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2nd February 2016, 23:52 at 11:52 pm #312076
@mick61 No problem, enjoy your stay, guys. I can only second that you share info about your experiences, the more the better indeed.
@foleyger Yes, sir. It’s worth wandering around the general admission at least once during the weekend, there are a few sweet spots around the fence. As far as I remember, the closest you can get to the action there is at T12 at the bottom of the hill or up, right after the chicane (although I’m not sure about this, it’s been far too long I’ve been there on those parts).
As for the ‘main train station,’ we actually have three similarly-sized terminal in Budapest – but all three of them are on the line of either metro line 2 (red) or metro line 3 (blue), so I’m pretty sure you’re at the right place anyway.
Have fun. :)1st February 2016, 20:40 at 8:40 pm #312032
@cactises So, in effect and in layman terms, you’re researching whether more consistent driving leads to better results?
My hunch (let’s call it a presumption) is that you’ll find stronger correlation in the Pirelli era, especially in the last two or three years, than before.
Good luck with your work.1st February 2016, 15:25 at 3:25 pm #312025
You state that 2015 may have been Maldonado’s turning point and that there is more to come if only he would keep his/a seat.
Nope. I asked what if end-2015 was a turning point for him. I don’t personally believe so. (And I’ve never said that there’s more to come from him if he manages to keep a seat.)1st February 2016, 12:29 at 12:29 pm #312014
he drew level on pace with Grosjean last year, after all.
I was pretty sure that this point would be picked and under attack here the most.
Driver form guides are ‘just’ headline, OK medium-deep, data – if you want the whole picture you have to look beyond that, take note of best sectors (i. e. combined best laps, which Keith does not provide in his quali analyses anymore, sadly), compare race paces on the race charts, consider driver errors in quali and the race, deep data, stuff like that.
According to my notes, on one-lap pace (which doesn’t necessarily equal the ‘qualified ahead’ columns here,) Grosjean was quicker 14 times, Maldonado 4 times and it was almost dead even once. The average quali gap was much smaller than in the headline results. In terms of race pace, it was even (8 times) or, due to different strategies and/or traffic, inconclusive (10 times, but including all three lap 1 double-retirements) bar the Hungaroring where Grosjean was clearly quicker. So on one lap, it was indeed Grosjean, but a) not by the amount in the headline figure, b) it was not a whitewash, so Maldonado had the pace, if he pulled himself together and c) in race conditions he was just as quick as the Frenchman. (Only a bit more error prone, 7-6 on Sundays, but a lot more so in high-stakes, point-scoring positions.)
Now I’m not saying ‘OMG JEEEZZZ, WHY U NO KEEP MALDO,’ I also think he’s likely unable to produce the goods consistently, he’s likely not strong enough mentally, I’m just trying to encourage others to ponder whether his late season consistency surge signifies he might have had more to give. I presumed at least we, F1 fanatics, are on the same page when it comes to judging on-track performance.
I think it was @xtwl who sounded off most meaningfully on the intended purpose of the topic and I’m actually very much with him in terms of verdict.
EDIT: @geemac also provided an excellent angle while I was typing this reply.31st January 2016, 11:21 at 11:21 am #311983
No problem, I’m happy to help. :)31st January 2016, 1:05 at 1:05 am #311976
@burras First of all, you’ve probably chosen the best stand to watch the race from – Gold 4 is the place to be when it comes to wheel-to-wheel action, it’s right above the first corner and the view of that piece of tarmac is superb. As for accommodation, just be sure to stay close to either metro line 3 (blue, north-south, see Google Maps, Transit layer on) or metro line 2 (red, west-east). Taking to the track, a lot of sites recommend taking suburban railway H8, accessible from the Eastern end of metro line 2, but you’re in for a roughly 35-40-minute walk to the circuit after you’re off of that one, so I would say taking the special bus line from Árpád híd station to Mogyoród is a better idea. (It’s “just” a 15-20-minute walk.) Budapest usually launches them just for the weekend. You can find them at the Árpád híd station of metro line 3. (Check back here before the weekend though, just to be sure the option is there this year as well. Somebody will be here to answer you.)
@mick61 Germany is very much like France or Spain motorway-wise (smooth roads and many full-fledged stops), but Austria and Hungary are a bit different. In Austria, the roads are often a bit bumpy, particularly in the mountain regions, and proper rest areas are a bit more scarce, whereas in Hungary, the motorway itself is in good condition, but it’s not always a five-star hotel at every rest station either. Still, it’s no disaster at either country, I would say every second or third stop is reasonably well-equipped.30th January 2016, 14:25 at 2:25 pm #311966
note that pastor has never had to sit out an fp1 session all year, whereas grosjean had to do so on many occasions.
Since the advent of sophisticated simulators, I doubt that is a massive disadvantage – I can’t recall many occasions when Grosjean had a bigger advantage because of more seat time during a weekend anyway. But it is a fact he missed FP1s nonetheless and it might contribute to losing some rhythm.
I’d have preferred a Magnussen-Maldonado line-up to a Magnussen-Palmer one.
I agree. The problem with Palmer is that he’s not even quick enough to begin with. At least, Maldonado was generally able to be as quick as Grosjean or just a fraction off. Magnussen – who’s a lot better package than Maldonado, I agree with that one as well – would sweep the floor with the Briton, I would say.18th January 2016, 9:58 at 9:58 am #311593
I second that, laptime conversion from the official releases (pdf) is your best bet. After that, and some manual arrangement, if the conversion is not perfect, it should be a simple VLOOKUP for every driver and every lap.
However, the above archive link does not work for me.
Fortunately, I downloaded each race data during the season, so I can send them over via e-mail or some hosting site. To the OP, PM me, if you are interested.14th January 2016, 11:52 at 11:52 am #311451
Idyllic – although I think the choice is rather dull. Either of the six configurations present in Grid Autosport, set on the other side of the Seine, would have been a better choice (more interesting set of corners, more elevation changes and also, possibly, better landmarks).11th January 2016, 11:24 at 11:24 am #311313
I also agree. Bottas seems to be at least a very very good driver, way above average – perhaps not Vettel, Hamilton or Alonso material, but we don’t quite know that yet.
His biggest strength is, without question, his defensive driving ability. It was not only Bahrain where he showcased it brilliantly.
Also, his consistency is remarkable as well – in a stark contrast with, as @fastiesty said, Massa.
After Massa’s form permanently dipped following Bianchi’s death, he even became consistently quicker than the Brazilian finally, so that’s also great.
One thing that striked me as a big negative though was how much he seemed to be affected by the Ferrari rumours. Just as those extinguished, he became a lot better. (Although that basically coincided with Massa’s spectacular dip in form and his ‘ragged’ first half of the season partly overlapped with his lingering back problems as well so it’s hard to differentiate things here.)
Overall, he’s still a real future champion candidate for me – I hope his back issue hasn’t made him permanently slower, not one bit.25th December 2015, 15:12 at 3:12 pm #310792
@jackysteeg Yep, that’s in the top 3 for me, at the very least, on the most misleading story titles list. This unethically opportunistic move paints a disappointing picture about the dire state of affairs in the modern press where clicks selling online trump everything else, including the bare minimum of clear writing. (Instead of the old days, when it was only the magazine cover that had to lure readers.)
I can take titles which do not reveal the whole picture (e. g. ‘This driver will NOT start the race tomorrow.’) because it’s still pretty clear cut – but I can’t take misleading things, leave them to detective stories.
Of course, I’m also pretty embarrassed of myself for falling for the utterly poor move this was.24th December 2015, 13:54 at 1:54 pm #31078514th December 2015, 13:20 at 1:20 pm #310588
@fastiesty Haha, good to know we are on the same page. (Regarding judgement calls.)
As for Hamilton, since his recent admission to staying up late writing music, I wondered if he stayed up too late that night in Budapest. Previously, I thought that the (in)famously wild Budapest nightlife (I know I live there…) cost him too much, haha. I didn’t know the Martian had that big of an impact on him. (Certainly not something I would schedule for my pre-race programme.)
And I didn’t know that Irvine had a particular issue before the Nurburgring in 199 either so, again, good to know.12th December 2015, 15:30 at 3:30 pm #310525
@fastiesty Interesting, but I was never that much into F1Metrics – while I appreciate his entirely objective and dry-ish analytical standpoint with his models, I also think the models are simply not fitting the reality well enough. I think it’s worth striking more of a balance between data and common sense. It’s not that bad sticking the ‘personal viewpoint’ note to the end of an article – if it’s sensible and robust enough, people will see the truth in them anyway, they won’t care if it was based on hard or ‘soft’ data.12th December 2015, 15:23 at 3:23 pm #310524
@hunocsi Yeah, but he also had more or less very scrappy races, it’s just that those weren’t highlighted. Hungary was nearly as much of a mess as Vettel’s Mexico (less severe errors, but more of them), while he wasn’t that great in Silverstone either judging by his early race fails and tyre-destroying driving later on. (I always maintained that he basically benefited from a huge slice of luck with destroying his tyres completely by the exact moment the rain arrived.) It was comparable to Vettel’s Bahrain race.