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8th January 2011, 14:00 at 2:00 pm #139398
Relax i was just being humorous.
BTW where is Asanator? We need a question.6th January 2011, 17:39 at 5:39 pm #139396
You can say that but my original question is phrased cleverly enough to cover that so you can’t hit me back with it. Muhahahaha(evil laugh)!6th January 2011, 15:44 at 3:44 pm #139394
Finally someone found it. I was starting to think it wouldn’t be found. I’m quite surprised it took so long because i thought it was very easy considering it was about only one year and the year we just had at that.
Glock had engine trouble and couldn’t even start the warm-up lap. He was supposed to start from the pit lane but never made it out of the pit garage. Di Grassi was supposed to start from the pit lane too but he indeed had a clutch problem that wasn’t solved by the start of the race. In the end Di Grassi went out later on the race for a few laps but the clutch problem wasn’t solve so he returned to the pits.
You turn Asanator.5th January 2011, 18:34 at 6:34 pm #139388
Well here is what happened. The cars weren’t in the warm-up lap ether, they were completely vanished and the race started with them nowhere to be seen. By watching the race they never really seem to appear anywhere at all. But i got curious when i discovered the phenomenon and i searched the events. It seems that at some point and after the other drivers were racing for a while and many of them even made pit-stops, one of the two cars went out on the track made a few laps and then returned back to it’s garage. Now i don’t know if those laps are even considered as part of the race, i don’t know what the rules are about that but if they count then you can say that at least one of them raced for a little.
I guess now this must have helped to find it more easily.5th January 2011, 16:28 at 4:28 pm #139386
polishboy808, yes it did happen. It just went completely unnoticed by everyone. That’s why i thought it would make an interesting question. I didn’t notice it ether when i was first watching the GP. I noticed later when i tripped on it while searching for something else.
And for people with questions. I’m not talking about stalling at the start or starting from the pit lane. I’m talking about the cars not even being at the start line, nether being at the pit exit when the race started. Generally the cars were nowhere to be seen.5th January 2011, 11:20 at 11:20 am #139382
Last year we had 12 teams and 24 cars. At one GP though only 22 cars and 11 teams left the starting line in lap1 including starting from the pit lane.
What GP was that and what team was missing?3rd January 2011, 21:53 at 9:53 pm #139379
End of 1994,test in Estoril. M.Schumacher in a Ligier JS39B.3rd January 2011, 17:32 at 5:32 pm #139377
Jihelle got it all right, it was indeed Johnny Herbert in the 1995 Spanish GP with Benetton and Steve Matchett was the man. The whole incident even made Murray Walker say one of his memorable lines which was: “I’ve seen a six wheel Tyrell, i’ve seen a six wheel Williams, i’ve seen a six wheel March but i have never seen a six wheel Benetton before”.
@Dan Thorn-Maybe we should be more clear in this matters because when you ask “in what lap did that happen?” naturally many people will assume in what lap of the race instead of what lap was for the driver.
For example if i ask in what lap a Virgin crashed what lap will i give if the Virgin was three laps behind? The race lap or the laps that the Virgin driver made.
Anyway on his way to the pits he probably cross the line too so he was on his 7th lap when he pitted but maybe not when he turn in.
In a way both answers are right and wrong.31st December 2010, 21:45 at 9:45 pm #139370
Ok then. Don’t know if this is hard or easy but i had a good laugh with it so here is the question.
What driver at what GP in what year left the pits with the jack attached to the back of his car because the mechanic didn’t manage to remove it in time? The jack was fortunately detached while he was entering the track ending up in the grass nearby.
Bonus if you know the mechanic too.31st December 2010, 19:46 at 7:46 pm #13936731st December 2010, 12:19 at 12:19 pm #139363
I think it was lap 7 not 6.31st December 2010, 11:54 at 11:54 am #157069
That will be a nice late Christmas present indeed Geemac. Do the teams have a stock of old Goodyear tyres?
For little bit of an answer to your argument about taking corners in 1993, look at this two small videos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw_YmEHgrBE(first we see the corner with Prost-Senna and then Schumacher)
And then this, showing Eau Rouge at Spa.
@Bleu, unfortunately this years Qualifying in Brazil doesn’t count as it was wet. And to add to our misery the track in 1993 was kind of moist during the race so not a good indicator ether. The faster lap was made by Schumacher with 1’20.024 while Heikki Kovalainen with a Lotus that wasn’t exactly the best of the field made a personal faster lap of 1.17.161 this year.
But todays cars must be faster since in 1992 i think it was dry and the best lap was made by Riccardo Patrese with a Williams W14B and it was 1’19.490. If we assume that FW15C was about 1.5-2second faster than it’s predecessor then if the track was dry in 1993 a 1.17.something could have been possible.
The track at 1993 was 4325 m. How much is it now?
Of course at those days the Brazilian GP was at the start of the year instead of the end, so today’s cars have the advantage of their mechanics knowing better how to set them up and have all the time earned threw the development of the year on them.30th December 2010, 0:04 at 12:04 am #157065
You are absolutely right. Sorry for that. It was 1993 and the car should be FW15C instead of FW14B. The idea of comparing the old car with the new ones just came to my head and i jumped on it in a haste. I have no idea why i had in my mind 1992 at the time because i knew it was 1993 since i saw that year and ironically it was one of my favorites because of Senna’s achievements with that low power Mclaren, sometimes our mind plays weird tricks on us.
Anyway on topic, you put comparisons with the Hungarian GP and Canada. How unchanged are those tracks? I really don’t remember all the little changes tracks had threw the years.
How can he be 4 seconds faster at one and then 4 seconds slower at another? That must be because of the track difference threw the years.
So that still leaves us with the question if a 1993 Williams could stand against today’s cars.
What you said about tyres is very interesting. Do you assume that if that Williams had tyres with the same chemical substance as the 2010 Bridgestones it could be 4-5 seconds faster that what it was in 1993?
I realize that is hard to have a 100% correct estimation but that’s why i made the thread. I want to see if along with other peoples knowledge we could come to a good conclusion on what the performance of that 1993 Williams could be in comparison with modern F1 cars.18th November 2010, 10:58 at 10:58 am #151506
The race at Bahrain this year. I was so excited that the year was gonna start i was jumping up and down like a 5 year old before the race started and yet that race managed to make me half asleep by the end of it.
And imagine none other race this year(even some that weren’t very exciting) made me come close to sleeping as much as that one.
It was one of the most boring races in a last few years.17th November 2010, 16:34 at 4:34 pm #151360
….a guy tells you his a Schumi fan and that he started watching during the Ferrari years and you think his an F1 rookie.
… you see old F1 videos in F1 fanatic and you actually remember the incident.
…you try to explain to that young guy who thinks Monaco is boring why it is important to keep it by telling him stories from when Senna was closing on Prost in the wet Monaco of 1984 with that TG184 Toleman, or when Mansel was stuck behind Senna those 3 last laps and even when Panis won it in a Ligier when there weren’t even enough cars left on the race for the first 6 places.
…you see J.Alesi in the Ferrari garage and you are the only one who makes the connection or even worse knows who he is.
…you hear the name Rosberg and you think of a guy with a mustache instead of Britney Spears.