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10th October 2014, 7:46 at 7:46 am #278009
Personally I think it’s great those articles were not ran after last weekend.
For example, if Ferrari’s points streak would have ended in any other race, a lot more people would have commented on it and a much bigger deal would have been made of it. Yet, with Bianchi’s accident, it’s rendered a moot point. Much like, in my mind, who was the best driver of the race or how good the race was.
Both comment sections typically have heated discussions about why people rate a race/driver the way they do and I can only see trouble if people would vote Bianchi for driver of the weekend or would vote the race a 1 because of the accident, or a 8 because of the actual running, ignoring the accident. It would no doubt result in a discussion that would be unpretty.5th October 2014, 22:59 at 10:59 pm #277286
Really sad to hear this. Andrea was one of the first drivers before my time I researched because I had a model car he drove. RIP Andrea..5th October 2014, 22:58 at 10:58 pm #277285
The first race I watched was Jerez 1997, but I don’t remember it at all. I do remember getting up early for the 1998 Australian GP and being disappointed when Schumacher retired due to an engine failure, which I’ve always considered an indication the Jerez incident made me a Schumacher fan, somehow.4th October 2014, 11:49 at 11:49 am #276868
Let’s get silly:
Carlos Sainz Jr.
Telmex F1 (the team formerly known as Sauber)
Forza Rossa (the team formerly known as Caterham)
Jenson Button joins the BBC commentary team, Massa makes way for Nasr to race in Brazilian Stockcars, Sutil is ditched as Sauber is sold to Carlos Slim jr., Caterham manages to hire even less inspiring drivers than before.28th September 2014, 16:13 at 4:13 pm #276208
Pretty good weekend for Sainz, even if Mehri is still technically in contention. Was anything revealed on Gasly’s poor opening laps?
I have to say, this was the first time I found a BT Sport stream and I was quite impressed with your commentary, Keith. Race wasn’t too exciting for the most part, but you and Jonny Mowlem managed to keep me engaged for the full race. Nice job!25th September 2014, 1:17 at 1:17 am #276008
Saw this clip for the first time a few years ago accidentally in a playlist named after the commentator.
He makes a very valid point; you might be an Italian full of passion, but what Nannini did there is utterly ridiculous. I’ve done it a ton of times on games, but that puts exactly 0 people and 0 money at stake, who knows what could have happened at a shoddy street circuit like that, or if he had lost control in that busy pit lane.
Of course, the comments imply he is a real man. I’ll take the ‘whimps’ who don’t endanger other drivers, thank you very much..24th September 2014, 9:06 at 9:06 am #275964
I think there’s 2 reasons people are rather critical of Button, coming from my own observations.
The main reason would probably be the idea he isn’t as naturally gifted as what is often called the top tier of Vettel/Hamilton/Alonso (sometimes including Raikkonen). While that didn’t stop people from adoring Mark Webber, Jenson’s title coming from a dominant car has somewhat skewed people’s views; ‘if he’s not as amazing as Hamilton etc. and had a dominant car, it must have been the car’. Of course, with McLaren’s recent poor form (as well as him struggling with the 2012 car’s set up), people are easy to forget his performances in 2004, 2006, 2012 and 2010.
For some of the people who were following F1 in the early 2000’s, their perception of Jenson might have been warped long before. I remember a lot of non-UK F1 fans being rather annoyed with the way the UK motorsports media idolized him in his early years, leading to some people thinking of him as hyped. I also remember a lot of publications saying he was a ‘playboy’, spending more time partying than working on his craft. Stellar performances like his 2004 German GP were often overlooked, his win was lucky, until he won that title. Now, I see some of the same people give him a hard time again. Though I have to say, the poor years of 2007 and 2008 didn’t help his general standing with fans, as people were generally also thinking Rubens’ career was over..
Personally, I was one of those who gave him a hard time before, but he won me over, over time. Still, I’d rate him just below Vettel/Alonso/Hamilton and Raikkonen. Though it is hard to say how much of his speed is lost, since he has had poor cars for 2 years now.20th September 2014, 0:34 at 12:34 am #275252
Hard to say..
1998 was my first full season, with a great comeback from Ferrari/Schumacher after being miles behind the McLaren at the start of the season. It cemented the Ferrari/McLaren rivalry as the classic title battle in my mind. Plus, it had plenty of mad races/sessions, like Spa 1998 and the Austrian GP qualifying. Not to mention some classic liveries..
2003 was a great season, as there just was a lot going on between teams, as far as the championship goes and it was a massive difference compared to 2002 and 2004..
2007, 2008 and 2010 would be my honorable mentions, great seasons all together, but ultimately the racing wasn’t always all that during those years.
2012 is probably one of the most dramatic seasons I remember, from intrigue to battling team mates, teams, team orders, reliability concerns, driver errors and heartbreak, it was the first time since 1998 I ever felt empty after the final race of the season.
Despite the off-track politics, I’d say 2014 so far is coming pretty close to 2012, too.18th September 2014, 23:06 at 11:06 pm #275005
For as long as I have been watching Formula One (1998) I have heard people talk ill of Bernie. Once I started investigating on what he did for the sport, I came across many clever tactics and a lot of good for the sake of the sport and his wallet.
However, his business model is outdated. The financial aspects are no longer realistic, as the poorest teams are left out to dry, while we no longer have the Andrea Moda/Simtek like teams which Bernie wanted to get rid of in the 90s. Ferrari gets a lot of money for being Ferrari; another illogical and outdated idea. On the other hand, there’s his influence on the rules and the FIA’s regulation of F1 in general. Frankly, in the 80s and perhaps the early 90s, the sport was still growing and having someone who wants to monetize the sport having an influence made sense. However, F1 has grown a lot and right now, his ideas are not those of the fans, who are more in number and more in financial influence. From double points to selling F1 as a subscription on top of regular TV subscriptions, his ideas might make sense for the money, but no longer for the sport.
There’s a reason why, in business, the original entrepreneurs leave the daily reigns of a business to more qualified people; at some point you’re done innovating and you’re moving the business or product away from the consumer’s needs. Frankly, I think both the FIA and Bernie have forgotten that it is not the sponsors who are the consumers of the sport; it’s the fans. While you could argue they matter less, I’d still point to Korea and India, as well as Turkey, as a sign that attendance numbers still matter for the tracks.
Ideally FOM or CVC would have had someone running along with Bernie for years now. But, I’m getting the idea Bernie literally lives for F1 now. It is not uncommon for people his age to stop working or any other activity and rapidly see their health decrease. I think they’re putting off a definitive end, because they don’t have a replacement, nor do they want to give Bernie the idea they have a replacement ready.
The recent news on the teams talking to Charlie Whiting about the radio rules and having them relaxed goes to show how messed up F1 is: the commercial rights holder suggests something to the rulemakers, they implement it, suddenly, the ones who have to follow the rules protest.
Bernie, FOM, CVC, the FIA and the teams have shown time and time again to be completely unable to reflect on past changes, how other series deal with rules or commercial rights or even simply consider the wider consequences. It’s not Bernie that’s bad, it’s the entire F1 institution.
The racing might be great this year, but as far as respect for these institutions go, I’m having a terrible year..17th September 2014, 22:31 at 10:31 pm #274891
Vettel and Alonso rumors in recent years have been utterly wrong so far, I can’t see the same repeats suddenly being true.
Let’s not forget we have had rumors of Alonso going to Red Bull, McLaren, Mercedes and Lotus in the past 14 months. Meanwhile Vettel has been rumored for the same Mercedes and McLaren seats and Alonso’s Ferrari seat, of which the Ferrari rumors are about as old as his first world title.
At this point, it’s going to take an actual signing of either at any team for me to believe any of the rumors surrounding either driver…10th September 2014, 22:10 at 10:10 pm #274228
Lawrence Stroll is a Ferrari enthusiast, though. He might be willing to provide some funding for a Ferrari-backed team in his name, regardless of what his son does.
It sure seems more likely than the Russians actually paying up at this point.10th September 2014, 9:26 at 9:26 am #274165
Worth to note Adam Parr said several and not all teams running 3 cars.
This would leave 21 cars, enough for Haas to enter in 2016.7th September 2014, 0:41 at 12:41 am #273777
I think it’s a bit of a luxury problem that GP2 has; some of their rank went through the field in a few years and managed to prove their worth in F1 quite fast as well. F1 teams like to play it safe, so whenever someone seems like a mega talent, they sign them. F1 teams do seem to view GP2 this way moreso than FR3.5, since Da Costa was given the time to prove he wasn’t all-amazing-all-of-the-time, while Magnussen had a mediocre 2012 but killed it in 2013 and was signed to McLaren no less, although he was already affiliated with them.
The GP2 champions who came through the ranks quickly often had some sort of deal with an F1 team as well, Rosberg and Hulkenberg with Williams, Hamilton with McLaren, Grosjean with Renault/Boullier. Alternatively, Frijns had no connections with F1 teams and has nothing to show for winning the FR3.5 title in his first season, much like Leimer for his title in his umpteenth year in GP2.
In the end, it seems it doesn’t really matter if you win the championship, it’s the connections you have. Which is why Vandoorne and Nasr are more likely to end up in F1 than Palmer, regardless of who wins the title..6th September 2014, 11:33 at 11:33 am #273628
So far we have arguments from the ‘hypocrite’ Westerners and counter arguments that pretty much go ‘but other countries do the same!’.
What do we do then? Sit in apathy? How do you think civil rights came about? The working class never stormed into a castle in the dark ages and said ‘we want the right to free speech on the internet!’. Things are taken once at a time. Have you considered that maybe, if something is achieved in Russia, that a next controversy might come along and people will try to fight that? Don’t you think, at some point, other countries will also face political action because their policies do not align with the views of the world?
And @himmatsj, thank you for proving Godwin’s law. Just because the Germans supported him at the time, doesn’t mean the morality of his actions are any less messed up. We look back in disgust at black slaves, but the people at that time didn’t really care. We look back now and see the Romans didn’t mind throwing Christians to the lions, but the fact the Romans loved the entertainment doesn’t make it any less appalling.
Again, I find it amazing that people from countries with a low freedom of press go on and on about how Western media is the same. If you would just compare the New York Times with the Huffington Post, there’s a world of difference. See what is said about the same stories in The Sun or in The Telegraph and suddenly there’s other angles. Buy Der Spiegel and suddenly you’re actually reading journalism. The Western media isn’t some monolithic singularity.
Frankly, only few voices come from the rest of the world that actually defend the GP in Russia, but instead try to offer their ‘insight’ in the West.
@himmatsj As a Malaysian, would it make you feel better if I also disliked the way your government treats people that aren’t Muslim? How your government has banned concerts because they do not align with their views?6th September 2014, 11:20 at 11:20 am #273624
All this talk from Button about how he ‘would love to still be in F1 next year’ do strike me as a means of saying that Ron Dennis is looking to replace him, but keeps him on hand in case Vettel doesn’t want to join. Of course, none of this would have been addressed as directly by Ron Dennis..