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    I think the bigger issue is if teams like Ferrari and McLaren believe there is some sort of collusion between RBR and STR (or the potential for collusion) then it might encourage them to get some leverage with other teams.

    It’s been jokingly mentioned here but what if Ferrari bought into HRT? What if McLaren added to their technical partnership with Force India? What if either of them became major sponsors of Caterham or Marussia? The worry for me is that this will progress to a point where you’ll have Red Bull, Ferrari, McLaren and then the rest of the grid will be Red Bull B, Ferrari B, McLaren B, etc.

    Ferrari have already been talking about running a third car and whether or not STR help RBR on track, it can’t be a coincidence that, after RBR had pretty much wrapped up the titles last year, STR suddenly made massive progress with their exhaust/diffusor. It doesn’t sound far fetched at all for this to extend to everyone having B and C teams to get an advantage, if for no other reason then to cancel out the advantage that other teams have.

    #216137
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    @fluxocillin7 that’s interesting. I guess Red Bull could have an argument that the KERS needs to by cycled every so often for reliability reasons, which could be plausible based entirely off how often their system fails. In saying that it makes no sense to use it right before a green flag when it could be used for a performance advantage. Plus using it where he did let him get a run on Vergne for his infamous pass.

    #216133
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    @prisoner-monkeys sorry for the slow reply (thread’s moving fast). Thanks for the info about the Valencia penalties. As I mentioned in my original post I’m more interested in the possibility of Vettel using KERS before the green flag rather than the overtake, which I believe was most probably legal. I have no idea what the usual penalty is for this since I don’t remember anyone ever falling foul of it but if it’s anything like the Valencia ruling then the FIA could decide on a light punishment and give a lesser penalty.

    #216095
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    Thanks for the info on the 5s penalties @raymondu999 and @prisoner-monkeys . Do you know if those penalties were in place of a drive through penalty or if there’s a separate rule for speeding behind the safety car? I double checked and they were applied after the race so I thought it might be that they were in place of a drive through. If that’s the case then it’s a precedent for adding a time other than 20s in place of a drive through penalty which would give the FIA a convenient ‘out’ if they wanted to acknowledge the infringement but avoid changing the championship result.

    #216087
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    As much as I wanted Alonso to win the title, judging by what I’ve seen and read here I don’t think Vettel will get penalised for overtaking illegally. If flags overrule all other signals (light boards, in car lights, etc) and there’s clear video of a green flag being waved before Vettel makes the pass then it seems like it’s fine.

    The KERS usage before the marshal post (so still under yellow flag conditions) looks like it’s more of an issue if that’s against the rules. The image that Matt posted shows Vettel hasn’t yet reached the marshal post but the on screen telemetry shows that his KERS has been activated. I guess the on screen information could be wrong or slightly out of time with the picture although it’s usually pretty good when it comes to things like gear changes synchronising with the audio or DRS activation synchronising with the car passing the DRS sign. The telemetry should be pretty clear on this so it should be an easy thing for the FIA to rule on.

    I personally think that if they do decide he’s guilty of something they’ll give him a reprimand or penalty less than 20 seconds (hasn’t that been done before?)

    #211853
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    I’m pretty sure the ECU’s record the data so if the issue is only that the data is not being transmitted to the team then the stewards could just download it all after the race. They might not be able to make a decision during the race but recently they’ve been investigating lots of incidents after the race anyway so it wouldn’t make much of a difference.

    #209057
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    The fact that it has the parts of the lap where Hamilton is slower highlighted in red pen kind of makes me think it’s less to do with him giving his followers insight and more to do with his frustration at losing so much lap time to Button because of car setup.

    #199833
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    I get the reasoning behind trying to get a bigger audience by putting it on Ten to get the casual viewer but why do they have to take it off One? Surely they can run them at the same time. They own both channels so they’re not losing ratings.

    That would also solve the problem with the time difference in the western states. They could show it live in HD on One for the die hard fans and then replay it in SD on Ten in their Super Sunday line up for the casual viewers.

    The only issue I can see is that they might have to pay more to show it this way although before the switch they used to show it live on One and delayed on Ten so it’d be a straight swap.

    Also that comic is brilliant!

    #199251
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    That was pretty epic across the top of the mountain. He kept his foot in for a long time there.

    #194661
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    I came within seconds of ruining the most exciting race in years.

    I recorded the 2008 season final in Brazil because it starts at 3am here. I turned on the tv in the morning and the news was on at the sports section where they were doing the report on the race. I switched channels as fast as I could and was left really confused. The pictures showed Massa’s family celebrating but the reporter was saying “…youngest ever world champion…” which could only be Hamilton. Turns out they were showing the clip right before Massa’a dad realises Hamilton had won it.

    I guess I was lucky because I was so confused by the mixed messages I didn’t know who had won.

    #135392
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    Adrian Newey’s nose always passes the FIA load tests.

    Adrian Newey chose baldness to reduce drag.

    Adrian Newey’s design department is so efficient he keeps Helmut Marko around as ballast.

    #187480
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    I like the way the smallest present is from Marko and that Mark has to blow up Seb’s inflatable car himself. Plus the thought of Mark in his Red Bull PJ’s is pretty funny.

    #148473
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    Since the ban on refuelling Hamilton has forgotten how the whole process works.

    #148470
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    Ok it’s been a couple of days.

    The winner is @todfod by a whisker over @geemac. Very close but bonus points for the Helmut Marko reference. In case I ever win again and post a picture, regardless of the content (could be Bernie falling down stairs), you’ll get bonus marks for bagging Skid Marko.

    #184542
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    I don’t mind DRS. I think it’s a shame that we didn’t get a year with the Pirelli’s but without DRS so we could see how much each influences overtaking on their own.

    In Korea Webber couldn’t get past Hamilton mainly because the McLaren had such good drive out of the slow corners before the DRS zones. Lewis could build up enough of a gap in the first half of the straight so that when Mark opened the wing he’d only be cancelling out Hamilton’s initial advantage. They were on tyres that were a similar age so it was more to do with the characteristics of the car but similar cars on different age tyres would have a similar effect so without DRS the car on newer tyres would have powered past. It would have been interesting to see a year without DRS to truly know Pirelli’s benefit to racing.

    That being said, I do think DRS is making the racing more interesting, especially on circuits where they got the DRS zones right. I was genuinely excited about DRS after the Australian GP because the short start finish straight meant that passing wasn’t inevitable. The scrap between Button and Massa in that race was brought about because the DRS let Button get close but not fly past easily. He still needed to get the job done under braking or in a corner, just as he would have without DRS.

    The FIA have all the data from this season so they should be able to adjust the DRS zones for next year. If it was up to me I’d be trying to replicate what we had in Australia. Bringing the cars closer together very rarely getting the job done before the braking zone. It’s not the ideal system but I think the racing is better than if we didn’t have it.

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