s the weather at silverstone?
There could be light rain shower.
Another ALO stunner? 😂😂😂
If it rains then yes, it’s possible (a stunner from Alonso).
Only if his engine… hahahaha
hello everybody from Malaysia
Same. Astro 832 bro? 😂😂😂
online feed bro, hate astro coverage
Hello everyone and welcome to F1 Fanatic Live for the British Grand Prix which will get underway in half an hour.
Conditions are dry at Silverstone ahead of the race but there is a risk a shower may hit the track.
Is it predicted before or after the start?
At the moment no rain is predicted.
Hi from somewhere in Thailand…
Hi from somewhere in the USA
Hi, from a peninsular+island country Malaysi. Sad to say this year is my last year to see F1 at home soil😥😥😥
hi from estonia
What’s wrong with brundle? Not the first time he’s sick. Hope nothing serious
Wonder who will be doing the commentary..
For Martin to miss the BGP, as well as his 20th anniversary, I’m quite concerned to say the least :(
Aww I hope he’s ok
Rosberg standing next to Chase Carey during the national anthem, LOL.
Anyone find Silverstone to be difficult to get into rhythm in a racing game (eg project cars , f1 game series)?
No, I don’t.
How about Silverstone compared to spa and red bull ring?
I find the Red Bull ring really tough to get a rhythm. Driving it in rFactor 2 and Automobilista anyway. Silverstone I have no probs at all, same with Spa.
One problem for Silverstone for me is that the old main straight always confuses me when I am on a lap. I lose situational awareness as I am puzzled why there are 2 start/finish points on a single lap.
Its challenging, love long circuits
Somehow I can memorise the spa circuit and nordschiflle but not Silverstone.
Hiii Alll! Enjoy the race!
Hi Lak.
You too; i will miss the start, still underway.
We’ll keep you posted on here :)
So how is this going to start? At the first corner, what’s it gonna be?
Maldonado attack!
Ah! Maxvanaldo!
Bottas is in a prime position to do one of his torpedoes.
Kimi 2
Hi everybody
Hi Oletros!
Bring on
Problems already for Palmer. He’s out before the start!
Palmers luck!! So bad.
Not yet a race. Lol palmer. Bad luck
F1 cars are too large in my opinion. ..
Would smaller cars facilitate overtaking? Assume same aerodynamics.
Might help slightly if they were narrower but we’ve only just gone wider
Poor Palmer
Our nerves…
Why can drivers never find a safe place to pull off ?
That’s harsh for Palmer. He’s not having a great season but at least half of that is due to the car.
The reason Palmer still racing because most of the problem was Renault…
And $$$
Max into P3, Ham gets away
Oh Sainz is out
It seems like the “torpedo” is the cause again
SC deployed!
Räikkönen was quick at the start and then really slow. Wonder what his problem was?
It wasnt any problem he just had a good start then back to normal.
Good job Dani and Congrat on the toro Rosso resign for 2018
New Toro Rosso lineup in 2018.
That was a great re-pass by Verstappen.
Gutsy
Like LAK says: Gutsy and good of both men (Vettel as well) to fight firm and fair.
Message to Franz Tost: get rid of Torpedo Daniil for 2018, otherwise the driver relationship will explode in 2018.
It’s already on his todo list after he took out Verstappen last race:-)
Interesting move by Sauber to tick the ‘mandatory pit stop’ box during the Safety Car period. Soft to the end for Wehrlein?
Wasn’t he the one hit by the spinning TR?
It looked like a white car but who knows, could be blue and white.
Think it was Kevin, who was hit
Haha they warned Kimi about Ham’s restarts
As Coulthard was saying on Channel 4, I think that Sainz Kvyat incident was a high speed racing incident when you look at it in full
It no doubt was but it wasnt the smoothest way to overtake your teammate.
Ricciardo off and back to last on exit of luffield. Not sure who was on his inside. Over gravel.
That was so clumsy from Ricciardo
Not typical of riccardio to make that sort of mistake.
Bottas up to 6th
Up to 5th after passing Hulkenberg
Ridiculous DRS speed advantage
ALO has gained 7 spots. I guess 3 or 4 are due to incidents.
bottas is flying, tyres working good
bottas coming up to vettel, should be juicy this..
Verstappen doing bottas a favor too
Well this is looking tasty. The early Safety Car means there’s no gap for the front runners to drop into so they’ll be stuck out for a bit. Bottas is edging towards Vettel who’s stuck behind Verstappen…
And Wehrlein has done his mandatory tyre change.
Another penalty for Kvyat, he must have quite a few points now.
Clearly the stewards didn’t agree Kvyat Sainz was a racing incident.
The stweeds that double standards for championship contenders.
I agree they have double standards. For example Hamilton absolutely cheated on the start a couple years ago but he was in contention and the stewards literally said they didn’t want a silly mistake like that to take him out of the championship. So yeah.. :P
Perhaps the stewards are consistent in that regard (not a compliment or inut just neutral)
I do believe that is true.
And again a drive through penalty for Kvyat for “rejoining the track unsafely”.
i think the Torpedo needs to be put in a museum already..
Ricciardo all over Alonso’s tail
On Sky News Paddy Lowe says they’re not expecting rain at the moment.
To me, it looked like when Kvyat started to overtake Sainz, Sainz effectively left him little choise but to drive onto the grass. And at the speed he was going, surely you have to try and rejoin as quick as possible. Although I agree what he did was dangerous. But I still think Sainz was partly responsible for him going on the grass in the first place. I’d have called it a raceing incident but it’s up the them.
Anyone believe the rumour that Sainz with take over Palmers seat at the next race?
Ric passes Alo
A shame Räikkönen is behind Hamilton.. Vettel might put more pressure on the Mercedes.
Well, he should pass Max first.
Beat me to it.
Yeah, Räikkönen should be in front! ;)
Woah go Max!
Lovely driving!
From who
I remember when people cried holding their hats that Vettel couldn’t race wheel to wheel.
Has KYV served his drive through yet?
Yes he has
Awesome battle between VET and VER!
Bottas is right behind vet because of this
Great fight, but Vettel is right on the edge pushing max off while max was in front.
And still Vettel felt the need to angrily wave at Max for repaying the favour :-)
Max was in front so it’s not the same
Vettel shouldn’t have done what he did, but if Verstappen complained, he most certainly should not have done the same thing effectively on Vettel
Shouldn’t have done what? Exactly the same thing Hamilton did against Rosberg for a few years? And everyone said who cares, that’s racing?
VET made a couple of mistakes there and here comes Bottas
How can Ham be so much quicker than Bot? Are they running different specs?
Hamilton is on the SSofts, Bottas on the Soft tyres. That will make a difference. And by now Bottas is in Vettels wake too.
Bottas behind Vettel is in favour of Verstappen, who has nothing to lose. It’s either a safe and boring 5th, or fighting for 3rd/4th with risks.
Kvyat setting a new record for most bleeps in a radio message…
Haha :D
Haha, awesome comment!
Do you recall who made it through unbleeped last week?
Raikkonen seems to be closing in slightly to Hamilton. Would be nice to see him win a race, although I think Hamilton is just saving his tyres currently.
Does anyone what the pit stop window is expected to be?
When they have a gap. If Hamilton doesn’t yet feel safe with his gap, I’d say it’ll be a little while.
That, or rain.
Here they go at it again… Max and Vet, Max does just enough…
Seb is whining again…what’s new?
Just imagine how exciting Austria (and the races before that) could have been with Verstappen still in the race
Kimi saying it’s raining lightly, this could be interesting
Slight rain/drops with Vettel just stopped? Could be risky.
Vet pits hoping for an undercut
Won’t be good if it rains
Man this is boring as hell. Mercs 0.5s faster than Ferrari. And Ferrari 0.3s faster than RBR. Top teams never overtake unless you are Mercedes and have super quali mode.
What have you been watching today?
Stop watching the Monaco replay and watch the British GP live. ;-)
Maybe you want to find yourself a different sport to watch? The only thing I ever see you comment on is how bad, boring, tedious etc the races are. In contrast, I see a tense race with Verstappen holding off Vettel, Ricciardo storming up the field, Bottas making headway and Hamilton keeping the advantage up front.
+1
If Raikkonen takes the chequered flag ahead of Vettel it’ll be the first time he’s done that for 16 races.
Will be interesting to see what they do this time. With Verstappen jumping past Vettel earlier, they couldn’t do the pincher movement on Hamilton.
Max responds into the pits now
DRS is too effective again
No it isn’t, just look at Verstappen/Vettel.
Yes, see Vettel overtake Hulk.
Ahhh slow pit stop! Vettel is ahead!
Think he’d’ve been behind even with a clean stop. Vettel was very quick.
That’s true Keith. It was about 0.5sec too slow.
Yeah, another slow RBR pit stop. Ridiculous that Merc, Fer and Will can do 2.0-2.2 pit stops without any fault and RBR can’t.
Since Vettel was about 3 seconds faster than any lap he had done before the stop, I think Vettel already did it on track anyway.
Thats just not true. Watch some more pitstops from those teams.
Williams just made an 4sec pitstop what do you say about that? Only RB fail ok…….
And again redbull gives max a bad pitstop. Bye bye fight with Vettel
Was going to say what keith did. I don’t think the slow stop made the difference
I think you’re right
Yes overtake in pits. Again my point. Top teams never overtake unless you are Mercedes and have super quali mode. Or 2sec faster than car ahead.
You can watch the Tour de France. The “lead” position changes every few hundred meters and I believe you can find a live stream.
Stop whining. It’s just because Verstappen was extremely focused on blocking Vettel.
Will bottas come out ahead of Vettel if he pits
Bad call of RBR; they are not known for quick pit stops; should have left Max out
They also have to consider staying ahead of Bottas.
Staying out and losing 1+ sec each lap?
Agreed. The increasing drops of rain at Luffield may make him regret it.
Doesn’t matter. RBR can’t match the Ferrari race pace, somewhere between 0.5 and 1.0 sec slower. This was the only way to TRY and keep position.
Hulk made good choice with Renault. FI does not have resources to win anything. Renault will only improve.
Any of sign of rain yet? Hoping so!
Bottas will be coming up on Kimi before Ferrari stop again?
Hamilton has great pace but so does Bottas – fastest lap now!
Indeed, both Mercs really flying now
In other words, the Mercedes has a great, dominating pace around here. ;)
RAI pits
Now wel’ll see how fast Ferrari get Seb in front of him.
Vettel wants Kimi to stay another year at Ferrari…? Is that a contract requirement?
So Kimi cannot continuously match Hamilton’s pace. Vettel is flying without Verstappen in front (0.5 sec faster) and Bottas is making up ground towards Raikkonen. It seems the only battle for the rest of the race is Vettel vs. Bottas and later on maybe both vs. Raikkonen.
Ham boxing
Does anyone think the fire in Vettel’s rear wheel affected his start a little? I think he put a little too much heat in them in the 2nd fomation lap.
Max has (almost) always been a bullet on the start, I don’t think any mechanical issue would have changed anything.
I dont think its a problem, something stuck in the airduct that make a little smokeshow.
Not great strategy by Mercedes there, unnecessarily costing Bottas time.
That’s what I thought as well. Bottas should be let in front and control the pace. If Hamilton can then easily match him, let them swap.
That was why they told Lewis to let Bottas past. He didn’t want to have any of it (I’ll pull him along)
Love seeing Räi speeding along :)
What strikes me these days is we almost never see any risky strategies. Strategies are so darn safe, always covering the other guy. That’s too bad.
Whatabout Pascal pitting on lap 3?
Ah, didn’t notice that. But true, I should’ve said I meant everything from Mercedes to Renault/McLaren.
Without refueling there are not really much options
Heard they said that VET requesting RAI to stay another year if he’s to sign contract extension. How can that play out with Arrivabene?
Kimi complaining about something :/
Could it be that Vettel doesn’t want Alonso as his team mate?
Perhaps too😂
Shouldn’t Bottas pit soon
maybe waiting to see whether there will be any rain?
Easy: as long as Bottas is not (significantly) slower than Rai, Vet or Ver, he can stay where he is.
Kimi complaining about something :/
Something in the cockpit. As long as he can stay focused, he’ll be fine even if it bruises.
Depends David, if it’s something like Hamilton in Baku, it could potentially be dangerous or causing discomfort during steering for example. This could play into the hands of Vettel and Verstappen.
Not if it interferes with the breaking pedal
BOT will come out ahead of Vettel after pit
Lets see
or not
BOT pits
Bottas into the pits
Stupid pit timing!
Yup unfortunately :-/
Curious how the computers decided on the pit timing for bott as.
RIC pits
By the way @keithcollantine I think there’s an issue with the times displayed. When the last comment by LAK was posted at 13:43 it actually was 13:58. I thought I missed 15 mins of comments, so refreshed, but then I saw LAK’s comment coming in. ;-)
I asked kieth about this at the start of the year I think. He said it was on the to do list but it isn’t the most critical thing. It does confuse me sometimes though!
I see Ben. Indeed, not critical, but confusing at least. Must be on the server/hosting side, have seen this somewhere else where they commented about a mismatch in time between the different systems.
ALO out again? Pfftt
Oh Alonso has to retire, what a shame…
Perez again, it very hard to lap him
It was a genuine race pass thouhg. Should be hard
It Dan fighting fir position with perez
It was Pascal that was lapped not Perez.
BOT purple= FLAP
bottas still has enough laps to take vettel..
Ricciardo doing a great race
BOT gained 2 secs in 2 laps
Those moments your divided between the individual result and the championship: I hope Bottas can get to a podium, but I also want Vettel to keep his advantage in the WDC as much as possible. :/
If Mercedes manages to stay faultless, it will be only a matter of time that Hamilton takes a dominant lead in the championship. The Mercedes is the faster car on average.
Without any issues, Hamilton would be leading right now already.
@xenomorph91 That’s not true. The faster car on average this season is Vettel, seeing the WDC standings. Mercedes still have to prove they can overtake Vettel in the WDC and keep it that way.
This is a yawn right now..
Yep hope it raining, that would spice the race…
Ricciardo one car away from his team mate from P20! Great drive
Hes also more than half a lap behind, speaks more of the other cars than Ric.
Performance difference is big though between Redbull and lower teams. Ricciardo hasn’t been that great, he has made errors.
Ham:” These tyres are blistered”
Carlos Sainz, interviewed by Dutch tv says the incident with Kvyat was “clear as everyone could see” but he also says “I think it’s best not to comment in public and keep this internal with the team”. Someone is trying to get the team on his side…
Kvyat is already history in F1. After lots of errors and taking out VER last weekend, I will be surpriced if he has a seat come next year.
The Hulk has a very strong race pace, sincerely hope he can keep Ricciardo at bay.
This race director is terrible. We have been watching the force indias following eachother for half of the telecast.
He is following Kevin:-)
It’s Perez’s tyres that are blistered, not Hamilton’s.
Well, I don’t think Massa is doing a bad job here, but the fact the Williams is only slightly faster than a bad McLaren must mean that Williams is no longer a decent team. Such a shame. Hopefully it will be good at some tracks.
Serious question. Would you prefer f1 to be a spec series ?
Personally I find it impossible to find a good balance between driver ability and technology/ money.
That can be said of McLaren and Sauber as well.
Under two seconds Bottas x Vettel, hope we get a fight in the end
Max can get a free stop.
i just would like to know how can a team as legendry as it is accept that their cars are backmarkers for a season long, how can someon sleep when they are 2.8 sec offf the pace…what is honda still doing as an engine supplier here?
Vettel and Bottas getting good now!
Bottas is really going for Vettel
Vettel has really old tyres
Must have big flat spot too now
VET being his nasty self again.
Noah close!
Time for Vettel to defend, this will be good.
c’mon bottas..
Both Vettel and Bottas haven’t got the best of tyres it seems.
Yes Bottas has done it!
Too easy in the end
VET’s tires are toast
Luckily the oil burning is prohibited from 2018 onwards, because even Merc doesn’t have so much speed advantage in regular race mode. Bloody hell….
It was only Ferrari who had to stop doing the fuel burning since Baku. That means Mercedes were already not doing it anymore.
It’s sad to see the huge difference in speed between the top 2 cars
Quali mode + oil burning mode = 0.5-0.7 sec faster per lap. They can do this for 2/3 laps a race.
Ferrari was the team burning oil… When they stopped that they lost a lot.
yes bottas..
love it: Team radio ‘Well done(Bottas)’ Bottas: ‘Minimal talking’
Championship officially over.Ferrari can’t develop car as season goes on.
Mercedes strategy worked really well. Bottas guaranteeing that contract.
Lol, what an exciting pass. DRS forever!
Sarcasm detector is functioning ok
Well done Nico
Could we see Vettel drop down even behind Verstappen then if his tyres now give up?
In your dreams ;)
That’s what Red Bull are thinking of
Verstappen complained about his front tires too
BOT FLAP
Not the same as a Butflap is it ;)
Sadly not
I don’t understand when backmarkers don’t move out of the way
Verstappen 1.4 sec faster a lap than Vettel. If Vettel’s tryes are really destroyed, he might catch him at the end.
would be a nice end to otherwise boring race.
he needs 3sec per lap and im sure Vet got enough to defend in the last corner.
Another BOT FLAP
Haha bottas 1.5 seconds behind not 10.5 for kimi’s pitboard
No, Bottas is 5.5 behind. 10.5 was Hamilton to Kimi.
HAM FLAP for the grand chelam as it stands
Here’s hoping for some final laps action. It’s boring since the pit stops, very very boring. Have not commented this much since a while. ;-)
bottas takes rai..wow
1.30.6 for Hamilton
Kimi’s left front is GONE.
aww, Kimi.
RAI?
Tyre gave up on him
Oh no Kimi has problems! Vettel will get that podium place after all I guess…
Kimi’s luck!
indeed
Lucky Seb podium
The gods really like Vettel
Do they?
Hahahaha
Lol huge jinxing there.
ah tyre blown..
Raikkonen will get back past Vettel I think
Max is also in for a bad tyre.
I think the tam called him in to be on the safe side.
With Vettel’s tyre going off now, I think that was a prudent move from them to call Max in
Wow, vettel, tyres gone?
Or not
Debris?
What is happening?
Max lost a podium at with that pit stop
Oh dear!! Vettel has a puncture Kimi regains P3! This is crazy!
Vettel ALSO. I’m gonna go crazy.
Heartbreak! Why puncture one after another?
Too muhc pressure on the tyres on this extremely high speed corner track.
Looks like Red Bull reacted best after Kimi’s tyre gave way by calling Max in. Ferrari should have stopped Vettel too.
Yes but Ferrari couldnt have known what RB did before they passed the pitentry
Amazing!
This impacts the championship bigly. As we say here.
So unlucky for both Ferrari drivers
And Verstappen.
How is it unlucky for Verstappen? He got one position for free.
If both Ferrari drivers had this issue, it could very likely have been the same for Verstappen. If they didn’t do it and it happened, you would probably wonder why they didn’t do the same with him. To me, for safety reasons, it was the right decision.
Well, sort of justice for Kimi.. he got his podium back
:(
Wow crazy end for ferrari
Omg redbull denies max a P3. He will be furious
No, Max was already complaining for 10+ laps about his fronts.
He told he could’ve stayed out
Since Vettel got in the dirt right after Max questioned them, I think he will see that it was the right call in the end.
woohoo love it
Who was it that called Vettel lucky again?
Hamilton-maniacs.
F1 is crazy this year
finally the vettel luck breaks
Luck? Give me a break…
have a kit kat then..woohoo lovin it
Well if you wish bad luck to opponent,who knows…karma is a Bi… it could strike Hamilton tommorow.
What luck?
Kimi gets a well deserved podium
This is crazy!
Max just missed FLAP at the end
Hulk P6
Just as many pointed out, 20 points really was not a big gap at all. Down to 1 now.
Exactly ! And people were saying the Championship is over ! What a race
Well people are saying its over because Merc is dominating now so how does this change anything?
Of course it wasnt. Räikkönen’s bigggest points deficit in 2007 was 27 points to P1 – it equals 67.5 points today.
What an ending !!!
Wow! What a result for Lewis and Mercedes! I guess this makes up for not being in London! Haha so happy for the fans!!
Feel a little sorry for Ferrari. Happy for Kimi though.
Sorry for Ferrari to see it go wrong less than 5 rounds from the end, great for Kimi to still salvage the 3rd by quickly going in.
In the end, it just shows there IS a risk to undercutting.
good point
Dammit punctures! LOL.
The risk of the undercut finally bites !
Good point
Very sharp point!
I see what you did there, Rick!
RAI also suffered that :/
I think teams might not try the undercut alot now after today
Matching Clark, having a race from pole, leading all laps and setting the FLAP … On top of that, Vettel only gets home in 7th. I think Hamilton can be very happy with this weekend
😯😯😯
Amazing how quick the race was, just over 1 hour 20 mins with a couple laps behind the safety car
Although there was one less lap
Yeah with these speeds the nr of laps might be increased
They’d need more fuel and a car redesign to hold it. Or fuel saving which would make things rather dull.
Imagine HAM and BOT also having a puncture and the Ferraris suddenly fighting for the win hah!
Hamilton saved his tyres for quite a while after his pitstop, I think. And Bottas was on different, newer tyres altogether
+1 Ferrari were not just unlucky. They risked punctures with their tyre strategy.
yeah, especially with Vettel. And then they made it worse by not calling Vettel in as soon as Kimi had a problem
vettel, karma?
This is a popular podium!
was this also Hamilton’s 68th win? Or just the 67th to be sole second behind Schumacher
“First time I’ve been up here.”
Aww, I forgot how crap Jenson’s luck around Silverstone was :P
Interesting, so Mercedes did see a tiny start of an issue forming on their cars too. I think Ocon had a bit of that developing a bit earlier in the race too. Looks like it will be something Pirelli should have a look at.
Must be tough to make a tyre to get through Becket’s/Maggot’s at those speeds and lateral loads.
Really, was that on CH4? On RTL.DE Lauda said strategy and tyre wear all worked perfectly, but, he’s not the expert on tyres of course, nor does he always go for the full truth, I don’t think.
yeah, CH4 had Toto there answering that point. Ocon I saw in the race footage
On EJ saying RIC, VER probably the most exciting combination – after what Bottas shown in the last few races, I found myself thinking the HAM,BOT combination is also really quite good. But, that first lap by VER, wow. I didn’t see it live, but just now saw repeats, that was something.
I had my self thinking that over too with EJs remark. But I think that really Max is more exciting to see, although Bottas has shown that he is quite the worth Rosberg replacement. Now only 23 points of Vettel too.
Yep, Bottas is a silent killer, more than a thrilling experience. Still, I imagine Mercedes is plenty satisfied with their two drivers today. And Kimi also showed Ferrari that he’s valuable to them, I guess!
This year, I think Kimi has been more or less perfect for Ferrari. I am sure that had Max not been in between, they would have happily made Kimi have “a problem with hte floor” or something to wait and let Seb pass him before then being passed by Max too and getting critisized for losing motivation and being a few spots back.
Is EJ as bad as Bernie was with sexism? That remark towards Susie and having a household to run… sigh.
Yeah, becoming fossilised for sure.
Thanks everyone for joining in this weekend! The Six Hours of the Nurburgring is stil going on for those who enjoy a bit of WEC action:
Hello
Welcome F1 Fanatics it’s time to get another race weekend started! First practice for the Austrian Grand Prix is go.
Two test drivers are running today: Sergey Sirotkin in Nico Hulkenberg’s Renault and Alfonso Celis in Sergio Perez’s Force India.
Interesting to see Sainz’s acceleration test at the exit of turn one – he braked at the exit of the corner, pointed the car straight and gunned it.
All quiet on the track now a quarter of an hour in. Track temperature is only 36C, it will be hotter for the competitive sessions. Tomorrow could be a bit of a scorcher.
Verstappen is flying – just 0.5 seconds behind Hamilton fastest time but Max on older Softs and Hamilton on Ultra Softs
Impressive to see Vandoorne up in eighth. This was one of McLaren’s best races last year – Button ran second at the start, hard to imagine that happening again on Sunday.
All quiet on the track again. First glance at the timing screens indicates this could be a tough weekend for Sauber.
Seems a little subdued today – maybe its just me of course.
Grosjean radios during a practice session and for once it’s not about his brakes.
It seems Haas have a ‘puncture mode’ the drivers can select when they’ve got a flat.
Vandoorne in 5th – wow
Which of the torro Rossi was that spin just in front of us?
Kvyat I think
Kvyat I think it was.
Thanks keith
Adrian was 2 minutes earlier.. no thanks for him ;)
Lap time record will be smashed this weekend
I think it has been already – from Keith’s Austrian GP Track Preview, the fastest lap in any session was 1’06.228
how many laps do we think drivers will do today in this practice
Does anyone know what was the Mclaren’s top speed? Has the spec 3 engine improved the car?
Vandoorne up in sixth is certainly impressive. Not seen their speed trap figure yet.
Thanks for joining in guys. Here’s the first practice results, the breakdown of times by tyre type will be up here shortly too:
https://www.racefans.net/2017/07/07/hamilton-breaks-track-record-hardest-tyres-first-session/
Hello All :)
Hello everyone and welcome back for the second practice session for the Austrian Grand Prix.
Hamilton set a scorching pace in the first session but Red Bull looked capable of keeping up with him. There were a fair few mistakes as well from several drivers.
The McLarens also showed improvement.. I wonder will it continue or not.
High chance of rain for this session apparently, let’s see if teams bring their qualifying runs forward.
Apologies for the lack of a breakdown of the drivers’ fastest times by tyres, by the way, this is because the FIA still hasn’t issued the times in full from the first session yet.
Bottas and Lewis exchanging new track records
Why Perez is still in pits?
Never mind
Raikkonen complaining about photographers as he did in Canada. Think these ones are in the pits though.
He was standing a bit too close and had to move back, I can imagine it’s very distracting for the drivers.
After a Long time, Is this fastest lap times so far in Austria or is there any faster times than what we currently have?
Ricciardo on US or SS?
US from what i saw
Thank you. Live Timing did say so. But Autosport quoted differently. No coverage here. Wimbledon everywhere :(
Bottas faster by 0.001 lol 105.699 on US
He was 0.2 up on s2 though he messed up in final 2 corners but still not enough difference , Guess they are trying to improve a bit more
Oh Bottas in the run off area, back on track now, wow spun just in time to avoid the barriers well done lol.
So many driver mistakes compared to normal FP… Is there any reasonable explanation to that?
Vettel fastest atm 105.630, Lewis just beat him by 105.483
Looks like there isn’t any big difference between US and SS.
Verstappen is finally out
Nice and close at the front and it looks like there’s finally some progress at McLaren.
I dont think the progress is there or atleast as it look to be noticeable yet i feel
They are 1.4sec off might dip that into less than a sec off in Here which is shortest lap time of all year. I hope and pray they made progress though
Hamilton gaining massively in S1. Bottas needs to copy that and Ferrari need to figure it out.
Massively ? No
They are faster in S1 and most of the Merc time is coming from S1 over vettel
Hamilton did a 16.601 on SS but didn’t improved on that on US. Bottas though did 16.562 on US which is fastest S1 so far. Vettel also did a 16.729 on SS but couldn’t improve that on US.
They are much closer in S2/S3.
I was looking at Vettel in S1 on US. It was a 16.8. Didn’t know he did 16.7 on SS. Still that’s a tenth slower and that is the difference here basically.
Yes, but so is lewis though. All in all there isn’t big difference between US and SS. I guess its between 2-4 tenths unless Tomorrow proves other wise
Hoping this is Ferrari’s low power PU and they have something in hand for Q and Race.
I don’t know , Vettel is running his Pu #1 but then again Merc are also on Low power mode. so they have more to unleash. I love this track hoping Qualification will be exciting
PU#1? What did he use in Baku then? I thought that was the old PU? Or it is still surviving? Touchwood!
Im not too sure about it as i read in twitter feed as it said Vettel will have his Pu#2 which had issues on Baku Saturday will be fitted tomorrow. As Vettel is using only 2 Pu’s that means he was Running Pu#1 or better ICE #1 which was forced to use in Baku Q and R
Cheers! Can’t wait for the PU upgrade in Silverstone. Hopefully it performs as expected. Need some trump card to gain an advantage here.
Sky F1: Alonso has damaged his floor, and supposedly still waiting to change it..
updates? trying to watch
Hamilton heads for the pits after reporting a problem on his Mercedes. The team had told him to select strat mode six so it seems it may be power unit related.
Guess the rumble strips will be forced to take off considering how sainz did that
SS vs US Comparison
HAM: 1:05.731 vs. 1:05.483 (0.248) – BOT: 1:05.700 vs. 1:05.699 (0.001) – VET: 1:05.852 vs. 1:05.630 (0.222) Bottas was up on S2 by 2 tenths and had a bad S3 due to running off in the penultimate corner.
Data Provided by F1AT
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https://www.racefans.net/2017/07/07/2017-austrian-grand-prix-second-practice-result-fp2/
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Hello everyone and welcome to F1 Fanatic Live for final practice ahead of the Austrian Grand Prix.
All drivers have nine sets of tyres left. The Mercedes, Ferrari, Haas and Sauber drivers have six new sets of ultra-softs, the rest have seven. All the drivers have one set of softs remaining and only Haas have put any running on those tyres.
Alonso has to revert back to the old-spec Honda engine. Vandoorne really needs to end his losing streak in qualifying today then!
Sainz still in the car. Trying an MGU-K restart?
Tried, failed, the marshals are pushing him away.
what a brilliant start to P3, considering all the talk around him this week)))
Ugh, the sky coverage is painful. They just are not talking about what is on the screen! Just talking about penlties, Baku and reading out comments. It is hard to believe Crofty is actually the commentater for what is on the screen. He just isn’t following what is happening. I’ve sometimes listened to it on BBC radio 5 live sports extra and watched Sky on mute and they talk much more related stuff to what is on the screen. Sky really should be better than this.Channel 4 are far better. Ben Edwards and Karun Chandhok on Channel 4 sound far more interested in what is happening and keep on topic!
I bought nowtv for this month’s f1 races on sky. But it is painful. All about the incident. Every segment starts with that. We have a great season. Don’t let one stupid incident overshadow it. Although I am certain Vettel targeted Hamilton’s headrest pins 😂
Let’s get back to racing 🏁🏎
Wonder if we might see lap times dip into the 63s today…
1 05 384 from Vettel, not too bad
and he pits immediately. I wonder what was the fuel load
Anyone knows what happened to Alonso regarding his engine?
Found something odd and reverted to previous spec. It is a known excuse for Honda now. No change in the record.
so no Spec3 engine for 2 consecutive races, correct?
They could get it back for Silverstone. It is a power circuit and considering all the boasting that McLaren are doing about their chassis, makes sense to be in best possible shape.
it is still on Vandoorne’s car though, no?
Yup. That is correct.
SAI back on track
HAM 1st, 0.023 ahead of VET
Well this would bode well for a close fight for pole between the championship contenders if Hamilton didn’t have a penalty.
Can somebody tell what the standings are right now, i’m ar work so i can’t see it :(
VET 2 sec slower in the last sector. the first two were purple. What happened there?
Caught Hamilton, waved at him and passed him.
He complained about traffic.
without hitting hum? oh my…
Once was the limit I suppose :)
S1,2,3 Purple for Vettel. Top by 2 tenths.
Wondering if there’s different set-ups on the Ferraris. Raikkonen has been consistently half a second off Vettel, which is a fair margin at a track this short, and he’s 4kph down in the speed trap too.
Brake faillure. That could have been a lot worse had he crashed there.
I don’t know if it was a brake failure. More like a brake problem. They all locked up and did slow him down so they hadn’t totally failed.
Only the the right one failed. He still had enough braking power in the left one, hence the massive lock up.
Yes, sorry, now i see a replay, I see one did fail by the look of it.
For whom?
so, VET for pole? )) time to fill out the predictions sheet. See u)
Sorry thought FP3 starts now what happened so far
What happened to Lewis Car is it BBW failure or normal overheating issues
His front right brake appeard to fail with a load of dust. He then locked up and the front left managed to do the rest of the slowing down. You could see that the front right was just freely turning so there clearly was an issue. He then went back to the pits in 1st gear as he didn’t want to risk going fast.
Yup just caught up with the replay . Guess their asymmetric breaking made issues as the right front brake temp is used alot to warm up the right front tire. It might have got too much overheat caused the brake disc to blow up
What exactly happened to Williams and Force India guess their cars just doesn’t suit to Austira
So, who for pole? I think it is a fight between Verstappen, Vettel, Bottas for P1. Personally, I am gunning for Max to get his first pole position.
Hello everyone and welcome to F1 Fanatic Live for the qualifying session for the Austrian Grand Prix.
Lewis Hamilton’s penalty has taken some of the intrigue out of the battle for pole position but we should still have at least three drivers in the hunt. And perhaps one of the Red Bulls will pull out something special…
I predict the pole time (should the upcoming qualifying be dry) will be in the high 1m03s or in the low 1m04s.
Can you tell me what happened with Force India&Williams’ car?
Vettel would be likely on pole today due to Hamilton’s penalty.
Will Alonso use spec3 engine or, the old one he used on FP3
Hi guys. When/if do you think Kubica will return?
If he does I suspect it won’t be until 2018.
Bumpy ride for Grosjean.
Horrible football-style animated billboards now being used by FOM, I see.
Looks like Magnussen ran the kerbs too hard.
Williams really not looking good here. One car in the drop zone and the other on the cusp.
Why does ferrari keep using the softer tyre in QP1?
Harder I mean
Oh Kimi :( 0,5s difference here doesn’t look too good
Perez coming in for a helmet change, that’s novel!
Time out of sync on some server somewhere, Keith? (Check the comment timestamps.)
they could always use an old spec honda server on those to rectify the issue
They have been like this all year I think. I think Keith will sort it out sometime but it doesn’t matter that much. they seem to be incorrect by about 14 minutes.
RAI P11..
SS while all the others have run with US, except his team mate and BOT… still unacceptable
P2
Th sound of cars on the kerbs sound like a piston engined plane.
VET and BOT haven’t used USoft in Q1…could help tomorrow.
Dear me Williams. That upgrade package really didn’t work.
easy to say now, but they should have gone back to previous package after friday.
Vandoorne beaten by Alonso with a slower engine?
What do you expect, It’s Fernando…
And that old one seems broken as well hearing Alonso’s latest comments.
his engine smoked something :) on screen shown…
Duct tape. Duct tape to fix the cracked engine.
they could always go to their x1bxca version of their gazillion old stocks…
Wow. That will be interesting to have HAM start on SSoft
He has that 5 place penalty, so it’s good strategic move.
Word is that there’s not much wear difference from SS to US though.
both have to be used for the race, and ham using early and outpacing reds is good for ham… also us is faster so ham using later should give him the advantage given he keeps pacing with leaders…
Exactly. The lack of wear difference means both over- and undercut are in play for strategy.
Slightly OT, maybe its the acoustics of the location, but the cars sound particularly bloody awful here.
Slightly on topic maybe people should care about their ear drums, and not want them blown…
Earplugs = $5
@ I’m not talking about purely about volume.
very good time from BOT, it is looking like track record may be keep improving… anyone 1.03s?
Bottas not helping Hamilton. Vettel piling it on.
Predictions: I’m 0.030 off the pole time. I suspect it will get faster though.
Grosjean having an incomparably better weekend than he had two weeks ago.
Yet to use new tires as well.
BTW, thank you for fixing the LIVE link. The 502 Gateway errors are a thing of the past.
high 1.03.8XX? ham? or bot? looks like bot have it in the bag… better coming together for him
Amen to that Martin. (“McLaren and two Williams out in Q1”)
yellow
Grosjean having the last laugh on the pole fight.
So HAM P8
YES! Bottas! That’s how it’s done! Time to get back to WDC fight tomorrow!
i think they should ban renault and honda engines… causing al the drama in f1 and disturbing everyone around them…
This one was from a Ferrari.
If so, I don’t think Mercedes or Ferrari want to supply Red Bull the engine..
Instruction to Kimi; Swat any RB that comes your way from behind.
more like any mercedes…. test their brakes…
Bottas should slow to help Ham overtake cars tomorrow….just kidding
Bottas has learned a thing or two from Kimi regarding team radios…
Too bad Max couldn’t make a clean lap in q3
Well its anticlimactic but after how it was said about directive hurt Ferrari, it looks like there isn’t any change what so ever. usually Merc has 1-2 tenths leg on Ferrari when they unleash every thing. Which shows again here
Less than two tenths slower than my pole time prediction.
Boys…
Im really waiting for next week Qualification alot now. how much faster they could go considering they will have Super soft in there.
No handshake from Hamilton… Well that’s classy, not.
Yeah really, grow up guys. Move on.
Indeed.
grow up are serious? after he blew away hamilton s chance of a win in baku, u need to wake up man
a mistake from valsechi. not the time.
Yeah, they have to grow up first.
Cheers all. Hope the race will be more exciting tomorrow.
Cheers, all systems: Go!
Hello everyone and welcome to F1 Fanatic Live, we’re an hour and a half away from the start of round nine of the championship, the Austrian Grand Prix!
Here’s the grid for today’s race:
https://www.racefans.net/2017/07/08/2017-austrian-grand-prix-grid/
How’s the weather at red bull ring?
Moderate or heavy rain shower possible at around an hour before the race (a few minutes from now.
is it raining now?
not raining, but dark clouds
Max is truly a sensation. Just 2.5 years into his F1 career, he is making grandstands full outside of his home country! Not since Hamilton’s debut in 2007 have I seen such frenzy for any driver. Truly special talents both of them.
I would love to have a Hamilton-Max pairing at Ferrari if/when Vettel decides to hang his boots.
A Ferrari-Hamilton-Max is the most potent crowd pulling proposition that can be..
The support for Verstappen is truly impressive. Good news for the future of F1.
@keithcollantine
For once, that’s a hype I understand. I’ve rarely seen such a spectacular wet-weather driver (just google the last three words in quotation marks, the results speak for themselves), and he’s also shown some refreshingly aggressive moves. There’s no denying he’s a driver who stands out from the crowd, whether he’s reached the top tier yet, or not.
Wehrlein’s pit lane start confirmed after a turbo change:
“As the turbocharger is of a different specification from the one originally used in qualifying the competitor is required to start from the pit lane and should follow the procedures laid out in Article 36.2 of the FIA Formula One Sporting Regulations.”
Will both Mclaren’s last until the chequered flag today?
Don’t bet on it!
Invariably the thing in Formula One which attracts the most hype isn’t a driver or a team or a track – it’s the weather, particularly when there’s a slight chance of rain…
Hello from Austria, sitting at turn 4 :)
Hello! Got an umbrella?
Of course, it’s a must wether it’s sunny or raining (at the moment hot and sunny)
Big chance for Haas to get some serious points today with Grosjean up in sixth. He won’t worry about keeping Hamilton behind but will surely race the Force Indias hard.
Reports Marchionne has called Raikkonen a “laggard”. If Grosjean really wants that seat now’s his time to shine…
for Finnish TV Marchionne said Kimi is doing fine job, but he will talk with Kimi today.
Hello from a deserted bar in Ermones, Corfu. On holiday from the UK and had to find somewhere to watch the GP, haven’t missed one is 5 years… #LH44
Not the Tom Randle who was racing at the Hungaroring last weekend I take it?
Haha, no but I have heard of him! Maybe one day… 👍🏻
Ericsson is told there’s no rain visible on the radar.
It just isn’t looking dark enough for rain at the moment to me. I think it could well be the case that there won’t be any at all.
Guten tag!
Howdy!
Both Hamilton and Ricciardo asking how the track temperature compares to second practice on Friday. It’s 48C, which is 4C hotter…
What a mix of tyres in the second 10. All 3 dry types.
suprised WEH is on SS and not softs.
Hello all just in time
hey LAK
Oh no Verstappen again
Verstappen again
GRO in P4!
I agree with Vettel. Bottas did look to possibly jump the start a tiny bit.
I feel bad for the Dutch fans on the stand…
Think Kvyat will get in trouble for that. A bit of a repeat of Sochi last year.
Wow that was bad from Kvyat.
That a bye bye for kyvat toro Rosso 2018
He is secured by Acronis. And he is much faster than Sainz. And he is having most mechanical failures again this year, so pretty much Marko understands it.
My god Kvyat ruins the race for both Alonso and Verstappen…
And himself
Ver and Sai ruined their races by their own. If Sai wouldn’t sleep the start Kvyat wouldn’t go off to dirt, so would be able to break with clear tyres.
Seriously what brand of cream crackers do Haas make their T-wings out of?They’re always flapping around.
I thought movable aerodynamic devices weren’t allowed?
It’s a movable aerodynamic device
That shot from the frontalong Grojeans car was crazy!
Ham up to 5th after passing Perez and Grosjean
Did it say bottas reaction time was 0.2 secs? If so how can that be a jump start?
It’s not a jump start. They’re saying on Sky, you can’t “anticipate the start” but I don’t think you can prove that either way.
How can you NOT anticipate the start? Wait 5 minutes after the lights go out before everyone goes?
Uhm, how about by not starting until you see the lights go out?
Exactly. If he moved 0.2 secs after the lights went off I don’t see the problem
0.2 should be ok.
It looked like less than 0.2sec, 5-6 frames of the TV replay is equal to 0.2 sec, and it looked like fewer frames than that.
Yes. 0.001 secs should be OK per the regulations. Lucky, but OK. 0.2 secs is a normal reaction time.
If RAI can’t keep HAM behind him then RAI needs to be replaced.
His car is broken again.
now they are showing the reaction times, I think it will be really silly if they give Bottas any penalty.
By the way, why don’t we get to see a table of the reaction times of all drivers at the start? The data clearly exists so why not show us it? I’d love to see reaction time, 0-100 time, first 200m time etc
Yeah, that would be great!
kimi and lewis identical time the last lap
Fastest possible human reaction time is 0.15 – 0.2 sec
http://www.scifun.ed.ac.uk/pages/exhibits/ex-reaction-timer.html
only fastest people should be driving F1
Or those that can spend $80 million to get there
:-)
“If a sprinter moves within 0.1s of the pistol, this is considered to be a false start, as it is impossible for them to have reacted that fast.” Interesting article.
Update on Max’s start: there was an issue with the clutch already with the formation lap. At the real start the clutch was gone, so he got into anti stall. So again technical failure for Max.
Ham gaining on Kimi
Pace on softs only hope for Ferrari.
Magnussen has horrific looking groove on inside of both front tyres. Blistering, presumably.
On super softs.
RAI/HAM almost a pit stop behind BOT. 16+ secs already.
This looks like a 2 stop race now
Softs should still be good for a run to the end. Palmer going well on them.
So, KVY is still circulating despite having used his car as a bowling ball to knock down two pins (ALO, VER)?
How is the Ferrari so slow in S2 after blitzing it in Qualifying?
are they still concidering a penalty for Bottas’s start? I think that will just be too harsh. That was nothing like other jump starts that I can remember. Like Ericsson one time in 2015 and Maldonado in Spa 2012. They will have been huge advantages. Bottas barely did anything unusual, just a quicker reaction than others, which is a good thing!
BOT FLAP. Not quite as fun to type as when Jenson was racing…
kakakakaka
Vettel not really faster than Kimi at this point.
No pen for Bottas.
ofc no pen, he did a great start he has amazing reactions
What about some rain?
Stroll keeps on heavily locking up at T4.
Vettel must buy Kimi ice cream after the race. He’s keeping Lewis behind for so many laps.
Lol
Hugely unlucky weekend for MAG, he was very quick in practice.
MAG haas haad it.
he haas, haasn’t he?
34 laps on ultrasofts and going.
US for Ham? The leaders are struggling with it.
Ferrari will have to do a super stop for Kimi to get him out in from top Ham.
Ham pits before Kimi and is back out P5, didn’t lose any places.
LH undercut
First swearing faux pas by FOM this year?
What did MAG say?
Why did they put ultras on Hamilton?
he started with supersofts, so they must use something else.
only new set he got.
I thought they would go for the soft instead.
Used softs
Would used softs be better than new ultras?
Nope.
Ultra Softs for Hamilton is quite surprising. Two stops?
34 laps on full load. Can easily do 37 on decreasing fuel. New set as well.
Well.. he has to drive in dirty air – sliding more than others in free air. It’s a bit different. Let’s see if the traction is holding up enough over several laps to make a move.
He has been in dirty air of Kimi for too long. Will easily get Ric when he comes there. Speed difference with DRS huge.
dang..1.07 there..go lewis
Vettel and Ric pit, Vet P3, Ric P4.. The Finns still have to pit..
New SS for Vettel. He better hope it has the pace.
Looks like Perez blocked Bottas..
Ham not happy with his rear tyres
“Far too much front wing”, he says.
Yeah, expected him to be faster than this.
Rear blistering already for Hamilton.
I think used softs would have been better.
The leaders were lapping well. They did struggle compared to the SS of Hamilton. But with reduced fuel load, it should have helped theoretically.
Guess wasn’t so good to go for Ultra Soft. :P
He is going strong yet. It is a bit of try to trick the rivals I think. See his laps times.
All weekend long I’ve not been convinced by the weather reports claiming rain. But this could sure do with a late shower…
Bottas coming in
Fin vs. Fin upcoming?
Lol poor Kimi forced to stay out longer.
Like Bottas in Spain.
Bottas passes Kimi fairly easily.
ofc, kimi isn t the kimi of the mclaren days anymore
Well yeah but he also had much older tyres and Bottas had new ones. There wasn’t much he could have done there.
Something wrong with Vet? Ver poor S1, slow S2.
some lapped cars only
Thank you :) Relief!
The pit crews seem to be in slow motion for this race yet the pit times are so fast.
Vandoorne gets a drive thru penalty for ignoring blue flags. Sainz asked to box and retire.
i can fairly admit that kimi isn t the kimi of the mclaren days…. fairly easy pass from bottas
Didn’t have a chance really, particularly with DRS.
30+ lap tyres vs brand new ones. I agree with you but I think it’d have been easy pass if it was other way around as well.
right, can t argue with that
Who has the current fastest lap guys?
HAM 1.07
Thx
ham with a 1.07
Kimi coming strong.
Marchionne in the garage :(
Haha like the Renault Tweet. :)
:-)
VET 1:07.713 FLAP
Trading FLAPs, BOT and VET.
The cars over the kerbs sound like ww2 plane engines.
hahahaa
any chance bottas going under 1.07?
u can bet on it, he hasn t put a foot wrong this whole weekend, amazing drive by the young finn
I already have! That’s why I”m asking hahah
Too high a target. 1:07.7 is the FLAP now.
Kimi is eating the gap to HAM quite fast now
Wow – they’re still talking about possible rain at the end of the race.
We need a radar link
Kimi FLAP.
Kimi 1:07:680 FLAP
Looks like Hamilton’s car’s improving in the second half of his stint.
nice one kimi, 1.07.680
RAI makes too many mistakes
RIC matching HAM’s improved pace
Raikkonen seems especially sweary today. Perhaps he heard about Marchionne’s “laggard” comment before he got in the car.
I normally find something to enjoy in every Grand Prix… but this is pretty dull. A SC or some rain is needed for a bit of last lap spice and save the day!
Austria gp always been dull since the return of 2014…
HAM 1:07.675 FLAP
Hamilton only edging towards Ricciardo but his pace advantage in sector one is huge. If he gets a sniff of DRS he may well get past.
Did Hulk get damaged on lap 1? Weird to see him slower than Palmer all race.
Ham FLAP
my comment was deleted because i said vettel is a crybaby…..:)
Envy on that bottas absolutely perfect start
exactly
Perez saw some rain!
A Bottas win has also a positive aspect for Vettel – Hamilton’s team mate will be less willing to move for Hamilton should there be a case.
It’s concerning that Mercedes #2 can easily handle Ferrari #1
This weekend he was Mercedes’ #1.
+1
Is HAM still FLAP ?
apparently he is
1:07:484 if I remember right. Kimi just drove 1:07.486
This is when someone’s engine blows and we get a Safety Car until the end…
HAM 1.07.411 FLAP while trying to overtake RIC
Well that was fun at the end
what is FLAP ??
Fastest LAP
ok thanks
1:07:411 for LH44
When you fly away! Not really:D Fastest lap.
Fastest Lap
The super softs were crap today.
what a final lap!!!!!!
They didn’t know which battle to show, I wouldn’t have minded seeing the one for the lead more than the one for 3rd
Wish they’d experiment with a split-screen, one half with a battle, each.
We see it to compare quali laps, so what about in-race?
Even despite good fun during last couple of laps, a very meh race.
That in-car with Vettel on last lap was insane
bwoaaarrrrrr
11th place for Palmer.
Doesn’t sound like a interesting race
Good to see Romain already tweeting his placing from the cockpit
How is that possible ? He carries a phone in the car?
Yes! Tweet&Drive is an official campaign by Formula 1. ;)
it was damage limitation in this race for ham in the battle for the wdc, 20 points difference instead of 14
Vettel: “One more lap, aye…”
Enough with Austria GP it’s too short and boring..
Heiko Waßer from RTL messing up Mika Häkkinen with Kimi Räikkönen – quality stuff from him once again.
It looking Mercedes will win 4th straight constructor championship, because of Kimi…
Doesn’t sound like a interesting race
I mean gap is now 33 points
I would say, because of Bottas!
Red bull ring and spa look like little sub machine guns.
Spa in particular looks like the uzi
Red bull ring looks like a tommy gun.
What’re the chances of Bottas catching Hamilton in the championship by the end of the year?
He is doing great isn’t he
Guessing BOT will still be at Mercedes next year.
I expected a lot of boo at Vettel if he on podium in silverstone..
Always embarrassing when lowlifes attract attention.
Thanks as always for joining in guys, give your verdict on the Austrian Grand Prix here:
https://www.racefans.net/2017/07/09/rate-race-2017-austrian-grand-prix/
Cheers Keith, mods and all.
Didn’t know it was the British Grand Prix I just watched ;)
Signing off with a fail….. :)
Hello everyone and welcome to F1 Fanatic Live for this weekend’s British Grand Prix!
First practice is coming up shortly.
Can’t wait to see how quick the cars are going to be this weekend. Will Copse be flat-out now?
https://www.racefans.net/2017/07/13/silverstone-adds-bigger-barriers-drivers-say-copse-taken-flat/
Vettel’s had his first run with the Shield – more pictures going up here:
https://www.racefans.net/2017/07/14/first-pictures-shield-action-track/
Interesting to see him trying to look past glare on it while sitting in garage, trying to look at screen on other side of it. Wonder how Singapore, sun reflecting on it, work then.
Can they give it an anti-glare tint, perhaps?
I hope so, yes.
Buxton mentioned on Twitter that Seb reported blurred view too, possibly because of the needed thickness to withstand/absorb impacts. That glare is going to be a huge issue with lights and with a low sun. Still needs quite a bit of on track time to make it work IMO.
Was that a radio message from Daniil Kvyat which didn’t have to be censored? Extraordinary.
Vettel has to pit after flat-spotting his tyres.
So, on Sky, di Resta was just now saying he want open cockpits so we can see helmets etc. I have to say, from my experience last weekend in Austria, having been quite close to the track, that really doesn’t work super currently for people at the track: most designs are too cluttered and therefore become a blur of something.
In concreto (and sorry for a bit of a rant) HAM’s yellow is great, idenitifyable (hence can recognize BOT from not being him), VET white works (and thus Kimi is the other …), kvy/sai/ric/ver – too much RBR to distinguiguish at speed; MAS: that neon-yellow swoosh on top works (and !=stroll) ; Hulk/Palmer: meh, FI – both shades of pink, nvm. ERI/WEH – light/yellow vs. darker, okayish. So for identifying drivers, that’s not great is it? But I agree good to see head, though shield doesn’t imair that too much, I think.
By the way, other ways to identify drivers, by those numbers, again from Austria experience? Yeah, 33 vs 3 at speed is sometimes doable; 77/44 works bc. colour, Ferrari 5/7 bit small but good contrast; Sauber okayish on sidepod; FI,Williams, Haas, Renault – useless. McLaren unreadable too, too cleverly small (very McLaren?).
I’m not keen on having the driver’s surname abbreviations on the cars, they should just stick with the numbers.
Agree very much; oh, STR – the red on dark blue numbers are hard to spot too, didn’t help at all. Also, FIA needs to decide where number should go and how big, specific place on all cars so we know where to look.
Exactly, the way Red Bull makes those numbers stand out works really well, like they do in NASCAR. The abbreviations are hard to read at speed and magnified by things like using unreadable red (STR), the placing of them (McLaren and FI) or not having great contrast (Haas) and being too small to read at speed (Renault, Sauber).
The boldly lined RBR numbers work great, the Ferrari number in a badge makes it stand out enough to read too. That should be the approach on all cars for next year IMO
With the shield, I think it will be quite hard to discern those helmets, especially if they don’t get rid of the glare on it.
I remember when I identified Vettel on TV based on whether the helmet was of WEB’s design.
Glad to see more T-cams are being used by the director instead of those retro shoulder-view cameras. Here’s hoping this trend will continue.
vettel on SS nearly 2 seconds behind Bottas on S. Doesn’t look good
Too early to jump to definite conclusions as we don’t know the fuel loads, for example.
sure. But I just don’t remember them being so far behind in FP1 this year.
Alonso looks faster, gains for Honda?
It could be a sign that the 3rd variant of this year’s Honda is working more or less as intended now
New track record already for Bottas on the soft tyres – 1’29.106. These cars are seriously quick here.
And Bottas quite a bit faster than Lewis so far. Also a pretty large spread between cars
Ferrari seems to be slowly upping their pace in the speed traps. Maybe they are evaluating their new engine upgrade during this FP1?
Red Bull do not look anywhere near Mercedes this weekend so far, do they. Being half a second off with the softer tyres … Hamilton now about as fast as Bottas though, and Ferrari seems to be slowly building up their speeds too.
Thanks for taking part everyone, here’s the run-down on first practice:
https://www.racefans.net/2017/07/14/2017-british-grand-prix-first-practice-result-fp1/
Glad Sky is doing something to counter Horner’s disingeneous talk about how it’s all Silverstone mismanagement.
What was he saying?
Oh, they asked him abt. Silverstone contract, he said it was a great track but BRDC did everything wrong with new part, esp. wing – Hill: yeah, FOM wanted a building like that, and some other ways it turned out aren’t ideal, but came out of all the multiple demands on the track; brundle pitched in too.
Second practice is coming up shortly. Five teams didn’t run the super-soft tyre this morning so expect the running order to change a bit. Here’s the best times from first practice by tyre:
https://www.racefans.net/2017/07/14/2017-british-grand-prix-first-practice-result-fp1/
Surprise, surprise: Grosjean is complaining about his brakes again.
I always think that the brake wasn’t the issue, it’s him…magnussen never complain about his brake…
Is HAM on S/softs now?
no, Soft
Looking at these times, could we approach 1:26es in quali?
It’s looking like that. Incredible.
Doesn’t look like they’re gaining a huge amount of time from soft to super-soft, though.
Maybe the super-soft are degrading during the lap?
Hm, Bottas on SSoft a bit less than half a tenth faster than Hamilton, indeed doesn’t seem very big gain (though BOT only ran medium so far)
From my Calculation the SS is over 3-5 tenths advantage on average but thats not enough though we can see much faster times when the track rubbers in and they take fuel out
Hamilton with out his mistake at maggots and becketts and considering his S3 time he can do a 28.0-28.2 Which is mighty impressive for these cars. I guess when every thing is off we might see 26 mid to high.
Dear me it really isn’t looking good for Palmer. Eight-tenths off.
#itssameforeveryweekend
From the onboards with speedo meter i observed that they are cutting out the H after they exit the Abby,Copse and Stowe . I didn’t remember this last year, Guess they used to have bit more braking zone which helped them to gain K which negated H deficit. now they can’t , its time i guess we can term Silverstone as Engine Track rather than Aero track given how H becoming even more predominant
Hiii Alll! To all British fans enjoy your home GP, and those in Silverstone hope you have a great weekend! :D
Cars flying off now at Becketts, change of wind catching them out there
Good to see it is challenging, probably.
Judging by the long runs, Soft is the best racing tyre
Whoops: FOM let Ricciardo’s team radio go out uncensored…
Ah, not on the world feed though.
So Bottas wraps up both practice sessions on top at Silverstone but Hamilton was close both times. Here’s the final practice session report:
https://www.racefans.net/2017/07/14/2017-british-grand-prix-second-practice-result-fp2/
And Vettel’s not been too complimentary about his run with the Shield:
https://www.racefans.net/2017/07/14/vettel-says-got-dizzy-driving-shield/
bit of rain says kimi?
Vettel’s sending up so many sparks he’s going to set the track on fire.
is it going to rain for qualy? what’s the prediction
Apparently it is supposed to clear a bit after noon, although maybe only around 14:00 (when qualifying will already end).
Was Alonso running without the T-wing there?
looks like it indeed.
maybe going for a tad extra straight line speed?
Dan Ricciardo gets a 5spot grid penalty too for a gearbox change?
yep
Ah so much for the new updates..
Hello Allll :)
Will anyone try to do some laps in wet conditions?
I think no one wants to risk anything before Quali
Looks like we’re not going to see any improvements now.
indeed. No use risking damage to the cars. Surprising that McLaren sends out Stoffel. Did he have an issue they repaired an now want to see everything is working?
Vandoorne out on inter!
Brave, ok they’re saying that he had problems so he’s testing them out..
yeah, looks like they just did something like an installation lap with him, already back into the pits
Verstappen now having a look outside too.
Bit of a narrow escape for Ricciardo there!
My pole time prediction: (should qualifying stay dry throughout) 1:26.650.
that’s very agressive, I think a 1:27.0 or slightly below it will be maximal
Yes, generally the improvement from FP3 to Qualifying is around 1 second, but this time it might be around 1.5 as FP3 was partially wet, which means that we possibly didn’t get to see the usual one-lap pace improvement from FP2 to FP3.
Evening all from Bangkok. Looks like Q is going to be a bit more interesting with grid drops for both Battas and Ricardo. Should make for an even more interesting race tomorrow.
Oops… Bottas*
“Stoff and the team navigate the twists and turns of Silverstone’s iconic circuit.” From the McLaren Tweet… I wonder if he walks slower than Alonso as well?
Go away rain!
If it rain, what out for red bull
*watch
Stay here rain!
Radar suggests the rain is over. But who really knows?
Twitter knows!
And the umbrellas in the crowd. They know too.
wait, what time is the qualy? Did I really miss the prediction deadline?
we are bńow about 7 minutes into Q1
yeah I did… ouch
More rain please don’t stop, Ham out Q1 lol
Sorry to disappoint you he’s 3rd so far
Red Flag
yeah, I think it will be hard to quickly recover Ricciardos car from there. They don’t have Monaco like cranes here.
why red flag?
And ones again a redbull breaking down
Any times set? I have no live feed here.
Most people set a time, yes, including RIC (1st).
Good… Thanks
The saubers didn’t, and Palmer is low, but not sure he’d get much ahead
If it dries up, Ricciardo’s time is toast
He’s starting last anyways, so does it matter?
How much time is left in Q1?
10 minutes
8 minutes
This is exciting for me, I don’t have a clue as to what’s actually happening on the track unless someone tells me! I love it! It’s like a blind date!
VET just went 1.5s faster than HAM, but, times are falling fast
Thanks
Hi guys, just joined. Finally, a wet Grand Prix. England do your worst, bring it on (the rain)!
So Riccardo will start second last after his 5 place grid penalty.
I think ALO might be going for slicks (VAN?)
oh, it’s Vandoorne
3 minutes left and not many in the pits to change to dry tires.
So who is in the drop zone right now
Usual plus ALO
Thanks
ALO made it by less than a second to do a lap on dry tires
Max FLAP!
Surely Ric takes all brand new components and takes the grid penalty as he will start at the back anyway
ALO P1
I could cry right now.
Bravissimo, Fernando )))
ALO FLAP Q1! In a spectacular fashion on slicks!
How long has it been since he’s been fist in a session
ALO P1!! Plus a huge grid drop penalty right?
Love the cheers all over the track when he did it!
Stroll family reaction hahaha
yeah, 30 spots
Yeah, he’ll still battle with RIC for last spot I guess (depends on when penalty is counted?), but perfectly done by Alonso and McLaren, great story and great to see the crowd response!
Madman. He could have been there with inters but gambled on slicks to top the session! And he did it.
Honestly, with his 30 spots grid drop, he could have just not bothered after his first lap. But I think these are the little thrills he keeps himself amused with, having just a few hundreds to spare to even be able to get a lap in and nail it with the best time. Great moment.
And for the team too, showing us and themselves they are able to do it if given the chance, great motivation.
Stroll rises up to occasion to impress his family.
Where did he come?
Alonso just knock him out of Q1
Yawn.
He didn’t need to do it, but he did it regardless. Good sport!
exactly.
That was a magical one minute and 38 seconds. ALO the only driver on a live lap at the death, lighting the timing screens up, and duly takes P1 in Q1. As meaningless as it is, the crowd erupting really made that lap something.
+ 1
That Renault is beginning to look like a proper race car. (In the hands of good pilot) ;)
Nice to see Billy Monger in there with Mercedes in the garage.
The graphics are appauling this year. We can’t see the times! Way to lacking in information
Yep, I am pretty convinced they are trying to get us to use the app (is that stable now? I stopped trying it)
You need to pay even to access the leader board
This annoys me as well. It seems to get worse every GP
If Keith will allow, this is a great timing feed website. I always use it and now when I have no TV or fast internet, it is extremely valuable. Remove spaces: f1. tfeed. net /live
Softs seems a good tyre to start the race on for Bottas
So Perez held up Vettel, but is also in the dropzone?
Ocon right front was beat up already
Ooh, Vandoorne outqualifies Alonso!
Was Alonso trying?
ofc he was.
I don’t think he was pushing it as much. No sense risking putting Vandoorne out of Q3 when he himself will be starting at the back anyway
Alonso on old engine?
The Hulk is flying, let’s see what max can do
Bottas 2 tenths quicker than the Ferraris while being on a harder tyre is depressing from the championship perspective
Not so much depressing now, is it?
You know… I really like this Renault team.
I like more if Hulk team mate is Kubica….
Ferrari need a trump card for this championship. Consistently slower than Mercedes on Saturday.
They not far off Mercedes
If Mercedes can be this much far over a large number of laps tomorrow, then it is over.
HAM under investigation and rightly so I reckon
yeah, looked pretty obvious there in the replay. Grosjeans time loss also fits the accusation
Kimi on pole then? :)
Kimi on pole !!!
hehe, Kimi, you’re such a troll))))
Not a laggard :)
Vettel fails at the crucial moment. Good that he gets the clean side, if that’s any consolation.
Yes Kimi ! Pole wooo
Is this a joke? Daily mail say it’s Hamilton
Well Ham is under investigation so who knows
He’s assuming Ham will be punished I reckon.
Ah thanks I thought vettel was second. I would be happy if it was a ferrari front row tomorrow
No joke. Hamilton will get at least a 3 place drop for that !
Could kimi win tomorrow? That would probably put a smile on my face for a week
No Ferrari won’t allow kimi to win. Another easy one for Vettel
Good luck leaving the circuit stewards. If you drop HAM!
There not soccer hooligans
It shouldn’t be that way… and I don’t think it will be. If Lewis was wrong, he was wrong.
Completely agree
A midfield racer would have got a penalty. Good job Kimi.
Eh, what was Vettel whining about there? Again.
Outlap timing by his team perhaps?
yeah, maybe that’s it this time.
My pole time prediction went wrong by just 0.050 seconds, dammit!
Thank you all for a lovely and somewhat informing evening. It was a pleasure to see many of you again after so many years. Cheers, Alex Bkk
Lewis walking away from Seb interview….
Boos from Silverstone crowd. Bunch of Hooligans.
For Vettel
I thought they cheer for him in London
You saying Vettel is a hooligan?..
No mention of RoGro incident at all by BBC :-)
Just came up on the live text
At SkySports they are all over it
Anyone have full results?
Thank you all for a lovely and somewhat informing evening. It was a pleasure to see many of you again after so many years. Cheers, Alex Bkk
My apologies is my post end up in the wrong place, but the internet speed I have to work with at the moment is slower and less dependable than a Minardi.
On a different note, what about the f2 race?
Just seen the RoGro replay again on Sky; that’s never a penalty.
Given that Romain improved on his next lap and stewards are generally not so punishing these days, my guess is 2 penalty points + 5 second penalty to be served on 1st pit stop (at the worst)
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Mark my words! Ricciardo will win this race from P19 on the grid. I know that’s a very brave/risky prediction, but you never know what might happen.
Based on the word “you never know what will happen in a race”, I would like nominate pascal wehrlein to win Silversone GP 2017. So sauber probably can maintain existence by better prize money😂😂
Wow, That’s an even bolder prediction than mine, LOL.
Haha…pre race jokes mate. But whi knows? 😂😂
Good morning everyone, how’s the weather at silverstone?
There could be light rain shower.
Another ALO stunner? 😂😂😂
If it rains then yes, it’s possible (a stunner from Alonso).
Only if his engine… hahahaha
hello everybody from Malaysia
Same. Astro 832 bro? 😂😂😂
online feed bro, hate astro coverage
Hello everyone and welcome to F1 Fanatic Live for the British Grand Prix which will get underway in half an hour.
Conditions are dry at Silverstone ahead of the race but there is a risk a shower may hit the track.
Is it predicted before or after the start?
At the moment no rain is predicted.
Hi from somewhere in Thailand…
Hi from somewhere in the USA
Hi, from a peninsular+island country Malaysi. Sad to say this year is my last year to see F1 at home soil😥😥😥
hi from estonia
What’s wrong with brundle? Not the first time he’s sick. Hope nothing serious
Wonder who will be doing the commentary..
For Martin to miss the BGP, as well as his 20th anniversary, I’m quite concerned to say the least :(
Aww I hope he’s ok
Rosberg standing next to Chase Carey during the national anthem, LOL.
Anyone find Silverstone to be difficult to get into rhythm in a racing game (eg project cars , f1 game series)?
No, I don’t.
How about Silverstone compared to spa and red bull ring?
I find the Red Bull ring really tough to get a rhythm. Driving it in rFactor 2 and Automobilista anyway. Silverstone I have no probs at all, same with Spa.
One problem for Silverstone for me is that the old main straight always confuses me when I am on a lap. I lose situational awareness as I am puzzled why there are 2 start/finish points on a single lap.
Its challenging, love long circuits
Somehow I can memorise the spa circuit and nordschiflle but not Silverstone.
Hiii Alll! Enjoy the race!
Hi Lak.
You too; i will miss the start, still underway.
We’ll keep you posted on here :)
So how is this going to start? At the first corner, what’s it gonna be?
Maldonado attack!
Ah! Maxvanaldo!
Bottas is in a prime position to do one of his torpedoes.
Kimi 2
Hi everybody
Hi Oletros!
Bring on
Problems already for Palmer. He’s out before the start!
Palmers luck!! So bad.
Not yet a race. Lol palmer. Bad luck
F1 cars are too large in my opinion. ..
Would smaller cars facilitate overtaking? Assume same aerodynamics.
Might help slightly if they were narrower but we’ve only just gone wider
Poor Palmer
Our nerves…
Why can drivers never find a safe place to pull off ?
That’s harsh for Palmer. He’s not having a great season but at least half of that is due to the car.
The reason Palmer still racing because most of the problem was Renault…
And $$$
Max into P3, Ham gets away
Oh Sainz is out
It seems like the “torpedo” is the cause again
SC deployed!
Räikkönen was quick at the start and then really slow. Wonder what his problem was?
It wasnt any problem he just had a good start then back to normal.
Good job Dani and Congrat on the toro Rosso resign for 2018
New Toro Rosso lineup in 2018.
That was a great re-pass by Verstappen.
Gutsy
Like LAK says: Gutsy and good of both men (Vettel as well) to fight firm and fair.
Message to Franz Tost: get rid of Torpedo Daniil for 2018, otherwise the driver relationship will explode in 2018.
It’s already on his todo list after he took out Verstappen last race:-)
Interesting move by Sauber to tick the ‘mandatory pit stop’ box during the Safety Car period. Soft to the end for Wehrlein?
Wasn’t he the one hit by the spinning TR?
It looked like a white car but who knows, could be blue and white.
Think it was Kevin, who was hit
Haha they warned Kimi about Ham’s restarts
As Coulthard was saying on Channel 4, I think that Sainz Kvyat incident was a high speed racing incident when you look at it in full
It no doubt was but it wasnt the smoothest way to overtake your teammate.
Ricciardo off and back to last on exit of luffield. Not sure who was on his inside. Over gravel.
That was so clumsy from Ricciardo
Not typical of riccardio to make that sort of mistake.
Bottas up to 6th
Up to 5th after passing Hulkenberg
Ridiculous DRS speed advantage
ALO has gained 7 spots. I guess 3 or 4 are due to incidents.
bottas is flying, tyres working good
bottas coming up to vettel, should be juicy this..
Verstappen doing bottas a favor too
Well this is looking tasty. The early Safety Car means there’s no gap for the front runners to drop into so they’ll be stuck out for a bit. Bottas is edging towards Vettel who’s stuck behind Verstappen…
And Wehrlein has done his mandatory tyre change.
Another penalty for Kvyat, he must have quite a few points now.
Clearly the stewards didn’t agree Kvyat Sainz was a racing incident.
The stweeds that double standards for championship contenders.
I agree they have double standards. For example Hamilton absolutely cheated on the start a couple years ago but he was in contention and the stewards literally said they didn’t want a silly mistake like that to take him out of the championship. So yeah.. :P
Perhaps the stewards are consistent in that regard (not a compliment or inut just neutral)
I do believe that is true.
And again a drive through penalty for Kvyat for “rejoining the track unsafely”.
i think the Torpedo needs to be put in a museum already..
Ricciardo all over Alonso’s tail
On Sky News Paddy Lowe says they’re not expecting rain at the moment.
To me, it looked like when Kvyat started to overtake Sainz, Sainz effectively left him little choise but to drive onto the grass. And at the speed he was going, surely you have to try and rejoin as quick as possible. Although I agree what he did was dangerous. But I still think Sainz was partly responsible for him going on the grass in the first place. I’d have called it a raceing incident but it’s up the them.
Anyone believe the rumour that Sainz with take over Palmers seat at the next race?
Ric passes Alo
A shame Räikkönen is behind Hamilton.. Vettel might put more pressure on the Mercedes.
Well, he should pass Max first.
Beat me to it.
Yeah, Räikkönen should be in front! ;)
Woah go Max!
Lovely driving!
From who
I remember when people cried holding their hats that Vettel couldn’t race wheel to wheel.
Has KYV served his drive through yet?
Yes he has
Awesome battle between VET and VER!
Bottas is right behind vet because of this
Great fight, but Vettel is right on the edge pushing max off while max was in front.
And still Vettel felt the need to angrily wave at Max for repaying the favour :-)
Max was in front so it’s not the same
Vettel shouldn’t have done what he did, but if Verstappen complained, he most certainly should not have done the same thing effectively on Vettel
Shouldn’t have done what? Exactly the same thing Hamilton did against Rosberg for a few years? And everyone said who cares, that’s racing?
VET made a couple of mistakes there and here comes Bottas
How can Ham be so much quicker than Bot? Are they running different specs?
Hamilton is on the SSofts, Bottas on the Soft tyres. That will make a difference. And by now Bottas is in Vettels wake too.
Bottas behind Vettel is in favour of Verstappen, who has nothing to lose. It’s either a safe and boring 5th, or fighting for 3rd/4th with risks.
Kvyat setting a new record for most bleeps in a radio message…
Haha :D
Haha, awesome comment!
Do you recall who made it through unbleeped last week?
Raikkonen seems to be closing in slightly to Hamilton. Would be nice to see him win a race, although I think Hamilton is just saving his tyres currently.
Does anyone what the pit stop window is expected to be?
When they have a gap. If Hamilton doesn’t yet feel safe with his gap, I’d say it’ll be a little while.
That, or rain.
Here they go at it again… Max and Vet, Max does just enough…
Seb is whining again…what’s new?
Just imagine how exciting Austria (and the races before that) could have been with Verstappen still in the race
Kimi saying it’s raining lightly, this could be interesting
Slight rain/drops with Vettel just stopped? Could be risky.
Vet pits hoping for an undercut
Won’t be good if it rains
Man this is boring as hell. Mercs 0.5s faster than Ferrari. And Ferrari 0.3s faster than RBR. Top teams never overtake unless you are Mercedes and have super quali mode.
What have you been watching today?
Stop watching the Monaco replay and watch the British GP live. ;-)
Maybe you want to find yourself a different sport to watch? The only thing I ever see you comment on is how bad, boring, tedious etc the races are.
In contrast, I see a tense race with Verstappen holding off Vettel, Ricciardo storming up the field, Bottas making headway and Hamilton keeping the advantage up front.
+1
If Raikkonen takes the chequered flag ahead of Vettel it’ll be the first time he’s done that for 16 races.
Will be interesting to see what they do this time. With Verstappen jumping past Vettel earlier, they couldn’t do the pincher movement on Hamilton.
Max responds into the pits now
DRS is too effective again
No it isn’t, just look at Verstappen/Vettel.
Yes, see Vettel overtake Hulk.
Ahhh slow pit stop! Vettel is ahead!
Think he’d’ve been behind even with a clean stop. Vettel was very quick.
That’s true Keith. It was about 0.5sec too slow.
Yeah, another slow RBR pit stop. Ridiculous that Merc, Fer and Will can do 2.0-2.2 pit stops without any fault and RBR can’t.
Since Vettel was about 3 seconds faster than any lap he had done before the stop, I think Vettel already did it on track anyway.
Thats just not true. Watch some more pitstops from those teams.
Williams just made an 4sec pitstop what do you say about that? Only RB fail ok…….
And again redbull gives max a bad pitstop. Bye bye fight with Vettel
Was going to say what keith did. I don’t think the slow stop made the difference
I think you’re right
Yes overtake in pits. Again my point. Top teams never overtake unless you are Mercedes and have super quali mode. Or 2sec faster than car ahead.
You can watch the Tour de France. The “lead” position changes every few hundred meters and I believe you can find a live stream.
Stop whining. It’s just because Verstappen was extremely focused on blocking Vettel.
Will bottas come out ahead of Vettel if he pits
Bad call of RBR; they are not known for quick pit stops; should have left Max out
They also have to consider staying ahead of Bottas.
Staying out and losing 1+ sec each lap?
Agreed. The increasing drops of rain at Luffield may make him regret it.
Doesn’t matter. RBR can’t match the Ferrari race pace, somewhere between 0.5 and 1.0 sec slower. This was the only way to TRY and keep position.
Hulk made good choice with Renault. FI does not have resources to win anything. Renault will only improve.
Any of sign of rain yet? Hoping so!
Bottas will be coming up on Kimi before Ferrari stop again?
Hamilton has great pace but so does Bottas – fastest lap now!
Indeed, both Mercs really flying now
In other words, the Mercedes has a great, dominating pace around here. ;)
RAI pits
Now wel’ll see how fast Ferrari get Seb in front of him.
Vettel wants Kimi to stay another year at Ferrari…? Is that a contract requirement?
So Kimi cannot continuously match Hamilton’s pace. Vettel is flying without Verstappen in front (0.5 sec faster) and Bottas is making up ground towards Raikkonen. It seems the only battle for the rest of the race is Vettel vs. Bottas and later on maybe both vs. Raikkonen.
Ham boxing
Does anyone think the fire in Vettel’s rear wheel affected his start a little? I think he put a little too much heat in them in the 2nd fomation lap.
Max has (almost) always been a bullet on the start, I don’t think any mechanical issue would have changed anything.
I dont think its a problem, something stuck in the airduct that make a little smokeshow.
Not great strategy by Mercedes there, unnecessarily costing Bottas time.
That’s what I thought as well. Bottas should be let in front and control the pace. If Hamilton can then easily match him, let them swap.
That was why they told Lewis to let Bottas past. He didn’t want to have any of it (I’ll pull him along)
Love seeing Räi speeding along :)
What strikes me these days is we almost never see any risky strategies. Strategies are so darn safe, always covering the other guy. That’s too bad.
Whatabout Pascal pitting on lap 3?
Ah, didn’t notice that. But true, I should’ve said I meant everything from Mercedes to Renault/McLaren.
Without refueling there are not really much options
Heard they said that VET requesting RAI to stay another year if he’s to sign contract extension. How can that play out with Arrivabene?
Kimi complaining about something :/
Could it be that Vettel doesn’t want Alonso as his team mate?
Perhaps too😂
Shouldn’t Bottas pit soon
maybe waiting to see whether there will be any rain?
Easy: as long as Bottas is not (significantly) slower than Rai, Vet or Ver, he can stay where he is.
Kimi complaining about something :/
Something in the cockpit. As long as he can stay focused, he’ll be fine even if it bruises.
Depends David, if it’s something like Hamilton in Baku, it could potentially be dangerous or causing discomfort during steering for example. This could play into the hands of Vettel and Verstappen.
Not if it interferes with the breaking pedal
BOT will come out ahead of Vettel after pit
Lets see
or not
BOT pits
Bottas into the pits
Stupid pit timing!
Yup unfortunately :-/
Curious how the computers decided on the pit timing for bott as.
RIC pits
By the way @keithcollantine I think there’s an issue with the times displayed. When the last comment by LAK was posted at 13:43 it actually was 13:58. I thought I missed 15 mins of comments, so refreshed, but then I saw LAK’s comment coming in. ;-)
I asked kieth about this at the start of the year I think. He said it was on the to do list but it isn’t the most critical thing. It does confuse me sometimes though!
I see Ben. Indeed, not critical, but confusing at least.
Must be on the server/hosting side, have seen this somewhere else where they commented about a mismatch in time between the different systems.
ALO out again? Pfftt
Oh Alonso has to retire, what a shame…
Perez again, it very hard to lap him
It was a genuine race pass thouhg. Should be hard
It Dan fighting fir position with perez
It was Pascal that was lapped not Perez.
BOT purple= FLAP
bottas still has enough laps to take vettel..
Ricciardo doing a great race
BOT gained 2 secs in 2 laps
Those moments your divided between the individual result and the championship: I hope Bottas can get to a podium, but I also want Vettel to keep his advantage in the WDC as much as possible. :/
If Mercedes manages to stay faultless, it will be only a matter of time that Hamilton takes a dominant lead in the championship. The Mercedes is the faster car on average.
Without any issues, Hamilton would be leading right now already.
@xenomorph91 That’s not true. The faster car on average this season is Vettel, seeing the WDC standings. Mercedes still have to prove they can overtake Vettel in the WDC and keep it that way.
This is a yawn right now..
Yep hope it raining, that would spice the race…
Ricciardo one car away from his team mate from P20! Great drive
Hes also more than half a lap behind, speaks more of the other cars than Ric.
Performance difference is big though between Redbull and lower teams. Ricciardo hasn’t been that great, he has made errors.
Ham:” These tyres are blistered”
Carlos Sainz, interviewed by Dutch tv says the incident with Kvyat was “clear as everyone could see” but he also says “I think it’s best not to comment in public and keep this internal with the team”.
Someone is trying to get the team on his side…
Kvyat is already history in F1. After lots of errors and taking out VER last weekend, I will be surpriced if he has a seat come next year.
The Hulk has a very strong race pace, sincerely hope he can keep Ricciardo at bay.
This race director is terrible. We have been watching the force indias following eachother for half of the telecast.
He is following Kevin:-)
It’s Perez’s tyres that are blistered, not Hamilton’s.
Well, I don’t think Massa is doing a bad job here, but the fact the Williams is only slightly faster than a bad McLaren must mean that Williams is no longer a decent team. Such a shame. Hopefully it will be good at some tracks.
Serious question. Would you prefer f1 to be a spec series ?
Personally I find it impossible to find a good balance between driver ability and technology/ money.
That can be said of McLaren and Sauber as well.
Under two seconds Bottas x Vettel, hope we get a fight in the end
Max can get a free stop.
i just would like to know how can a team as legendry as it is accept that their cars are backmarkers for a season long, how can someon sleep when they are 2.8 sec offf the pace…what is honda still doing as an engine supplier here?
Vettel and Bottas getting good now!
Bottas is really going for Vettel
Vettel has really old tyres
Must have big flat spot too now
VET being his nasty self again.
Noah close!
Time for Vettel to defend, this will be good.
c’mon bottas..
Both Vettel and Bottas haven’t got the best of tyres it seems.
Yes Bottas has done it!
Too easy in the end
VET’s tires are toast
Luckily the oil burning is prohibited from 2018 onwards, because even Merc doesn’t have so much speed advantage in regular race mode. Bloody hell….
It was only Ferrari who had to stop doing the fuel burning since Baku. That means Mercedes were already not doing it anymore.
It’s sad to see the huge difference in speed between the top 2 cars
Quali mode + oil burning mode = 0.5-0.7 sec faster per lap. They can do this for 2/3 laps a race.
Ferrari was the team burning oil… When they stopped that they lost a lot.
yes bottas..
love it:
Team radio ‘Well done(Bottas)’
Bottas: ‘Minimal talking’
Championship officially over.Ferrari can’t develop car as season goes on.
Mercedes strategy worked really well. Bottas guaranteeing that contract.
Lol, what an exciting pass. DRS forever!
Sarcasm detector is functioning ok
Well done Nico
Could we see Vettel drop down even behind Verstappen then if his tyres now give up?
In your dreams ;)
That’s what Red Bull are thinking of
Verstappen complained about his front tires too
BOT FLAP
Not the same as a Butflap is it ;)
Sadly not
I don’t understand when backmarkers don’t move out of the way
Verstappen 1.4 sec faster a lap than Vettel. If Vettel’s tryes are really destroyed, he might catch him at the end.
would be a nice end to otherwise boring race.
he needs 3sec per lap and im sure Vet got enough to defend in the last corner.
Another BOT FLAP
Haha bottas 1.5 seconds behind not 10.5 for kimi’s pitboard
No, Bottas is 5.5 behind. 10.5 was Hamilton to Kimi.
HAM FLAP for the grand chelam as it stands
Here’s hoping for some final laps action. It’s boring since the pit stops, very very boring. Have not commented this much since a while. ;-)
bottas takes rai..wow
1.30.6 for Hamilton
Kimi’s left front is GONE.
aww, Kimi.
RAI?
Tyre gave up on him
Oh no Kimi has problems! Vettel will get that podium place after all I guess…
Kimi’s luck!
indeed
Lucky Seb podium
The gods really like Vettel
Do they?
Hahahaha
Lol huge jinxing there.
ah tyre blown..
Raikkonen will get back past Vettel I think
Max is also in for a bad tyre.
I think the tam called him in to be on the safe side.
With Vettel’s tyre going off now, I think that was a prudent move from them to call Max in
Wow, vettel, tyres gone?
Or not
Debris?
What is happening?
Max lost a podium at with that pit stop
Oh dear!! Vettel has a puncture Kimi regains P3! This is crazy!
Vettel ALSO. I’m gonna go crazy.
Heartbreak! Why puncture one after another?
Too muhc pressure on the tyres on this extremely high speed corner track.
Looks like Red Bull reacted best after Kimi’s tyre gave way by calling Max in. Ferrari should have stopped Vettel too.
Yes but Ferrari couldnt have known what RB did before they passed the pitentry
Amazing!
This impacts the championship bigly. As we say here.
So unlucky for both Ferrari drivers
And Verstappen.
How is it unlucky for Verstappen? He got one position for free.
If both Ferrari drivers had this issue, it could very likely have been the same for Verstappen. If they didn’t do it and it happened, you would probably wonder why they didn’t do the same with him. To me, for safety reasons, it was the right decision.
Well, sort of justice for Kimi.. he got his podium back
:(
Wow crazy end for ferrari
Omg redbull denies max a P3. He will be furious
No, Max was already complaining for 10+ laps about his fronts.
He told he could’ve stayed out
Since Vettel got in the dirt right after Max questioned them, I think he will see that it was the right call in the end.
woohoo love it
Who was it that called Vettel lucky again?
Hamilton-maniacs.
F1 is crazy this year
finally the vettel luck breaks
Luck? Give me a break…
have a kit kat then..woohoo lovin it
Well if you wish bad luck to opponent,who knows…karma is a Bi… it could strike Hamilton tommorow.
What luck?
Kimi gets a well deserved podium
This is crazy!
Max just missed FLAP at the end
Hulk P6
Just as many pointed out, 20 points really was not a big gap at all. Down to 1 now.
Exactly ! And people were saying the Championship is over ! What a race
Well people are saying its over because Merc is dominating now so how does this change anything?
Of course it wasnt. Räikkönen’s bigggest points deficit in 2007 was 27 points to P1 – it equals 67.5 points today.
What an ending !!!
Wow! What a result for Lewis and Mercedes! I guess this makes up for not being in London! Haha so happy for the fans!!
Feel a little sorry for Ferrari. Happy for Kimi though.
Sorry for Ferrari to see it go wrong less than 5 rounds from the end, great for Kimi to still salvage the 3rd by quickly going in.
In the end, it just shows there IS a risk to undercutting.
good point
Dammit punctures! LOL.
The risk of the undercut finally bites !
Good point
Very sharp point!
I see what you did there, Rick!
RAI also suffered that :/
I think teams might not try the undercut alot now after today
Matching Clark, having a race from pole, leading all laps and setting the FLAP … On top of that, Vettel only gets home in 7th. I think Hamilton can be very happy with this weekend
😯😯😯
Amazing how quick the race was, just over 1 hour 20 mins with a couple laps behind the safety car
Although there was one less lap
Yeah with these speeds the nr of laps might be increased
They’d need more fuel and a car redesign to hold it. Or fuel saving which would make things rather dull.
Imagine HAM and BOT also having a puncture and the Ferraris suddenly fighting for the win hah!
Hamilton saved his tyres for quite a while after his pitstop, I think. And Bottas was on different, newer tyres altogether
+1
Ferrari were not just unlucky. They risked punctures with their tyre strategy.
yeah, especially with Vettel. And then they made it worse by not calling Vettel in as soon as Kimi had a problem
vettel, karma?
This is a popular podium!
was this also Hamilton’s 68th win? Or just the 67th to be sole second behind Schumacher
“First time I’ve been up here.”
Aww, I forgot how crap Jenson’s luck around Silverstone was :P
Interesting, so Mercedes did see a tiny start of an issue forming on their cars too. I think Ocon had a bit of that developing a bit earlier in the race too. Looks like it will be something Pirelli should have a look at.
Must be tough to make a tyre to get through Becket’s/Maggot’s at those speeds and lateral loads.
Really, was that on CH4? On RTL.DE Lauda said strategy and tyre wear all worked perfectly, but, he’s not the expert on tyres of course, nor does he always go for the full truth, I don’t think.
yeah, CH4 had Toto there answering that point. Ocon I saw in the race footage
On EJ saying RIC, VER probably the most exciting combination – after what Bottas shown in the last few races, I found myself thinking the HAM,BOT combination is also really quite good. But, that first lap by VER, wow. I didn’t see it live, but just now saw repeats, that was something.
I had my self thinking that over too with EJs remark. But I think that really Max is more exciting to see, although Bottas has shown that he is quite the worth Rosberg replacement. Now only 23 points of Vettel too.
Yep, Bottas is a silent killer, more than a thrilling experience. Still, I imagine Mercedes is plenty satisfied with their two drivers today. And Kimi also showed Ferrari that he’s valuable to them, I guess!
This year, I think Kimi has been more or less perfect for Ferrari. I am sure that had Max not been in between, they would have happily made Kimi have “a problem with hte floor” or something to wait and let Seb pass him before then being passed by Max too and getting critisized for losing motivation and being a few spots back.
Is EJ as bad as Bernie was with sexism? That remark towards Susie and having a household to run… sigh.
Yeah, becoming fossilised for sure.
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