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  • #302210
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    We actually have a very similar rule in AFL football in australia, where current players and coaches are not allowed to publicly criticise umpires (referees) and their on ground decisions. There have many incidents when the wrong call has been made that affected the outcome of a game and players and coaches just have to suck it up. On hte flip side, past-players and coaches quickly jump all over the umpires… Has it worked for AFL? imo I don’t think it has, as fans are still unhappy about bad decisions, regardless if their players/coaches can’t comment, the commentators constantly ridicule the AFL governing body about it, and raise it often as a negative each time they get a “no comment” or “can’t comment” response from a player/coach. It just doesn’t make sense to me.

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    Wendlinger showed huge potential, he was one of the trio of Mercedes Sports car drivers in the team with H-H Frentzen and M. Schumacher. Frentzen was always considered the fastest of the 3 in sportscars, but I think he had the equipment in 1997 to show it, but never delivered. Wendlinger had a massive accident in 94 in Monaco that left him in an induced coma for a week and was never as fast after.

    Wurz is another that comes to mind, couldn’t get a break at the right time.

    Ronnie Peterson was a tragic loss, some said he could have gone on to bigger things, but succumbed to his injuries after a start line accident in Monza.

    I agree with what people are saying about Kubica, he was definitely up there.

    Problem with F1, as Senna has stated is it is more to do with politics/money than it is to do with racing. Unless your talent supersedes all of that, you need to be good off the track as well as on the track. Alot of the drivers we are talking about had unlucky/untimely accidents, or they found themselves competing with drivers that turn up cash in hand and a fistful of political clout.

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    Simple is stunning…

    #302040
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    BMW SauberF1 :)

    #301485
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    @fastiesty Can’t say that I’ve played iRacing, perhaps I should look into it. I speak obviously of the games that I play and from what I’ve heard about. As for a run down, I’ve mainly played on console for years, so the likes of the Forza series on xbox, GT series on PS, F1 20xx series on Xbox, I’ve dabbled with some pc games, but i need a steering wheel/pedal set for the PC. Although, I think I’ll be getting one near the end of the year.

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    Looking at the video @fastiesty uploaded, I think that the understeer aspect is improving. That tight right hander before the final left right in Mexico looks very challenging and that Williams looked like it didn’t want to turn in at all, on the final lap he even attempted a slower entry but got swamped by the field, so I think the balance is looking better.
    My biggest issue with these games is that understeer in games doesn’t translate too well. When I drive at track days I hate understeer, because I not only drift wide, but on certain corners I end up with chattering, where the suspension is fully compressing and then fully unloading and repeating, I’ve never seen a racing game do the chattering effect well. I am involved at a very distant level in local racing in Australia and can confirm that chattering does happen in lower formula (formula ford/karting/formula holden), so I presume it happens in F1 cars as well.

    #300170
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    I’ve learned 2 things from this thread, F1 isn’t all roses and in some small way we grow up loving a sport that at some point involves tradgedy. Secondly, I have learnt that @keithcollantine is younger than me :P

    @ben-n that footage of the old stadium section filled to the brim with F1 fans, and the old empty forest of the Hockenheimring is exactly what we are missing in F1 today, imagine that level of crowd noise with this years cars, it would be spine chilling

    #300136
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    While I get your premise, I think F1 as a concept is that every race is a focal point. The glitz and glamour of Monaco, the sunny lake side drive of Albert Park, the Island get away of Canada, the Shanghai smog, and the Oil money of Abu Dhabi are all focal points on the F1 calendar.

    Although, I think the problem with running F1 cars longer than nearly 2 hours like they run today, is that they just aren’t built to run for long distances, they’ll fall apart.

    #300135
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    I have never shed a tear during a race, however, I must admit, I had a few sniffels watching the Senna documentary… And, I must also concede that everytime I watch Imola ’94, I choke up a little, every single time. Its just so tragic and I adored Senna as a kid growing up in the 80’s, even if I wasn’t an f1 junkie like I became in the 90’s until now.

    Just not to leave on a downer, some of the happiest moments where I was jumping up and down with excitement, Schumacher’s 1st win in Belgium 1991, Schumi’s Championship win in Adelaide ’94, then his 16th to 1st drive in 1995 in Spa, and then in 1996 his victory in Spain, the first for Ferrari. There are other memories too, but all my positives centre around Schumi in the mid-90’s, sure everyone remembers him for his Ferrari domination in early 00’s, but it was the mid-90’s that are my greatest memories of the great man.

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    #299524
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    @tom-l I was thinking about whether or not to include him in the list, but I think there are so many F1F’s on this site that only started following F1 in the last 10 years, that non-english world champions like Piquet and Jones just are somewhat unknown in this community. As for some of us older gentlemen, well, lets just say, we have fond memories :P

    #299381
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    Ok, I’ve starting compilling a very comprehensive list of drivers from 1990-2015, I’ve completed up to 1994 tonight. I’ve discovered some very rare names indeed. Some of these guys have only sat in the seat for 1 race, some didn’t even qualify back in the good old days when there was pre-qualifying.

    Country/Driver
    ITA Bruno Giacomelli 1990
    ITA Claudio Langes 1990
    ITA Enrico Bertaggia 1992
    BEL Eric van de Poele 1991-1992
    ITA Gabriele Tarquini 1990-1992
    AUS Gary Brabham 1990
    ITA Giovanna Amati 1992
    SWI Gregor Foitek 1990
    JPN Hideki Noda 1994
    NED Jan Lamers 1992
    GER Michael Bartels 1991
    JPN Naoki Hattori 1991
    BRA Nelson Piquet 1990-1991
    MCO Olivier Beretta 1994
    FRA Olivier Grouillard 1990-1992
    GBR Perry McCarthy 1992
    JPN Satoru Nakajima 1990-1991
    SWE Stefan Johansson 1990-1991
    JPN Toshio Suzuki 1993-1994
    FRA Yannick Dalmas 1990&1994

    #299371
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    @s162000:

    Don’t know if it’s definitive but there’s a list on Wikipedia: link

    For those too lazy to search for the list in wiki as posted by Scott, below is the list from wiki.

    Full list of victims:
    Alexander Wurz, two-time winner of the Le Mans 24 Hours, in 1997.
    Damon Hill, 1996 F1 World Champion, in 1999.
    Michael Schumacher, 7 time F1 World Champion, in 1999.
    Jacques Villeneuve, 1997 F1 World Champion, in 1997 and 1999.
    Ricardo Zonta, 1998 FIA GT sports car Champion, in 1999.
    Nico Rosberg, 2005 GP2 Champion.
    Nick Heidfeld, 1999 International Formula 3000 Champion, in 2001.
    Rubens Barrichello, 1991 British Formula Three Champion in 2002.
    Jenson Button, 2009 F1 World Champion, in 2005.
    Tiago Monteiro, in 2006.
    Juan Pablo Montoya, 1999 CART Champion, in 2006.
    Vitantonio Liuzzi, 2004 International Formula 3000 Champion, in 2007.
    Kamui Kobayashi, 2008-09 GP2 Asia Series Champion, in 2010.
    Sebastian Vettel, 4 time F1 World Champion, in 2011.
    Bruno Senna, nephew of 3 time World Champion Ayrton Senna, in 2012.
    Pastor Maldonado, 2010 GP2 Series Champion, in 2012.

    @s162000:

    Suprised to see Maldonado on there…

    I’m surprised he’s only on there once ;)

    #299369
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    @david-a lol, way to spoil a good thread with a definitive video piece :P

    #299367
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    Instead of using text, can you replace the point on the line with a mini F1 car icon, red for ferrari, purple for RBR, grey for the rest of the field and then mouse over to find out who it is & their time on a “on hover” event?

    EDIT: or even driver helmet icons would be good :)

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