From Lee McKenzie on Twitter:
“For F1 people wondering about the wonderful Kaz from Fuji TV, he has emailed me back safe and well ‘house a bit messy'”
Those arguing against the 107% are, of course, entirely right:
I see where Hare’s going with his idea but I have a couple of reservations.
As I said in my second comment the purpose here is “to build up an accurate picture of how much real, on-track overtaking goes on in a race.”
So what we’re looking for is what Hare calls a “Type C” pass – ‘proper’ on-track overtaking.
I think defining four different types of pass and attempting to count all those up is going to make this a lot more complicated.
At the very least, let’s start off with the more conservative aim of identifying all the ‘Type C’ passes in each race.
Then, if that’s proving very quick and easy, we can expand the analysis and include the many other forms of position change that Hare’s idea would include.
Based on your responses I’d suggest defining a ‘pass’ as being a change of position which:
* Does not take place on the first lap
* Does not happen because one of the cars involved has pitted
* Does not happen because one of the cars has gone off the track
* Is not immediately followed by a ‘re-pass’
I think we should filter out first lap passes because the standing start means everyone has a better chance of overtaking the car in front. By the end of the first lap the field has generally strung out and that’s when we find out if ‘real overtaking’ is possible.
My proposal is we start off by analysing and deciding what counts as a real pass by these terms. Once we’ve got that process running smoothly we can look at expanding it along the lines Hare suggests.
Ned would you like to write a “Why You Should Watch…” on the WRC? We’ve not had one yet…
I think some very good and considered points have been made so far. Perhaps a bit of a steer is needed on why we’re doing this.
The answer is, to build up an accurate picture of how much real, on-track overtaking goes on in a race.
That’s why I think first-lap passes and passes in the pits are irrelevant and we shouldn’t count them.
On first-lap passes, consider the example of Vettel’s start at Silverstone last year. If we count first-lap passes, his mistake creates 23 overtaking moves. That’s a massive statistical anomaly when it comes to getting an idea of how mu ‘real’ passing took place.
So, on re-passes, how many overtaking moves did we see between Hamilton and Petrov at Malaysia last year?
Bahrain and Europe were least popular last year:
I wonder if they might retro-actively make it the first round of the GP2 series proper? Easiest, cheapest solution…
As of now I’ve made a change which will stop it working, I’ll let you know when it’s working again.
the e-mail should have something written along that’s saying it’s from this website.
It will do, just checking it works at the moment.
Fascinating insight LAK, thank you so much for that.
Glad to hear you’ve not been caught up in it as well I was a bit concerned!
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