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    Did Vettel need to be outside of the top 3 in the championship standings to be able to exit Red Bull?

    If so, he must have known as far ago as Bahrain/China that DR needed to out-perform him in order for him to exit Red Bull (at the time, Alonso was still tied to Ferrari). I don’t think Vettel has that kind of foresight.

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    Remember Alonso at Singapore 2009? The Renault R29 was a proper soapbox of a car, it finished 8th in the WCC that year. Alonso dragged that donkey to the podium, and it was worse than any car Hulkenberg has drove in his career.

    Hamilton, despite of what happened after the race, was masterful at Australia 2009. The early version of the MP4/24 was 2 seconds off the pace, and he drove that thing from 20th to 3rd.

    Nico Rosberg with Williams in 2008 got a pair of podiums in a car which was at least as bad as the 2010 Williams and 2013 Sauber, and likely worse than the Force India’s from 2012 and 2014.

    Hulkenberg has been in F1 for 4 years now and has yet to score a single podium despite driving many solid midfield cars. A really special talent like Alonso or Hamilton would have had at least a couple of podiums already if they were driving his cars, I have no doubt about it.

    Hell, even drivers like Giancarlo Fisichella (with Jordan & Benetton), Ralf Schumacher (with Jordan & Williams-Mechachrome), and Rubens Barrichello (with Jordan & Stewart) were often able to get brilliant results and podiums out of midfield cars. Later, all of them turned out to be average, solid but unspectacular. Hulk hasn’t shown me anything to suggest that he is any better than a Fisi/Ralf/Rubens caliber driver.

    I’d also say that Perez has impressed me more this season, despite of what the final scorecard says. Checo had a lot of bad luck in this season. Brake failure in Canada cost him a 2nd place or maybe even better (18 points), had a 50/50 collision with Button in Monaco (8 points) and never even got to start in Malaysia (Hulk scored 10 that race). Luck-adjusted they have been fairly equal, or Perez maybe even slightly ahead.

    #287914
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    I don’t understand all the hype around Hulkenberg tbh.

    I mean, he’s spend 4 years in F1 this season and still is podiumless. Certainly, his car has been more than once capable of a podium (Brazil 2012, Bahrain 2014) and he either blew it with a crash, or got beat by his own teammate.

    Nick Heidfeld 2.0

    #287909
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    1. Fernando Alonso
    Destroyed Raikkonen like no one even thought was humanly possible, 16-3 in qualifying and races. Nearly had a miracle win in Hungary in a donkey of a car. Finished very close in the final points tally to Vettel and Bottas despite having way worse machinery than either of them. Didn’t make a significant mistake all season long. I have no idea how someone moderately objective can rate the likes of Rosberg and Button ahead of him IMO. 2 WDC and 32 wins simply don’t do his talent justice. 10/10

    2. Daniel Ricciardo
    THE surprise of the season. Convincingly beat Vettel and was the most frequent challenger of the Mercedes duo. Took optimum advantage of whenever Rosberg or Hamilton hit trouble in Canada, Hungary, and Belgium. His qualifying and wet-weather driving could use a little improvement, but in the races he’s been Alonso-like. Masterful at overtaking and very good at taking care of his tyres. 9.5/10

    3. Lewis Hamilton
    A very well deserving champion. The first non-German driver to win 11 races, and did it despite driving against a way stronger teammate than Barrichello or Webber. He has been inconsistent in qualifying, but in the races beyond brilliant. His only mistake on Sunday was the spin in Brazil. He’s had some epic drives this year like Bahrain, Hungary, and Japan. 9/10

    4. Valtteri Bottas
    Started of the season a little slow, but Austria-onward he really got going. 6 podiums in the 3rd best car is a good achievement overall. He split the Red Bulls this season in a slightly weaker car overall. Had some excellent drives in this season, like Australia, Germany, and Monza. Silverstone however, is the real highlight of his season. He was epic on that day.

    5. Nico Rosberg
    His qualifying has been beyond phenomenal this season. 12-7 against the supposed fastest man over a single lap. He struggled a little early on in the wet qualifying sessions, but ever since Monaco, he took 10 poles to Lewis’s 3. His race performances have been more hit-or-miss. Occasionally very good (Canada, Austria, Brazil) but often also underwhelming (Malaysia, China, Belgium).

    The rest;

    6. Jenson Button
    7. Nico Hulkenberg
    8. Romain Grosjean
    9. Sebastian Vettel
    10. Jules Bianchi
    11. Jean-Eric Vergne
    12. Sergio Perez
    13. Felipe Massa
    14. Kimi Raikkonen
    15. Kamui Kobayashi
    16. Daniil Kvyat
    17. Kevin Magnussen
    18. Pastor Maldonado
    19. Adrian Sutil
    20. Marcus Ericsson
    21. Esteban Gutierrez
    22. Max Chilton

    #285284
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    Vettel on Raikkonen around the Ferradura (turn 6).

    #284338
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    The cars are already faster than the pole time of Interlagos in 2012, and it’s still only FP2.

    In FP2 in 2012, Hamilton was 2 seconds slower than Rosberg is now.

    http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/11/23/2012-brazilian-grand-prix-practice-result-fp2/

    #279484
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    So they add a chicane to what is already the longest pitlane on the calendar? Ironic, because the circuit is actually one of the shortest.

    The pitlane is almost half the track. :O

    #279359
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    1 – Split the revenue among the teams up much more evenly.
    2 – Get rid of Abu Double.
    3 – Only use DRS on circuits which need it most.

    #278433
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    The top 5 (Clark, Steward, Alonso, Schumacher & Fangio) is fairly accurate.

    The rankings of Rosberg, Senna, and Prost however – are absurd.

    #275137
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    2003
    – 8 different winners from 5 different teams.
    – No DRS or artificial tyres to help the racing.
    – A classic title scrap between the three most iconic teams – Ferrari, Williams, and McLaren.
    – A brilliant WDC fight between Schumacher, Raikkonen, and Montoya.
    – A lot of great races (Australia, Brazil, Austria, Nurburgring, Silverstone, Indianapolis, Japan).
    – Just about every team had their own unique livery.
    – Some old vintage teams (Minardi, Jordan, Jaguar, BAR Honda, Renault, and Toyota).
    – The rise of Raikkonen, Alonso, Button, and Webber.

    #274894
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    As an Alonso fan, I would love to see Vettel become his teammate.

    Preferably in a tail-happy car which is very difficult to drive.

    #273990
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    Teams to fold: Caterham, Marussia, and Sauber.

    Mercedes
    Hamilton
    Rosberg
    Alonso

    Red Bull
    Ricciardo
    Vettel
    Vergne

    Williams
    Bottas
    Massa
    Nasr

    Ferrari
    Raikkonen
    Hulkenberg
    Bianchi

    McLaren
    Button
    Magnussen
    Vandoorne

    Toro Rosso
    Kvyat
    Verstappen
    Sainz

    Force India
    Perez
    Palmer
    Frijns

    Lotus
    Grosjean
    Maldonado
    Van der Garde

    #273985
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    Ricciardo on Vettel for me. Brilliant dummy.

    #273030
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    I’ve only been watching since 2002 so I won’t be picking any teams before that.

    Toyota
    Jordan
    Minardi
    BAR-Honda
    Jaguar
    Arrows

    #272727
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    Either the F2007 or F2008, I loved the cherry-red Ferrari’s. Both were stunningly beautiful and fast.

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